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Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:34 pm
by G
Why does Unitab persist with First 4's in every race at Globe ?
The total pools were -
R.1 $892
R.2 $419
R.3 $1165
R.4 $511
R.5 $1151
R.6 $347
R.7 $357
R.8 $231 :oops:
Go back to 2 or 3 per night and it might work out being worth while. :oops: :oops:

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:59 pm
by SCD
Great point G....

I've noticed they are on all races everywhere these days on punitab and the pools are terrible...
Combine NSW / Vic + QLD and it would be worthwhile.. but not really when you are getting $200 in the pool... a whole $45 in commission :roll: :roll:

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:37 am
by rooburger
i think you will find they have been put in for the new easybet betting option which was supposed to have started in dec.
they are an embarrasment

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:39 am
by Dutchy
does anyone seriously bet on PUNItab these days anyway?

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:46 am
by mighty_tiger_79
rooburger wrote:i think you will find they have been put in for the new easybet betting option which was supposed to have started in dec.
they are an embarrasment


i noticed in last weeks sunday mail in the sports section with ben hook etc they mentioned EASY BET..................

they never said when its coming through and i havent heard a new release date

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:47 am
by mal
Dutchy wrote:does anyone seriously bet on PUNItab these days anyway?


Like my wedding day I DO
Any 2s = $$$$$$$$$$ ca chingggg
Trebles = $$$$$$$$$ ca chinggggg
But thats about it, so agree with Dutchy on this one

However almost anyone who takes Pick4s and Trifectas are destined to be losers[Jackpots excluded]

As for those P4S G is right
But these forms of betting invariably improve with exposure
ANY 2 pools used to be $50 early on, now they are $300 +.
The P4 pools will improve eventually but by how much ?
You would think you need potts of $3000 to be a viable betting meduim
Imagine getting a roughie result and you get back $500 on a P4[the pool] + $1500 on the same Trifecta !

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:08 pm
by bayman
but all those sMALl jackpots during the week adds to jackpot jims collect on the jackpot first4 on race 1 at albion park the next week :wink:

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:20 pm
by mal
bayman wrote:but all those sMALl jackpots during the week adds to jackpot jims collect on the jackpot first4 on race 1 at albion park the next week :wink:


Another reason to never bet on P4S
If they Jackpot to Albion Park thats a joke
The QLD proffessionals would lick thier lips
As we would if Alb Pk Jackpots were onto our SA races

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:37 pm
by bayman
mal wrote:
bayman wrote:but all those sMALl jackpots during the week adds to jackpot jims collect on the jackpot first4 on race 1 at albion park the next week :wink:


Another reason to never bet on P4S
If they Jackpot to Albion Park thats a joke
The QLD proffessionals would lick thier lips
As we would if Alb Pk Jackpots were onto our SA races



mal, all trotting first 4's DO go to albion park race 1 not IF :wink:

i do agree that is a joke though, if a race jackpots in victoria it should jackpot to a victorian race & it should happen like that imho

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:29 pm
by stampy
when are the quaddies coming in?????????, why we ever got into bed with qld tab is beyond me, as usual it was a quick financial fix for the government of the day......bloody john olson :evil:

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:40 pm
by jackpot jim
bayman wrote:but all those sMALl jackpots during the week adds to jackpot jims collect on the jackpot first4 on race 1 at albion park the next week :wink:


Spot on Bayman. :wink:

As do all the Pissy J/Pots from the Gallops now are all added up and put on 1 Race on a Sat Arvo.
Consistently they get $100,000 + Jpots which means most times they are Paying Back more $$$$$ to the Punter than they actually invest on the race which means the odds are in my Favour which makes Winning Rather easy. :D :D

S/Tab J/Pots go onto the Next race at the same meeting which i think is a fairer way of doing it BUT either way it's Easy money.

eg. Why take F4s on races where the Tab take out 22.5% commission when you can bet on J/Pot races where often the payout is > than 100% compared to the norMAL 77.5% ?

These are the Variables in Punting that any Punter that is serious about winning should be taking Advantage of.

