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82' Prelim Granger Incident

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:05 pm
by JK
Ok, now I understand this could be a very sensitive topic with some supporters, so I'll just point out that this is a legitimate question.

I just saw the incident again on video in which Granger broke Barratt's leg, an incident in which anyone I've ever spoken to had no doubt as to what Grangers intention was ... However I was wondering if you could make an argument for Granger attempting to soccer the ball, as he'd "fluffed" the possession and spilled the ball behind him?

Not saying this is the case, I just wouldn't have thought the footage was completely conclusive.

Re: 82' Prelim Granger Incident

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:43 pm
by Pseudo
Constance_Perm wrote:Ok, now I understand this could be a very sensitive topic with some supporters, so I'll just point out that this is a legitimate question.

I just saw the incident again on video in which Granger broke Barratt's leg, an incident in which anyone I've ever spoken to had no doubt as to what Grangers intention was ... However I was wondering if you could make an argument for Granger attempting to soccer the ball, as he'd "fluffed" the possession and spilled the ball behind him?

Not saying this is the case, I just wouldn't have thought the footage was completely conclusive.


If you have the rest of the match on video too, then I'll trade you my first born for a copy.

or, well, something like that...

Re: 82' Prelim Granger Incident

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 12:03 am
by am Bays
Its a game I've never seen save for a few highlights on teh Tigers of Old DVD, wouldn't mind a butchers at it myself...

Re: 82' Prelim Granger Incident

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 12:28 am
by rogernumber10
As one at the game, and with a video, I reckon most supporters base their view on whether it was deliberate or not on the whole of his second half, which wasn't pretty reading.
Barratt, Cornes, Maynard etc etc

This from a Norwood man with no love for either club.

Re: 82' Prelim Granger Incident

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 12:40 am
by spell_check
I wouldn't mind a copy of that match myself... :) Amongst many other matches, that will never get commercially marketed.

Re: 82' Prelim Granger Incident

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 12:52 am
by JK
Sorry lads, it's only from The Way It Was 82 (I refused to watch BB with the missus on the main box), but more than happy to lend it around ... It's actually on DVD already.

Fair call there too Roger ... It was pretty evident in the 10 minutes of highlights from that game nearly all Port players came out looking to soften the Bays up right from the get go - Funny thing was when they actually started playing footy they started looking the more effective team.

Re: 82' Prelim Granger Incident

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 1:12 am
by therisingblues
Funny how the same matches keep getting brought up. My favourite is that game at the Parade the following year that we often get to talk about. :lol:
Anyway, the '82 Preliminary Final was the first league match I ever saw.
Something that doesn't often get mentioned about this game was that when the Magpies team came out after half time, they all bunched together in the center square, and then proceeded to rough each other up with hip and shoulders or whatever. Cahill later said that he wanted to intimidate the Tigers and fire up the Magpies a bit more.
The other was that when Granger came on from the bench for the first time that match, his opposite number (Cornes?) ran over to him and hit him. It doesn't show up too well on the replay because of the angle, but when Granger hit him back they were side to side, and the TV camera and photographers at the ground got great images of Granger knocking him off his feet.
Granger went nuts for the rest of the match, but I sort of felt it was wrong that he got blamed for that first hit when it was provoked.
On the football side, there was an overhead snap for a goal by Danny Hughes ( I hope I go the right player) from a pocket, beating two Glenelg players in the process to put the Magpies within a straight kick late in the final quarter.
Great game.

Re: 82' Prelim Granger Incident

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 1:16 am
by spell_check
It was obvious to John Halbert what the motive was, Gordon Schwarz wrote:

"When I suggested that Barratt may have been accidentely kicked, Halbert exploded "Rubbish. His leg was broken by a deliberate kick and you can quote that. I won't listen to a suggestion like that."

Re: 82' Prelim Granger Incident

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:48 am
by am Bays
Constance_Perm wrote:Sorry lads, it's only from The Way It Was 82 (I refused to watch BB with the missus on the main box), but more than happy to lend it around ... It's actually on DVD already.

Fair call there too Roger ... It was pretty evident in the 10 minutes of highlights from that game nearly all Port players came out looking to soften the Bays up right from the get go - Funny thing was when they actually started playing footy they started looking the more effective team.


Any particualr reason why you pulled out* 1982 TWIW CP??? :wink:

Re: 82' Prelim Granger Incident

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:54 am
by JK
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:Sorry lads, it's only from The Way It Was 82 (I refused to watch BB with the missus on the main box), but more than happy to lend it around ... It's actually on DVD already.

Fair call there too Roger ... It was pretty evident in the 10 minutes of highlights from that game nearly all Port players came out looking to soften the Bays up right from the get go - Funny thing was when they actually started playing footy they started looking the more effective team.


Any particualr reason why you pulled out* 1982 TWIW CP??? :wink:


LOL yeah mate, I'd already watched TWIW 84 recently ... I don't have too much left to watch now :?

Re: 82' Prelim Granger Incident

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:29 pm
by Harry the Horse
Constance_Perm wrote:Ok, now I understand this could be a very sensitive topic with some supporters, so I'll just point out that this is a legitimate question.

I just saw the incident again on video in which Granger broke Barratt's leg, an incident in which anyone I've ever spoken to had no doubt as to what Grangers intention was ... However I was wondering if you could make an argument for Granger attempting to soccer the ball, as he'd "fluffed" the possession and spilled the ball behind him?

Not saying this is the case, I just wouldn't have thought the footage was completely conclusive.


Yep, shades of the Barry Hall/Brent Staker incident there ... I'll need to watch it again.

Re: 82' Prelim Granger Incident

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:11 pm
by Magpiespower
Perhaps the most infamous match in South Australian football history?

Electric atmosphere at Footy Park that day was. Though it felt like one spark could send the whole joint up in flames.

Only atmosphere I've encountered like it since was at a Millwall v Derby 2nd Div. match, The Old Den, 1987.

Was only eight at the time (1982) and thought finishing third was a pretty good year. At the time, I really didn't understand the devastation of the Port supporters on the deathly quiet bus on the way home.

Come to think of it - I still don't!

#-o

Re: 82' Prelim Granger Incident

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:27 pm
by leftlegger
Harry the Horse wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:Ok, now I understand this could be a very sensitive topic with some supporters, so I'll just point out that this is a legitimate question.

I just saw the incident again on video in which Granger broke Barratt's leg, an incident in which anyone I've ever spoken to had no doubt as to what Grangers intention was ... However I was wondering if you could make an argument for Granger attempting to soccer the ball, as he'd "fluffed" the possession and spilled the ball behind him?

Not saying this is the case, I just wouldn't have thought the footage was completely conclusive.


Yep, shades of the Barry Hall/Brent Staker incident there ... I'll need to watch it again.


Except Studley got straight to his feet and held Granger to 1 kick for the match.
Staker did not get up.

I was at that match. Very eerie feeling throughout the whole stadium when Granger went near the ball.
My most vivid memory of the day was my mate being 'Brollied' by some grumpy old Port Boiler after the match. Laugh! I nearly Shat!