Jockey Challenge

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Symons picks up two very good rides.... Well done boys! Big chance.

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FORMER top riders Simon Marshall and John Letts say rules around jockeys' challenge betting should be tightened to avoid a repeat of the "price-plunge" scenario at Morphettville on Saturday.

Stewards yesterday requested information from six betting agencies as investigations continued into the circumstances around Paul Gatt being backed from $21 into $2.40 favouritism in Saturday's Adelaide jockeys' challenge.

Gatt replaced an ill Chad Lever on well-fancied Tropic Thunder and Outlandish Lad and many of the bets are believed to have been placed before the change of riders was officially notified.

Gatt eventually finished tied on points for first in the challenge with Claudia Lions, Amy Herrmann and Todd Pannell.

Marshall and Letts said jockeys' challenge betting was always susceptible to "inside information" and was a "buyer beware" scenario for wagering agencies.

But both said the rules could be tightened to provide a fairer punting environment.

"Betting agencies are left open to this type of thing but the integrity of the racing industry has to be protected," multiple Group 1-winner Marshall said.

"I'm sure it's just a case of having to tighten the rules up.

"In unusual circumstances like these - where the game is potentially going to be brought into disrepute - maybe it's just that punters need to be given a refund and the challenge deemed null and void."

Letts said it was unfortunate the reputation of Lever would be open to question while the inquiry continued.

He said betting agencies should prohibit betting on the jockeys' challenge until an hour before the first race.

"Chad Lever gets limited opportunities because of his weight and he's going for back-to-back premierships, which is something any jockey would want on their resume," Letts said.

"He had a couple of really good rides on Saturday and you're not going to give that up unless you really are ill.

"The best way to avoid this situation would be to not open the jockeys' challenge until an hour before the first race.

"That way if someone pulls out, the replacements should be known before the markets go up."

Another promiment racing insider - who did not want to be named - said the "all-in" nature of jockeys' challenge betting was patently unfair to punters.

"If jockeys pull out after the market has opened, like Chad Lever did, the people who have backed them do their money because it's all-in," the source said.

"It should be like a horse being scratched.

"So long as you've backed it after acceptances your bet is refunded."

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In that instance would all bets be cancelled by Sportingbet?

Im sure they would have cancelled all bets, its only Unitab that seems to be all in betting.

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It works both ways....
Punters get stung sometimes, and bookies get stung sometimes.

Stupid thing for Lettsy and Marshall to say.

What about if you backed Newitt today?

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didnt someone clarify all this a while ago? because I was of the same opinion that the corporates cancelled but it doesnt sound like it in the story.
AG is lying low, after his last run in with stewards he now has nothing to do with TRSA as an owner.

[mighty_tiger_79]

well, it would be fair to say that all the bookies will be looking at ways to make the JC's easier for them to manage and minimise liablility in light of this case

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didnt someone clarify all this a while ago? because I was of the same opinion that the corporates cancelled but it doesnt sound like it in the story.
AG is lying low, after his last run in with stewards he now has nothing to do with TRSA as an owner.

Im sure its not the corprate bookmakers as such, its Unitabs sports betting section.

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Symons does nothing on the fave

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Could be one of those days

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If Shinn, Bell or Stokes can win here it will keep things interesting for last two races.

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Shinn wins, but gotta say he is gone.

Shinn 8
Brown 6

Brown on the last two faves.

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Arnold Wins

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[WestIndiesWonder24]

Hey lads just got home...

Only put 2 JC on today at Rocky

Speers and A.Butler

Whats the chances havent seen any racing today

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Shinn dodges a Brown bullet with just one pt on fave..

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Arnold again, backed all his rides outright today rather than take the $3 on JC, so makes up for Symons disappointing effort.

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Hey lads just got home...

Only put 2 JC on today at Rocky

Speers and A.Butler

Whats the chances havent seen any racing today

also very interested to see how these 2 jocks went

[mighty_tiger_79]

Rockhampton Jockey Challenge - 3,2,1 Points
Betting Closes: 18 May 2010 12:10

7 Race(s) completed.


Jockey 1 st 2nd 3rd Points
M Speers 2 0 2 8.00
Other Unlisted Jockey - A COOME 1 1 0 5.00
B Pengelly 1 1 0 5.00
L Dillon 0 1 2 4.00
C McIver 1 0 0 3.00
D Simmons 1 0 0 3.00
H Ohara 0 1 0 2.00
A Butler 0 1 0 2.00



Rockhampton Jockey Challenge - 3,2,1 Points
Betting Closes: 18 May 2010 12:10

Dead heat rules apply. Listed riders must complete one ride for bet to stand.


Jockey
L Dillon 1.90
A Butler 5.00
M Speers 7.00
Any Other Unlisted Rider 9.50
C Mciver 10.00
D Simmons 12.00
B Pengelly 19.00
H Ohara 31.00

[mighty_tiger_79]

Speers wins

[mighty_tiger_79]

Arnold again, backed all his rides outright today rather than take the $3 on JC, so makes up for Symons disappointing effort.

i think this type of betting is also worth looking at, good work CP

[Johno6]

i agree...

i think if they are real short on the JC ya better of lookin at their rides n backing ones u think are chance to score which are paying more than his JC odds if u know what i mean.