Melbourne Cup 2010 Tips & Discussion

[Johno6]

Have been lucky enough to do some work involving the trainer and jock of Shoot Out.

Stathi is supremely confident for the Melbourne Cup, and I agree - I think the wet track of the Caulfield Cup might tax a few of the rival horses.

John Wallace said Shoot Out WILL run first three in the Cox Plate.

Make of it what you will, but I agree.

With the passing of the kat now dodge.... is this still a sure thing for top 3?
who will ride it now?

[dodgingandweaving]

Have been lucky enough to do some work involving the trainer and jock of Shoot Out.

Stathi is supremely confident for the Melbourne Cup, and I agree - I think the wet track of the Caulfield Cup might tax a few of the rival horses.

John Wallace said Shoot Out WILL run first three in the Cox Plate.

Make of it what you will, but I agree.

With the passing of the kat now dodge.... is this still a sure thing for top 3?
who will ride it now?

Who knows what they will do. I'm sure Stathi would've wanted them to find a new rider and get him home.
Unbelievable.

[Brodlach]

Have been lucky enough to do some work involving the trainer and jock of Shoot Out.

Stathi is supremely confident for the Melbourne Cup, and I agree - I think the wet track of the Caulfield Cup might tax a few of the rival horses.

John Wallace said Shoot Out WILL run first three in the Cox Plate.

Make of it what you will, but I agree.

With the passing of the kat now dodge.... is this still a sure thing for top 3?
who will ride it now?

Who knows what they will do. I'm sure Stathi would've wanted them to find a new rider and get him home.
Unbelievable.

Shoot Out to win the Cox Plate now. Amazing how many times someone has passed away then the next runner win. Bruce McLachlans first horse won after he passed away and I remember a race in Queensland where the trainers first runner after he died was about 90/1 and absolutely hopeless on a bog track and came from nowhere on the turn and came down the outside fence to win. It was like he was being pushed through the mud.

[Pat Malone]

Have been lucky enough to do some work involving the trainer and jock of Shoot Out.

Stathi is supremely confident for the Melbourne Cup, and I agree - I think the wet track of the Caulfield Cup might tax a few of the rival horses.

John Wallace said Shoot Out WILL run first three in the Cox Plate.

Make of it what you will, but I agree.

With the passing of the kat now dodge.... is this still a sure thing for top 3?
who will ride it now?

Who knows what they will do. I'm sure Stathi would've wanted them to find a new rider and get him home.
Unbelievable.

Shoot Out to win the Cox Plate now. Amazing how many times someone has passed away then the next runner win. Bruce McLachlans first horse won after he passed away and I remember a race in Queensland where the trainers first runner after he died was about 90/1 and absolutely hopeless on a bog track and came from nowhere on the turn and came down the outside fence to win. It was like he was being pushed through the mud.

Enter Media Puzzle and Damian Oliver (following brothers tragic fall)

[CK]

Americain now at $11 after carrying the highest weight for a Geelong Cup winner (58kg) in 44 years.

The Cumani galloper Drunken Sailor's spring campaign may already be over, after copping a heavy check before the turn, and returning to scale with a bleeding front hoof - the same injury that kept him out of last week's Caulfield Cup.

[Dutchy]

[Dutchy]

Americain now at $11 after carrying the highest weight for a Geelong Cup winner (58kg) in 44 years.

The Cumani galloper Drunken Sailor's spring campaign may already be over, after copping a heavy check before the turn, and returning to scale with a bleeding front hoof - the same injury that kept him out of last week's Caulfield Cup.

Americain had the softest run of the race and still only just hung on, will finish nowhere in the cup

[dodgingandweaving]

Americain now at $11 after carrying the highest weight for a Geelong Cup winner (58kg) in 44 years.

The Cumani galloper Drunken Sailor's spring campaign may already be over, after copping a heavy check before the turn, and returning to scale with a bleeding front hoof - the same injury that kept him out of last week's Caulfield Cup.

Americain had the softest run of the race and still only just hung on, will finish nowhere in the cup

Couldn't disagree more Dutchy.
Big weight, and IMO wasn't a bad Geelong Cup field.

- Only found clear room in the final 100m.
- First run in Australia, can only improve.
- Will drop considerably in weight.
- Wasn't knocked around in the run, like you said has it VERY easy.

[mighty_tiger_79]

havent seen replay but first impressions was winner did a good job to sprint when it did get out with that weight. Chances are it wont get a penalty for the cup so the drop in weight will suit it ideally

[brent-83]

havent seen replay but first impressions was winner did a good job to sprint when it did get out with that weight. Chances are it wont get a penalty for the cup so the drop in weight will suit it ideally

I am sure it will get a penalty, probably just not a large one.

FWIW the rails and the inside barrier had considerable bias yesterday. Think Americain was a good run but I think the price it has come into is crazy and wouldn't have it in the top 5 for the cup just yet.

[mighty_tiger_79]

2010 Melbourne Cup (All In) - Win Offer Win Price Place Price

548939 ABOVE AVERAGE 301.00 76.00
548940 AJHAR 401.00 101.00
548944 ALCOPOP 23.00 6.50
548946 AMERICAIN 13.00 4.00
548950 APPREHEND 501.00 126.00
548952 AVIENUS 501.00 126.00
548955 BASALTICO 2001.00 501.00
548957 BAUER 35.00 9.50
548958 BECQU ADOREE 501.00 126.00
548959 BERLIOZ 2501.00 661.00
548965 BUCCELLATI 251.00 67.00
548967 C'EST LA GUERRE 41.00 11.00
548968 CAMPANOLOGIST 67.00 18.00
548969 CAPECOVER 401.00 101.00
548972 CEDARBERG 81.00 21.00
548978 COUNT ENCOSTA 501.00 126.00
548979 CROCODILE CANYON 1251.00 331.00
548983 DARIANA 34.00 9.50
548985 DESCARADO 15.00 4.50
548986 DOCTOR FREMANTLE 1001.00 251.00
548989 DRUNKEN SAILOR 51.00 14.00
548993 EASTERN ARIA 61.00 16.00
549001 EXCEPTIONALLY 81.00 21.00
549003 FAINT PERFUME 31.00 8.50
549011 GET UP JUDE 1001.00 251.00
549014 GOLDEN CHARMER 5001.00 1251.00
549017 GOTHIC CROWN 10000.00 2501.00
549020 HARRIS TWEED 26.00 7.25
549022 HERCULIAN PRINCE 41.00 11.00
549025 HOLBERG 23.00 6.50
549027 HOME ON A WING 5001.00 1251.00
549029 ILLUSTRIOUS BLUE 61.00 16.00
549036 JESSICABEEL 51.00 14.00
549037 JEUNEYS END 2501.00 661.00
549057 LINTON 18.00 5.25
549066 MALUCKYDAY 35.00 9.50
549067 MANIGHAR 16.00 4.80
549071 MASTER O'REILLY 151.00 41.00
549075 METAL BENDER 71.00 19.00
549076 MILES ABOVE 2501.00 661.00
549080 MONACO CONSUL 16.00 4.80
549082 MONTAHLIA 2001.00 501.00
549085 MOUDRE 41.00 11.00
549086 MOURAYAN 81.00 21.00
549087 MR CHARLIE 126.00 33.00
549088 MR MEDICI 35.00 9.50
549089 MUIR 1001.00 251.00
549090 MY BENTLEY 201.00 51.00
549096 NIPTIOUS 10000.00 2501.00
549098 NO WINE NO SONG 501.00 126.00
549099 NOTHIN' LEICA CAT 661.00 171.00
549104 ONCE WERE WILD 151.00 41.00
549111 PERSIAN STAR 1001.00 251.00
549113 PHAZE ACTION 10000.00 2501.00
549115 POMPEYANO 501.00 126.00
549116 PRECEDENCE 26.00 7.25
549117 PROFOUND BEAUTY 21.00 6.00
549123 RED RULER 501.00 126.00
549126 RIGHT FONG 1001.00 251.00
549130 RUNDLE 301.00 76.00
549131 SAINT ENCOSTA 5001.00 1251.00
549137 SEA GALLEON 661.00 171.00
549141 SHOCKING 5.00 2.00
549142 SHOOT OUT 21.00 6.00
549148 SO YOU THINK 5.50 2.15
549153 STANSTILL 1001.00 251.00
549155 STERLING PRINCE 601.00 151.00
549164 THE HOMBRE 501.00 126.00
549168 TOKAI TRICK 36.00 10.00
549171 TRIPLE HONOUR 501.00 126.00
549177 VALDEMORO 201.00 51.00
549179 VIGOR 126.00 33.00
549189 ZANTELAGH 201.00 51.00
549190 ZAVITE 67.00 18.00
549191 ZIPPING 34.00 9.50

[mighty_tiger_79]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/ame ... 5941780774

not too sure Americain can win the cup now with the penalty

[Dutchy]

havent seen replay

Look up a few posts

[dodgingandweaving]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/americain-cops-hefty-cup-penalty/story-e6frecj3-1225941780774

not too sure Americain can win the cup now with the penalty

MT MT MT MT MT!!

0.5kg penalty and now he can't win the Cup?
He needed that penalty jsut to ensure he got a run.

Drops plenty from his Geelong Cup run and will only improve for his second run on our shores.

I'm all over him.

[mighty_tiger_79]

he cant win it now Dodgy

[dodgingandweaving]

he cant win it now Dodgy

Why? 0.5kg?

[mighty_tiger_79]

cos Manighar will beat it home better off at the weights

[dodgingandweaving]

cos Manighar will beat it home better off at the weights

Agree to some extent.
I give them both big chances.

Americain beat Manighar with 1kg less last encounter.
But.... debatable who had the better run in that race.

[Mop Up]

Obviously amazing run by SYT, did it with ease, so so good to watch BUT any queries at how it was being run down and its chances of running the 3200 at the cup?? Unproven at the distance obviously, yet $4 fave

Thought Zippings run was impressive, and its run in the Turnbull. Seems good value at $26. Is it qualified?

[mighty_tiger_79]

dunno but get on ew