Melbourne Cup 2010 Tips & Discussion

[mighty_tiger_79]

Name Odds - MELBOURNE CUP

Fixed Odds
So You Think 4.20
Shocking 5.50
Precedence 11.00
Manighar 13.00
Americain 13.00
Alcopop 15.00
Descarado 15.00
Linton 17.00
Profound Beauty 19.00
Dariana 21.00
Shoot Out 21.00
Holberg 21.00
Monaco Consul 26.00
Zipping 26.00
Harris Tweed 26.00
Jessicabeel 31.00
Illustrious Blue 31.00
Moudre 31.00
Bauer 31.00
Mr Medici 31.00
Maluckyday 31.00
Faint Perfume 41.00
Tokai Trick 41.00
Cest La Guerre 41.00
Zavite 41.00
Eastern Aria 51.00
Herculian Prince 61.00
Drunken Sailor 61.00
Campanologist 61.00
Exceptionally 61.00
Cedarberg 81.00
Once Were Wild 101.00
Mr Charlie 101.00
Mourayan 101.00
Master Oreilly 101.00
Metal Bender 101.00
Count Encosta 151.00
The Hombre 151.00
Zantelagh 151.00
My Bentley 201.00
Get Up Jude 201.00
Capecover 251.00
No Wine No Song 251.00
Valdemoro 301.00
Rundle 301.00
Above Average 301.00
Persian Star 301.00
Sterling Prince 301.00
Buccellati 301.00
Doctor Fremantle 301.00
Red Ruler 301.00
Becqu Adoree 301.00
Stanstill 301.00
Sea Galleon 301.00
Akzar 501.00
Ajhar 501.00
Muir 501.00
Apprehend 501.00
Montahlia 501.00
Pompeyano 501.00
Triple Honour 501.00
Berlioz 501.00
Basaltico 501.00
Right Fong 501.00
Crocodile Canyon 501.00
Jeuneys End 501.00
Golden Charmer 501.00
Home On A Wing 501.00
Miles Above 501.00
Nothin Leica Cat 501.00
Phaze Action 501.00
Saint Encosta 501.00
Avienus 501.00
Gothic Crown 1,001.00
Niptious 1,001.00
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[JK]

Still a week for something to change the thought, but Im still finding it hard to go past Shocking.

Missed most of the races today (from what I saw on the news tonight, Zipping looked to finish out the Plate well), was Precedence's run impressive?

[CK]

Precedence won fairly well but was under vigorous riding over the last 200m. Not entirely sure he will get the 3200m. REALLY not convinced So You Think will either, for that matter, if he ran. Brilliant 2040m. Another 1160m is a big ask. Not sure, at his stage of career and being an entire, that he can switch off and relax enough for that extra distance, and THEN find the necessary sprint down a long Flemington straight. Would really be prepared to risk him.

[Felch]

I think the opposite CK. So You Think will get the 3200m easy, and will blow them away if they run him. Winning a Melbourne Cup is not going to increase his stud value anymore though, and connections wont risk a run in the Cup if he is not completely 100%.

Zipping looks some value in early Cup markets, his run home was good in Plate.

[dodgingandweaving]

SYT had had enough at the end of 2040m and he was under the persuader.


SHOOT OUT is a massive chance in the Mlb Cup... Massive, massive chance.

[dodgingandweaving]

I think the opposite CK. So You Think will get the 3200m easy, and will blow them away if they run him. Winning a Melbourne Cup is not going to increase his stud value anymore though, and connections wont risk a run in the Cup if he is not completely 100%.

Zipping looks some value in early Cup markets, his run home was good in Plate.

Zipping's had two tries at the Melb Cup and just doens't get the 3200m.
He might be going better this time, and a year older but I doubt he'll run the 3200m.

My top 4 - Shoot out, Shocking, Americain, Profiund Beauty.

[brent-]

SYT had had enough at the end of 2040m and he was under the persuader.


SHOOT OUT is a massive chance in the Mlb Cup... Massive, massive chance.

Hope so. I put a stack on Shoot Out EW at over 50's last week

[mighty_tiger_79]

whobe came from 2nd last to run 3rd and shoot out wasnt that far ahead of him and shoot out made some nice late ground in the cox plate

[G]

Let me weigh this up.

CK's knowledge about racehorses VERSUS BART's ability to get horses to run 2 miles ????
-mmmmmm thats a hard one so let me think about it for a few days

[CK]

Let me weigh this up.

CK's knowledge about racehorses VERSUS BART's ability to get horses to run 2 miles ????
-mmmmmm thats a hard one so let me think about it for a few days

Ahhh, yes, G, but at least I put my thoughts on the line, and don't wait until after the event before putting things up, unlike some people.

By the way, Bart said last night that he was not looking toward a Cup start for the horse this year, unless he runs in the Mackinnon and is very impressive in doing so.

[G]

Although Im not a fan of posting who or what Im on because no one is interested and I unlike many others on here, Im not after glory just cash in the pocket

But just for you CK, I backed So You Think @ $5.80 to win the Cup before yesterday's Cox Plate.