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:44 pm
by jackpot jim
mal wrote:
bayman wrote:but all those sMALl jackpots during the week adds to jackpot jims collect on the jackpot first4 on race 1 at albion park the next week :wink:


Another reason to never bet on P4S
If they Jackpot to Albion Park thats a joke
The QLD proffessionals would lick thier lips
As we would if Alb Pk Jackpots were onto our SA races


All the F4s J/Pot to QLD R1 Bcos they have a Better Product to wager on than SA do which means Greater Turnover. Simple as that.

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:43 pm
by centreman
jackpot jim wrote:
bayman wrote:but all those sMALl jackpots during the week adds to jackpot jims collect on the jackpot first4 on race 1 at albion park the next week :wink:


Spot on Bayman. :wink:

As do all the Pissy J/Pots from the Gallops now are all added up and put on 1 Race on a Sat Arvo.
Consistently they get $100,000 + Jpots which means most times they are Paying Back more $$$$$ to the Punter than they actually invest on the race which means the odds are in my Favour which makes Winning Rather easy. :D :D

S/Tab J/Pots go onto the Next race at the same meeting which i think is a fairer way of doing it BUT either way it's Easy money.

eg. Why take F4s on races where the Tab take out 22.5% commission when you can bet on J/Pot races where often the payout is > than 100% compared to the norMAL 77.5% ?

These are the Variables in Punting that any Punter that is serious about winning should be taking Advantage of.


The tabs are happy with any jackpots JJ means the get 2 licks of comission on your money!!!!!
No way are they not gunna take the max comission out of a jackpot pool.
As G would like to work, thats there cream!!!!!

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:47 pm
by bayman
centreman please explain to me how they get it twice, i would have thought once, after the jackpot has concluded but whether it's taken out of the jackpot pool or left until a result has happened i can't see how it's twice :? :? :?

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:49 pm
by Joey
bayman wrote:centreman please explain to me how they get it twice, i would have thought once, after the jackpot has concluded but whether it's taken out of the jackpot pool or left until a result has happened i can't see how it's twice :? :? :?



Pool 3k punitab take 600. 2400 jackpots and builds to say 25k they then take 5k out of the new total thus they have taxed the 2400 twice. nice work if you can get it.

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:52 pm
by bayman
Joey wrote:
bayman wrote:centreman please explain to me how they get it twice, i would have thought once, after the jackpot has concluded but whether it's taken out of the jackpot pool or left until a result has happened i can't see how it's twice :? :? :?



Pool 3k punitab take 600. 2400 jackpots and builds to say 25k they then take 5k out of the new total thus they have taxed the 2400 twice. nice work if you can get it.


thanks for explaining that toey, it's almost stealing then isn't it ?

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:55 pm
by jackpot jim
bayman wrote:
Joey wrote:
bayman wrote:centreman please explain to me how they get it twice, i would have thought once, after the jackpot has concluded but whether it's taken out of the jackpot pool or left until a result has happened i can't see how it's twice :? :? :?



Pool 3k punitab take 600. 2400 jackpots and builds to say 25k they then take 5k out of the new total thus they have taxed the 2400 twice. nice work if you can get it.


thanks for explaining that toey, it's almost stealing then isn't it ?


I seriously doubt that this is the case.

On the W.A. Tab site (TABozbet) they advertise the Jackpot amount with their commission taken OUT but they include the Total jackpot carryover amount in the Pool size on the nominated jackpot race therefore indicating that the commission is taken out ONCE only.
I Assume PuniTab do the same, it's just that they DO Include the entire carryover amount in their Pool total so how does that amount to Double Dipping ???? :?

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:43 pm
by SCD
Total pool = $635 :roll: :roll: why would you bother betting into a first four with such a small pool??

1 min before the jump it's at $30 = more proof unitab should just pick selected races on all codes - as suggested by G

Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:02 pm
by mal
scaffidi can't drive wrote:Total pool = $635 :roll: :roll: why would you bother betting into a first four with such a small pool??

1 min before the jump it's at $30 = more proof unitab should just pick selected races on all codes - as suggested by G


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Re: Globe Derby First 4's

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:29 pm
by SCD
A new way to follow the LATE Mal - tipping winners 20 mins after the race :roll: :roll:

What about Race 8 there today.. $61 first four jackpot :shock: :shock: