Attn Spelly: 2007 Crowds

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The crowds can increase further; some of these I have suggested before, and surely they do not cost much at all!

-Start the season in the week between the NAB Cup and AFL Round 1
-More night matches overall, and mostly at the start of the season, and a few more near the finish of the season
-Implement a Mini League competition like what was done in the 70s, to generate interest amongst kids and therefore interest in the SANFL and its teams
-No scheduling night matches against Crows or Port

I'd also like to see the ABC be flexible in telecasting a Friday night match, instead of the Saturday game up against the Crows or Port, but I can't see that happening.

[Wedgie]

Crowds should have improved 150% with the way the comps gone this year, the fact its basically gone nowhere says a lot.
I congratulate the North fans who made a stand in saying that nothing besides Saturday afternoon was the go, if they'd rocked up the SANFL would have thought they were successful, at least the statement has been made to the SANFL.
SANFL is Saturday afternoon football.
I know heaps of fans that would have loved to have gone to several games this year but felt if they did they would have been making the statement that they agree with the SANFL's stupid fixture of catering for bandwagonners and playing of games on Tuesdays, Thurdsays, Sundays, etc. They stood solid and I applaud them for that.
The statement has been made.
Take notice SANFL!

[BPBRB]

Is your assertion that there was a poor Centrals turnout at Prospect based on any sort of fact or just your opinion that there weren't many there? From my point of view there were always plenty of dogs fans there as there always have been in the last few years (I can't remember further back). Perhaps you get that impression because you stand amongst a North dominated group, but i assure you there were plenty of dogs fans there.

Well the overall turnout from both sets of supporters for both games at Prospect this year was down on what you would consider would be high crowd drawing games. The second game when we beat Centrals, I thought there seemed to be alot less Centrals supporters than normal - that was backed by some comments on here and also on the Centrals forum from memory from some of your own fans. Having said that, you lot do not stay away from Prospect like some of the other clubs supporters.

Going back to to 2005 North and Centrals Round 22 at AO - Centrals top and North playing for the double chance - I think the crowd was about 2500 approx. A poor crowd for that game on what was a fine Sat. afternoon. Centrals crowds at Elizabeth are very good but for some reason they don't seem to drag the numbers to Prospect as you would expect? Maybe some of the North fans stay away a little because of our dreadful record at home against the dogs?

[Wedgie]

Even the port turnout who are traditionally the strongest crowd wise at Prospect was down this year, maybe people are put off by the poor parking and run down facilities where North fans are just used to it?
Personally I don't blame fans of other clubs not rocking up to Prospect at the moment, great atmosphere but these days its facilities more than atmosphere that draws a lot of people especially when they're used to much better facilities at their own club.

[FlyingHigh]

Crowds should have improved 150% with the way the comps gone this year, the fact its basically gone nowhere says a lot.
I congratulate the North fans who made a stand in saying that nothing besides Saturday afternoon was the go, if they'd rocked up the SANFL would have thought they were successful, at least the statement has been made to the SANFL.
SANFL is Saturday afternoon football.
I know heaps of fans that would have loved to have gone to several games this year but felt if they did they would have been making the statement that they agree with the SANFL's stupid fixture of catering for bandwagonners and playing of games on Tuesdays, Thurdsays, Sundays, etc. They stood solid and I applaud them for that.
The statement has been made.
Take notice SANFL!


What a load of crap Wedgie.

Aren't supporters meant to follow their team regardless of when and where they're playing? To say they won't support their team it's not Saturday arvo is pathetic and a cop out. Eagles crowds have been blasted on this site (deservedly in my opinion), and supporters who don't follow them because they are not the old Torrens or Woodville have been regarded as weak as piss (with which I agree too). Surely the same argument applies in this instance.

Yes, I'd like to see most games 2.20, Sat arvo culture back, but times have changed and we're in a completely different environment. Sundays and Fridays, may be catering for a few bandwaggoners, but moreso catering for the REAL football followers who are involved in amatuer and country footy on Saturdays, and because of this love for footy have also maintained an interest in the SANFL.

[bulldogproud]

So Central supporters get blamed for the low crowds at Prospect despite having the statistics of having the most supporters at away games for the season. Interesting!
Oh, and will command God to make sure it rains all over Adelaide but not Prospect Oval next year *grins*

While you're at it could you make sure we get a summer this time...and a Norwood GF...and Ireland win the RWC...oooh and a lottery win would be nice too...thanks in anticipation

Regards
JAS

Anything for you, JAS darling *grins*
Sadly, God stopped listening to me the first week of October last year though - he let the Eagles win the flag! *grins*

[Wedgie]

Yeah smart flyinghigh, using your logic we should vote Liberal if we want Labor to win the election.

I'll type it slowly for you this time.
If people don't want Sunday football then the only way they can tell the SANFL who wont listen to the clubs involved is to vote with their feet.
If they rock up to every Sunday match and the crowds improve as a result then they'll have to put up with Sunday matches for the rest of their life.
And what crap about real supporters being involved with other clubs and them getting catered to, its actually the opposite.
When I played football I found a competition that played on Sunday so I could still attend every North match as Im a REAL supporter. With the current programming they would be disadvantaging a REAL supporter as I'd miss games if I was still playing.
In fact Im advantaged by Sunday footy finals even though I hate them as it means I get to start my lawn bowls season a lot earlier even if we did lose today!

Look I'll go to football any day, FFS I attended 4 SANFL games last weekend, Im just explaining why the numbers are as they area, I personally no many people that attended only about 14 games this year that attended much more in previous years.

Its a double edged sword though if you look at it logically, more Sunday football means you can get more casual people going, more Saturday football means you look after the traditional supporter who put their hard earned through the clubs every year, ideally you'd look after both of those supporters which the SANFL is trying to juggle (and failing).

[FlyingHigh]

Yeah, fair enough Wedgie, I can see your argument now that the more people go on those days, the more Sunday footy will be programmed, and that will turn away some "traditional" supporters. I wasn't tryin to insinuate that someone had to be involved in an amateur club to be a REAL footballer supporter, just that these are more likely to go to SANFL games than the casual "bandwaggoner"/AFL type. How many serious amateur/country footy leagues play their games on Sundays? In the past I have given up playing footy for a year because I wanted to go and watch the SANFL on Saturdays.

But if the Roosters can make Saturday arvo at Prospect their niche, then good luck to them.

[Wedgie]

How many serious amateur/country footy leagues play their games on Sundays?

Dunno mate, I didn't have to look much further than the Southern Football League which has C grade on Sunday, was asked to play Bs a few times but turned them down.
Obviously not as serious as most as I didn't start playing footy until I was 25 (with the exception of one year in Under 8s at school).

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That's what I was thinking too, Flying High. South have made Sunday their preferred time spot, Norwood has Friday night matches, Glenelg also has quite a few Sunday matches, North should lobby enough to make Saturday the only time home matches are played.

If the SANFL can't listen to a club, then it is just another sign on how they pay most of their attention to their AFL clubs.

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Eagles crowds have been blasted on this site (deservedly in my opinion), and supporters who don't follow them because they are not the old Torrens or Woodville have been regarded as weak as piss (with which I agree too). Surely the same argument applies in this instance.

And you are 100% correct with that statement too.

[Wedgie]

Eagles crowds have been blasted on this site (deservedly in my opinion), and supporters who don't follow them because they are not the old Torrens or Woodville have been regarded as weak as piss (with which I agree too). Surely the same argument applies in this instance.

And you are 100% correct with that statement too.

I don't regard people who followed Torrens or Woodville who don't follow the Eagles as weak as piss, in fact the opposite, I know if North had merged with Sturt they would have been the last club I would have followed, probably why I was so passionate in being a part of the Roosters Against Mergers. If anything I would have done similar to what I do with Adelaide United now and barrack for every side BUT the merged entity as to me it was just a piss weak way out of mess. Can't blame anyone for not following a new club if their old one died.
In fact to a degree I respect those people more as I knew many of them and they would go to game week in week out in the hard times but didn't want to go to the new club which in turn was quite successful when it would be easier to go week in week out.
Its a whole different issue though and getting off topic. Personal thoughts only.