[JK]

Although Im not a fan of posting who or what Im on because no one is interested and I unlike many others on here, Im not after glory just cash in the pocket

Much easier to sit in the bushes and take shots from a distance huh lol

[mighty_tiger_79]

MELBOURNE CUP THIRD DECLARATIONS IN ORDER OF ENTRY

Final declarations, final field of 24, barrier draw Saturday

1 SO YOU THINK J B Cummings 56kg

2 DESCARADO Ms G Waterhouse 54kg

3 SHOCKING M Kavanagh 57kg

4 SHOOT OUT J Wallace 55kg

5 METAL BENDER C Waller 56kg

6 CAMPANOLOGIST S bin Suroor 56kg

7 ZIPPING R Hickmott 55.5kg

8 MONACO CONSUL M Moroney 54kg

9 PROFOUND BEAUTY D Weld 54kg

10 MR MEDICI P Ho 55kg

11 FAINT PERFUME J B Cummings 52kg

12 ILLUSTRIOUS BLUE W Knight 55kg

13 TOKAI TRICK K Nonaka 54.5kg

14 AMERICAIN A de Royer Dupre 54.5kg

15 DARIANA J B Cummings 51.5kg

16 ONCE WERE WILD Ms G Waterhouse 51.5kg

17 ZAVITE A Cummings 54kg

18 HARRIS TWEED B and M Baker 54kg

19 MASTER O'REILLY D O'Brien 54kg

20 C'EST LA GUERRE R Hickmott 54kg

21 MANIGHAR L Cumani 54kg

22 BUCCELLATI A Noonan 54kg

23 JESSICABEEL J O'Shea 52.5kg

24 BAUER L Cumani 53.5kg

25 RED RULER J Sargent 53.5kg

26 PRECEDENCE J B Cummings 53.5kg

27 MOURAYAN R Hickmott 53.5kg

28 HERCULIAN PRINCE Ms G Waterhouse 53.5kg

29 ALCOPOP J Stephens 53.5kg

30 LINTON R Hickmott 52kg

31 HOLBERG S bin Suroor 53.5kg

32 DRUNKEN SAILOR L Cumani 53kg

33 EASTERN ARIA M Johnston 51.5kg

34 NO WINE NO SONG K Moses 53kg

35 CAPECOVER P Payne 52.5kg

36 VALDEMORO A Vasil 50kg

37 ABOVE AVERAGE L Freedman 51.5kg

38 MOUDRE C Maher 51kg

39 EXCEPTIONALLY T and K O'Sullivan 50kg

40 MALUCKYDAY J, W, and M Hawkes 50kg

41 CEDARBERG P Carey 50kg

42 MR CHARLIE P Moody 50kg

43 SEA GALLEON Colin and Cindy Alderson 50kg

Not passed first ballot clause

44 COUNT ENCOSTA J Thompson 50kg

45 STANSTILL M Kent 50kg

46 MY BENTLEY M Kent 50kg

47 GOTHIC CROWN T Balfour 50kg

[Dogmatic]

Emirates Melbourne Cup Field Narrows
25 Oct 2010

With the winner of the G1 Longines Mackinnon Stakes (2000m) and G3 The Lexus Stakes (2500m), exempt from the Melbourne Cup ballot, the UK stayer’s fate will be in the hands of others.

If the winner of either race is ranked 25th – 47th then they will jump ahead of Bauer, thus leaving the Luca Cumani stable to sweat on withdrawals prior to the final declarations
deadline at 5pm on Saturday.

Unlike a number of their rivals, Bauer and the Godolphin-owned pair Holberg (31st) and Eastern Aria (33rd) are unable to further their claims for a start this weekend as their
post-arrival quarantine period does not conclude until Cup Eve.

The trio are in training at the Werribee International Horse Centre alongside seven internationals that are guaranteed a start in the race.

They are Campanologist (6th), Profound Beauty (9th), Mr Medici (10th), Illustrious Blue (12th), Tokai Trick (13th), Americain (14th) and Manighar (21st).

The key runners outside the top 24 at present are Precedence (26th), Herculian Prince (28th), Alcopop (29th), Linton (30th), Drunken Sailor (32nd) and Moudre (38th), all of whom are nominated for The Lexus on Saturday.

A total of 22 Melbourne Cup third acceptors are nominated for The Lexus meaning the race to gain a start in that $250,000 qualifier is just as fierce as the one for the 150th Melbourne Cup itself.

[Dutchy]

I agree with CK, SYT will not run the 3200m IMO. Getting more and more confident about Shocking and Manighar every day.

[dodgingandweaving]

It would be absolutely astonishing if SYT won the Cup.

An early 4yo with a decent weight on his back, tackling two miles for the first time in his career.

At the end of 2040m in the Cox Plate, I thought it looked like SYT had had enough.

Brings a lot of value to punters who think he can't win.

But if Bart says he can win it, I wouldn't be surprised if he did - but it would be an incredible feat.

[lebron]

A few points FWIW. I'm going triple m each way, manighar, mr medici and monaco consul. Got on them all three weeks ago, medici at 81s from memory. I also backed dariana but not so keen now. I believe SYT and Zipping to not place! I really think if Shocking gets a run, even 12 wide around the home turn, he is hard to beat, i just dont like short odds for the MC!

[Johno6]

so am i the only one going across?
if so i need some real hot tips for all races guys!

please....

[Pat Malone]

I am heading over Friday for Derby Day and Melb Cup also.

[steiger]

I'll be watching Profound Beauty win the cup from the comfort of the Grand Tasman Hotel front bar