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TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:04 pm
by magpie in the 80's
New Year New Thread

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:20 pm
by jackpot jim
Just for Mal, it looks like Tattsbet is betting Fixed Odds on ALL Globe Derby races tonight.

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:36 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
good start for tattsbet fixed odds first winner was unders on the tote

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:42 pm
by jackpot jim
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:good start for tattsbet fixed odds first winner was unders on the tote


Best tote about the winner was $4.80.
Tattsbet were betting $6.00 the majority of the time.
Also Have a Swig running 3rd. $4.10 the tote, $11.50 a place Tattsbet.

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:43 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
no market up for race 2

perhaps they lost too much on the first :lol:

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:49 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
the market is up for race 2

im keen on Just Wal to be winning this

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:58 pm
by mal
GDP RACE 2

TATTSBET ODDS FIRST-BETFAIR ODDS LISTED 2ND


1...12.......14.5
2...5.50.....7
3...3-60.....4-30
4...14........15
5...10.......11.5
6...2-40....2-56
7...42.......41
8...31.......55

Those odds about 1 second before they started

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:03 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
power in disguise was longer then the $3.60

to be fair when doing a comparison you need to look at full fluctuations

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:12 pm
by mal
jackpot jim wrote:Just for Mal, it looks like Tattsbet is betting Fixed Odds on ALL Globe Derby races tonight.



Yep off course they are
Im not betting tonight
Wake me up IF they bet on Mondays/Fridays and Saturdays when the carnival is finished
Until then I will predominantly keep betting with BF

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:20 pm
by mal
5 minutes to go
TIGER OREILLYS place odds
Unitab $1-00
Tattsbett $1-20 set odds
Betfair $1-50 set odds

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:33 pm
by mal
Race 3 GDP
Tattsbett listed first Betfair listed 2nd on the start of the race

1...2-80...3-10
2...41......70
3...2-30....2-50
4...8-50...12-50
5...34........36
6...15.......23
7...17........25
8...51.......160
9....11......13.5

The Winner Tiger Orielly
Fluctuations
tatts $2-40...$2-30
bfair $2-72...$2-50

Tiger Orielly was $1-20 tattsbet for the place
BF punters got $1-50 at least for the place which = $1.475 after commissions[max amount of 5%]

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:22 pm
by jackpot jim
I DON"T have a Betfair Account yet.
I'll concede that it sounds very enticing from a punters perspective.

Question 1 ............ Is it possible that EVERY punter can win on a single race on Betfair ?
Question 2 ............ Is it possible that EVERY punter can win on a single race with Tattsbet OR any other Fixed odds bookie?

I Totally HATE being Bombarded with those pathetic irritating annoying Betfair commercials during the cricket. :evil:

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:03 am
by bayman
i don't know about betfair but i rang up tattsbet & took $1.75 glengowan fixed as the oncourse bookies opened him at $1.40 as he was very impressive sitting outside repelem last monday & blew her away.......i had already backed repelem at the $2.50 place only on tattsbet (paid $2.30 tote)......what was her place only price betfair ?...the winner of race 8 awaywithmal was $3.80 into about $2.40 on tattsbet & she opened up even money with both bookies on track, so regardless of all this crap of what is better you will get the best div from different places over the course of the year

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:09 am
by mighty_tiger_79
it would be fair to assume tattsbet will be better more often then not then the bookie on course

tattsbet v betfair v other corporates

Betfair will generally win out due to the nature of the process , but you have to take into consideration the fluctuations throughout betting on all agencies....

Personally if you bet win or place then Betfair is an account worth having - but if you prefer to bet exotics then corporate/TAB accounts are what you need

It all depends on your punting style

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:23 am
by Iron man
Just curious Bayman for a bloke that always has an opinion on whats best for our industry - does tattsbet give anything back to the industry it sponges off ??????
bayman wrote:i don't know about betfair but i rang up tattsbet & took $1.75 glengowan fixed as the oncourse bookies opened him at $1.40 as he was very impressive sitting outside repelem last monday & blew her away.......i had already backed repelem at the $2.50 place only on tattsbet (paid $2.30 tote)......what was her place only price betfair ?...the winner of race 8 awaywithmal was $3.80 into about $2.40 on tattsbet & she opened up even money with both bookies on track, so regardless of all this crap of what is better you will get the best div from different places over the course of the year

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:31 pm
by mal
Living in the 70s... JJ/MT/BAYMAN/SKYHOOKS

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:51 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
mal wrote:Living in the 70s... JJ/MT/BAYMAN/SKYHOOKS


living in the 70's

not sure why you are including me in this MAL

i love betfair and as i posted if you bet win/place predominantly then you need betfair

if you bet on exotics then you need tab accounts and corporate accounts

all depends on your punting style

and there will be times where betfair wont be the best

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:18 pm
by mal
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
mal wrote:Living in the 70s... JJ/MT/BAYMAN/SKYHOOKS


living in the 70's

not sure why you are including me in this MAL

i love betfair and as i posted if you bet win/place predominantly then you need betfair

if you bet on exotics then you need tab accounts and corporate accounts

all depends on your punting style

and there will be times where betfair wont be the best



Sorry
The way you were pumping up Tattsbet vrs Unitab I had thought you didnt have a BF account
Anyway why bother , why dont you just compare BF with Unitab

FWIW
I checked out 7 races last night
I saw only 1 win or place set odds that Tattsbet had that was greater than BF

UNITAB = DELI
TATTSBET = SUPER DELI
BETFAIR = SUPERMARKET


UNITAB = GREENACRES
TATTSBET = SOUTH ADELAIDE
BETFAIR = CENTRALS

Living in the 70s...JJ/BAYMAN

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:25 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
different accounts offer different options

I would say Jackpot JIm - given his name i would say he invests heavily into exotic jackpot pools moreso then win/place so having a betfair account wouldnt be a priority for him

Re: TROTS 2011 all Tips and Chat in here

PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:28 pm
by mal
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:different accounts offer different options

I would say Jackpot JIm - given his name i would say he invests heavily into exotic jackpot pools moreso then win/place so having a betfair account wouldnt be a priority for him



Anyone who has ever had a $5+ on a win or place bet in thier lifetimes need to make BF a priority