1977 Ardath Cup

[SABRE]

Found this while trying to get info on the 1977 Ardath Cup.
Although of interest to all footy fans, this East Perth history might also be of interest
to Sturt, North, Norwood & Port followers.

http://www.arach.net.au/~daveiza/royals/nfl.html

Love the bit about Mal Brown going off his nut. Wonder if Rooster supporters took
up a collection for him after he softened up Carlton for them. I’d sell my Granny to
have seen that one man war happen. (It’s OK, she’d sell me for a pint of stout !)
Still looking for all results of games played during the Ardath Cup.
Can anyone help ?

[therisingblues]

Nice find SABRE.

These quotes are of particular interest:

The Victorian Football League 76th Annual Report 1972 - "North Adelaide thoroughly deserved their victory, but may have been fortunate to meet a Carlton which had lost many players through injury after a strenuous match against East Perth (WANFL) on the previous days.".

South Australian Football Record Year Book 1973 - "In addition, there was the battering that Carlton had taken a day earlier against WA premiers East Perth - a tough match that had caused a Carlton reshuffle for the final through injuries and had left many other players stiff and sore."

I am wondering what event the SA Football record was referring to when it mentioned the battering Carlton had taken a day earlier. If it was some training session then the quote is a little mis-leading without the context being mentioned (by the related website), but within the framework of the presentation it looks as though they are saying that North played Carlton the day after the Blues played East Perth! Bizarre scheduling if true.

[SABRE]

Cheers TRB,
Don’t ya just love the understated language…..’a strenuous match’
In other words they…‘HIT THE LIVING SH1T OUT OF EACHOTHER !’.
Bet the St. John’s squads were on overtime.
Wouldn’t it be great if there’s still some footage doing the rounds.
Never get sick of seeing that tape of ‘Balmey’ declare war on Carlton in
‘that’ GF. Wonder what it was that got The Blues into so many ‘blues’.

[Leaping Lindner]

Yet despite the "battering" Carlton had taken we were still absolute outsiders AND down at the last break going into the wind in the last quarter.

[blueandwhite]

I have video of the Brown incident. he belted perhaps 4-5 carlton players , 1 after the other as they came in to "fly the flag". I think from memory Trevor Keogh suffered a broken jaw. If the same thing happened today he would get a life suspension.

[Ash59]

I went to the East Perth/Carlon game and remember theMal Brown incident. I went with a mate and we sat on the concrete behind the northern goals. I don't know the crowd size but my recollection was that there weren't more than a few thousand there. Behind us on the grass sat a couple of guys with beer cans littered around them at least waist high. they spent the day just giving stick to the Vics. Mal Browns antics were met with a "Football WA!!". They were very funny as I recall.

[spell_check]

The crowd was 19,599, but since it was the match before the Roosters encounter with City-South, it would have been smaller than that figure.

[bayman]

is that the year you could get polaroid snapshots of games from coles ? i have a few in a cupboard will have to look in the morning

[Adelaide Hawk]

I have video of the Brown incident. he belted perhaps 4-5 carlton players , 1 after the other as they came in to "fly the flag". I think from memory Trevor Keogh suffered a broken jaw. If the same thing happened today he would get a life suspension.

A humorous aside from that incident was KG Cunningham the next day on the Sunday Football Show getting stuck into Brown for what he considered to be a "cowardly act". The rest of the panel laughed at him suggesting it was hardly cowardly to stand tow to toe with half a dozen Carlton players and belt the lot of them

[rd]

The crowd was 19,599, but since it was the match before the Roosters encounter with City-South, it would have been smaller than that figure.

I was there that day as well - sat on the eastern side on the pickets and can remember squinting into the sun watching Brown go to work. The North Adel/City South match was the 1st match played that day - Carlton/East Perth was the main event so to speak.

[Ash59]

Yes, my vague recollection tells me that a lot of people left at the end of the first game...

[spell_check]

I see, well, I must have assumed that the match involving the SA team would have been second. But as you would expect, no matter when it was, the match not involving the SA team would have been less patronised.

[spell_check]

The teams for the 1977 Final changed a fair bit from their selected line ups, and without a definite list of who played in the match, I can only give the scorers and best players:

Norwood 3.0 6.2 8.3 10.9 (69)
East Perth 2.1 4.4 8.7 9.7 (61)
Norwood, 12000

Best: Norwood: Button, Kerley, Taylor, Olsen, Rosser, Craig, Michalanney
East Perth: Hamilton, Curtis, Otway, Michalczyk, Spencer, Bryant

Scorers: Norwood: Button 2.2, Michalanney 2.1, Gallagher 1.2, Gregg 1.1, Woodcock, Rosser, Adler, von Bertouch 1.0, Sapwell 0.2, Rushed 0.1.
East Perth: Spencer 3.1, Arnold 2.1, Otway 1.2, Verstegen 1.1, Stewart, Hamilton 1.0, Armour 0.1, Rushed 0.1.

For other players that definitely played in that match, were the Royals' Bradley Smith and Ian McCulloch.

[therisingblues]

I have video of the Brown incident. he belted perhaps 4-5 carlton players , 1 after the other as they came in to "fly the flag". I think from memory Trevor Keogh suffered a broken jaw. If the same thing happened today he would get a life suspension.

That sounds like must see viewing to me BAW. Is there anyway you could load it up onto YouTube?

I remember another Brown incident, this time he was coaching some WAFL side. I think the poor bloke had been going through a bit of a controversial stint, but at the end of the game, which his side had lost, a TV boundary rider ran up to him to ask a question. Brown snatched the microphone, ripped the chord out and handed the newly useless mike back to him. All without breaking stride or facial expression.

[spell_check]

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7NJq0qgl4hk

This footage is from "Sensational Seventies". I recall about 10 years ago on the short-lived Channel 7 rival to the Footy Show "Live and Kicking" more bits and pieces were shown of that match. No doubt the Vics kept more footage of that match over the following days match for those reasons (the result being the other)

[Adelaide Hawk]

The teams for the 1977 Final changed a fair bit from their selected line ups, and without a definite list of who played in the match, I can only give the scorers and best players:

Norwood 3.0 6.2 8.3 10.9 (69)
East Perth 2.1 4.4 8.7 9.7 (61)
Norwood, 12000

Best: Norwood: Button, Kerley, Taylor, Olsen, Rosser, Craig, Michalanney
East Perth: Hamilton, Curtis, Otway, Michalczyk, Spencer, Bryant

Scorers: Norwood: Button 2.2, Michalanney 2.1, Gallagher 1.2, Gregg 1.1, Woodcock, Rosser, Adler, von Bertouch 1.0, Sapwell 0.2, Rushed 0.1.
East Perth: Spencer 3.1, Arnold 2.1, Otway 1.2, Verstegen 1.1, Stewart, Hamilton 1.0, Armour 0.1, Rushed 0.1.

For other players that definitely played in that match, were the Royals' Bradley Smith and Ian McCulloch.

Spelly, I can give you the Norwood team, and I've been looking at a tape of 40 minutes highlights of the game to work out the East Perth positions. I've got 19 players and can't work out the 20th. I'll take another look at the tape later and see if I can pick him up. Archie Duda was named in the team but I haven't spotted him.

Anyway, the Norwood team is:
Coach: Bob Hammond
Captain: John Wynne
F: Michael Gregg, Paul Adler, Terry Von Bertouch
HF: Phil Gallagher, Jim Michalanney, Roger Woodcock
C: Chris Fienemann, Neil Craig, Glen Rosser
HB: John Clarke, Stephen Kerley, Graeme Dunstan
B: Grant Zubrinich, Ian Stasinowsky, Michael Olsen
Ruck: Neil Button, John Wynne, Michael Taylor
Res: Trevor Sapwell, Rodney Pope

[spell_check]

It was noted in the report that Duda did not play.

[Ash59]

Mal Brown was involved in another incident in Perth. Either as playing coach or non-playing caoch he had been suspended and wasn't allowed "on the ground". So he hired a cherry picker which lifted him over the fence and gave his quarter time address perched about six inches above the ground.

[McAlmanac]

I have video of the Brown incident. he belted perhaps 4-5 carlton players , 1 after the other as they came in to "fly the flag". I think from memory Trevor Keogh suffered a broken jaw. If the same thing happened today he would get a life suspension.

That sounds like must see viewing to me BAW. Is there anyway you could load it up onto YouTube?

I remember another Brown incident, this time he was coaching some WAFL side. I think the poor bloke had been going through a bit of a controversial stint, but at the end of the game, which his side had lost, a TV boundary rider ran up to him to ask a question. Brown snatched the microphone, ripped the chord out and handed the newly useless mike back to him. All without breaking stride or facial expression.

The sort of thing that happens on the wrestling. Which says volumes about Mal Brown.

[GWW]

Sounds like something Alan Bond used to do, must be a Western Australian thing