Must admit I don't read everything on this site but in the posts Ive seen I can't recall old Torrens or Woodville fans for being weak as piss for not following the new Eagles, I have seen Eagles fans criticised for having lower crowds when on TV or against Crows games though.

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Eagles crowds have been blasted on this site (deservedly in my opinion), and supporters who don't follow them because they are not the old Torrens or Woodville have been regarded as weak as piss (with which I agree too). Surely the same argument applies in this instance.

And you are 100% correct with that statement too.

I don't regard people who followed Torrens or Woodville who don't follow the Eagles as weak as piss, in fact the opposite, I know if North had merged with Sturt they would have been the last club I would have followed, probably why I was so passionate in being a part of the Roosters Against Mergers. If anything I would have done similar to what I do with Adelaide United now and barrack for every side BUT the merged entity as to me it was just a piss weak way out of mess. Can't blame anyone for not following a new club if their old one died.
In fact to a degree I respect those people more as I knew many of them and they would go to game week in week out in the hard times but didn't want to go to the new club which in turn was quite successful when it would be easier to go week in week out.
Its a whole different issue though and getting off topic. Personal thoughts only.

Must admit I don't read everything on this site but in the posts Ive seen I can't recall old Torrens or Woodville fans for being weak as piss for not following the new Eagles, I have seen Eagles fans criticised for having lower crowds when on TV or against Crows games though.

There's one thing that some people don't realise either - the North/Sturt circumstances were different. I know you'll totally disagree with what I have said, but that's the way it was.

[Wedgie]

There's one thing that some people don't realise either - the North/Sturt circumstances were different. I know you'll totally disagree with what I have said, but that's the way it was.

You're wrong, I do realise that and fully agree with you that they were different, I think that's besides the point as my opinion wouldn't have been any different though no matter what the reasons were.

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There's one thing that some people don't realise either - the North/Sturt circumstances were different. I know you'll totally disagree with what I have said, but that's the way it was.

You're wrong, I do realise that and fully agree with you that they were different.

Hmm, well I know my stats are better than my psychic abilities!

[FlyingHigh]

I remember it being discussed once or twice Wedgie, bit sure whether it was on this one or earlier days on footysa. I know you're pretty adamant on this merger subject, but at the time I was only a kid, what could have I done to stop it?

It could be regarded as weak, or could be regarded as a selfless act - how would the standard and reputation of the SANFL be if it had to support another club, ie 80 footballers of that supposed standard every weekend? I think it's weak as piss for those who have used it as an excuse to convert to following the Crows.

Anyway, this could go on forever. Just looking forward to tomorrow.

[Wedgie]

I remember it being discussed once or twice Wedgie, bit sure whether it was on this one or earlier days on footysa. I know you're pretty adamant on this merger subject, but at the time I was only a kid, what could have I done to stop it?

It could be regarded as weak, or could be regarded as a selfless act - how would the standard and reputation of the SANFL be if it had to support another club, ie 80 footballers of that supposed standard every weekend? I think it's weak as piss for those who have used it as an excuse to convert to following the Crows.

Anyway, this could go on forever. Just looking forward to tomorrow.

Yeah, its pretty pointless seeing as I was just agreeing with you. Should be a couple of rippeer games tomorrow.
Just saw that it was windy and showers tomorrow, dunno if our banner will handle it, we shouldn't make the things so bloody big compared to everyone elses!

[cd]

2007 all teams had 10 home games and 10 away due to adelaide oval work whereas in 2006 we all had 9 home games, 9 away and 2 neutral. Plus the teams you play 3 times are different each year so difficult to judge.

For example we played Westies 3 times twice at Richmond, and Centrals 3 times twice at Elizabeth but did not travel to Noarlunga this year.

Given that figures over past 4 years are on the increase the league has to be happy.
Programming will effect - but so too does performance.

[smithy]

How many serious amateur/country footy leagues play their games on Sundays?

I didn't start playing footy until I was 25 (with the exception of one year in Under 8s at school).

Did you wear the red and green or the brown and gold ??