by Leaping Lindner » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:51 pm
by McAlmanac » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:48 am
by am Bays » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:32 am
by Leaping Lindner » Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:32 am
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:1980 you can chuck in Mark Williams and Jeff Sauru (West Torrens) IIRC from the Footabll Times year book, eight players went over in 1980.....
by Magpiespower » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:11 pm
by am Bays » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:32 pm
Leaping Lindner wrote:1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:1980 you can chuck in Mark Williams and Jeff Sauru (West Torrens) IIRC from the Footabll Times year book, eight players went over in 1980.....
Williams was still at Port in 1980 and Sarau came from the VFL (and much later - IIRC 1985) . You not thinking of 1981
maybe?
by Adelaide Hawk » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:41 pm
by spell_check » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:43 pm
by biscuit » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:39 pm
by Adelaide Hawk » Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:52 am
biscuit wrote:I read recently that the VFL Grand final Record of 1976 stated that only 7 South Australians were playing in the VFL that year.
Considering that by the late 1990's well over 100 South Australians were on AFL playing lists, it reiterates just how many of our best footballers chose to play their football in the SANFL until the late 1970's - early 1980's.
Makes it all the more of a pity that the AFL are doing their best to promote the popular belief that elite footballers only ever competed in the VFL-AFL. Surely they have to make more of an effort to recognise the football heritage of the SANFL and WAFL.
by biscuit » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:25 pm
by Adelaide Hawk » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:56 pm
biscuit wrote:If the AFL don't lay the groundrules, we can't expect the media to follow - Victorian or otherwise. The likes of Robran will be subjected to a lack of recognition nationally unless the AFL actually starts promoting the national history of the game instead of just the Victorian history.
by biscuit » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:42 pm
by Adelaide Hawk » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:29 pm
by am Bays » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:52 pm
by biscuit » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:33 pm
by drebin » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:23 pm
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Russell Ebert should be a legend, 300+ games 4 magareries, premierships, All Australian, coaching, development of the game....
In the one season (1979) he played he showed he was good enough at the end of his career, when he flew over on a Thursday and flew back on a Sunday. Not bad for a bloke only training once a week with his team....
Not decrying Doc Baldock'scontributiuon to the game as an example but Ebert has done as much in the games as at least half the other legends.....
I 100% agree the Victorian Standard of football was better back then but I believe there are potential Hall-of Famers and Legends of the game in WA and SA who have done as much if not more than some of teh current members of each category. the only crime they have had is to play in a lesser standard of footy but when they played state footy they showed they were just as good if not better than their Victorian counterparts...
by Leaping Lindner » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:37 pm
drebin wrote:1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Russell Ebert should be a legend, 300+ games 4 magareries, premierships, All Australian, coaching, development of the game....
In the one season (1979) he played he showed he was good enough at the end of his career, when he flew over on a Thursday and flew back on a Sunday. Not bad for a bloke only training once a week with his team....
Not decrying Doc Baldock'scontributiuon to the game as an example but Ebert has done as much in the games as at least half the other legends.....
I 100% agree the Victorian Standard of football was better back then but I believe there are potential Hall-of Famers and Legends of the game in WA and SA who have done as much if not more than some of teh current members of each category. the only crime they have had is to play in a lesser standard of footy but when they played state footy they showed they were just as good if not better than their Victorian counterparts...
Ebert may well be elevated one day but the "mail is" that Ken Farmer will be rightly so next elevated to the Legend status. If so that will make him only the second legend along with Robran to be the only two not to have played in the VFL/AFL. Not a bad strike rate for the good old Roosters if it happens!
I still can't fathom how Farmer wasn't even inducted in the inaugural selections - the Bradman of goal kicking!
by Aerie » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:46 pm
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Biscuit, I don't know how far back your memory extends, or your knowledge of football history. I can understand the point of view you are making, but having watched football through the 60s, 70s and 80s, it was clear to me over that period that VFL was a higher standard than SANFL or WAFL. That's not to say that SA or WA footballers couldn't have been successful, it's just that the overall standard of VFL was tougher and more intense.
Record books indicate that Victoria has been the superior football state back to the beginning of football, dominant in AFC carnivals and state matches in general. I watched SA v VFL state matches from 1966 to 1982 without ever seeing us beat them, and we received some powerful thumpings in the interim.
I have no real problem with only 1 SA player being elevated to legends status, and I am pleased it is Barrie Robran. He is the only one I can think who truly belongs to such an elite group. I have always loved SANFL footy but I've never had delusions we were of equal standard to VFL as other people appear to think.
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