NO MORE bring your own grog at Gleobe Derby

[bayman]

when do you ever pay to get in ?




as for the attendance last saturday on the first night of the carnival as mentioned on the 5rph harness show today, that it was the same as it has been for the last few years, i doubt there will be much difference this week either, this week it is an 'event' just like the adelaide cup at angle park or the adelaide & melbourne cup days at morphettville & they get the crowds & there is no eskies allowed there......now if half the crowd don't go it will make it easier to get a bet on

[mal]

Esky rules
Eskys are permitted
No Alcohol
Soft drinks and Food is permitted

Which raises the question
IF grog was banned becoz GDP also sells it, why can the public bring in soft drinks and food ?
They sell food and soft drinks on course as well
GDP recently banned Pilko the pastry man, was that becoz he was selling food in competetion with GDP ?

IF alcohol was banned because of the potential of unruly behavour, then that is understandable

ANGLE PARK
Angle Park dogs had a ban made a little while ago
You cannot bring and eat your own food in the upstairs area
One dog trainer was evicted becoz they were eating Subway
The absurdity of this was the food choices, mostly on course grilled fatty choices and a lack of healthy food
If i asked for a Green tea and organic veges or tofu , would I get that ?
We had a situation of a dog trainer who brought in his own speciallised food for his son who was a sporting talent
The lad had to eat a designated diet as he was in training
As the story goes, he was told not to bring in his sons tucker
His reply was his son was not allowed to eat from the on course menu
Hmmmnnnn food for thought

QUESTION
SO I wonder if GDP will eventually ban the bringing in of foods as well ?

[bayman]

mal, who was in charge of the dogs when they introduced that 'policy change' ?

mal, who is in charge of gdp now that has made that policy change ?


as for pilko he still goes, he parks at the 'archway' entrance, although last week he was at the main entrance gate

[mighty_tiger_79]

depnds on who you mean in charge?

Ali was in CEO of the dogs at the time, Smith was the operations manager

mind you I never had any issues when i took my own food to the wed morning meetings

[G]

How was the crowd tonight ????

I thought it looked down a fair bit on previous years judging by how far the crowd stretched down the home straight and it wasnt as dense as yesteryear etc. It was only a few years ago the crowd was thick and went right back to the home bend.

I'll be interested to hear the official party line they put out in regards to the effect the booze ban had on the crowd.

[bayman]

How was the crowd tonight ????

I thought it looked down a fair bit on previous years judging by how far the crowd stretched down the home straight and it wasnt as dense as yesteryear etc. It was only a few years ago the crowd was thick and went right back to the home bend.

I'll be interested to hear the official party line they put out in regards to the effect the booze ban had on the crowd.

i'd say it was down, it was definately easier to get a bet on than in previous years, i think the fact that the basketball & more so the cricket was on would not have helped the crowd


hey G, after the last with the band playing i noticed centreman, cheify & a couple of others bopping to abba & after the fireworks those two plus the great genius, fev 25 & a few other familiar faces were bopping to status quo's ''rockin' allover the world''

[vicgirl]

damn it i didnt see the pie man last night was he there?

[bayman]

damn it i didnt see the pie man last night was he there?

yes he was, he gets there around 8.15 pm on saturday nights & actually i've just put them on for the evening meal


ps, was that you wearing black pants last night ? (i thought it was but wasn't sure so i didn't come up to say hi & introduce myself)

[mal]

How was the crowd tonight ????

I thought it looked down a fair bit on previous years judging by how far the crowd stretched down the home straight and it wasnt as dense as yesteryear etc. It was only a few years ago the crowd was thick and went right back to the home bend.

I'll be interested to hear the official party line they put out in regards to the effect the booze ban had on the crowd.

POSSIBLE REASONS FOR LESS CROWD THIS YEAR
Grog Ban,I know of several people that didnt go becoz of the esky grog ban
Some people would have gone to the SA V VI big bash to see Rashid and the boys, or watched on Foxtel
Perhaps Tattsbet betting set odds every race had an affect ?

Whichever way we look at it
Grog ban = less people
Grog Ban = does not mean extra people will roll up coz its banned

[vicgirl]

yep i was wearing black pants, So where does he usually go might have to make a trip down again saturday

[bayman]

yep i was wearing black pants, So where does he usually go might have to make a trip down again saturday

now i know for sure it was you i will come up & say hi next week then & he (pilko) sets up at the 'archway entrance' near the float car park

[Felch]

As someone who goes to the trots at Globe Derby 2-3 times year, and has taken my own grog there on quite a few occasions, my first reaction to the ban was that it was a stupid move. I would have thought that the powers-that-be would want to attract more people to the trots, not turn away the few that already go.

BUT, after going there Saturday night for the SA Cup and thinking about the whole thing a bit more, i look at things this way now -
How much money does GDP actually make from people like me attending the trots ? I bring my own grog and food usually, so i buy nothing there. Worst case (or best case for GDP) i might drop a couple of hundred on the punt, but what percentage/cut does GDP get from that ? Not a whole lot im guessing. From a financial point of view, i can see where they are coming from. Long term, they need to change the mindset of the people turning up to GDP - not going to be easy, maybe even impossible.

Things are a far cry from what it used to be like out there on Saturday nights 15 years ago, thats for sure.

[mighty_tiger_79]

i think on course turn over % is around 14%

happy to be corrected

[mal]

As someone who goes to the trots at Globe Derby 2-3 times year, and has taken my own grog there on quite a few occasions, my first reaction to the ban was that it was a stupid move. I would have thought that the powers-that-be would want to attract more people to the trots, not turn away the few that already go.

BUT, after going there Saturday night for the SA Cup and thinking about the whole thing a bit more, i look at things this way now -
How much money does GDP actually make from people like me attending the trots ? I bring my own grog and food usually, so i buy nothing there. Worst case (or best case for GDP) i might drop a couple of hundred on the punt, but what percentage/cut does GDP get from that ? Not a whole lot im guessing. From a financial point of view, i can see where they are coming from. Long term, they need to change the mindset of the people turning up to GDP - not going to be easy, maybe even impossible.

Things are a far cry from what it used to be like out there on Saturday nights 15 years ago, thats for sure.

$5 admission[$10 cup night]
If you turnover $200 on the tab the club gets approx 10 +% commissions [$20]
Thats $30 already Cup night
Imagine if an extra 500 people rolled up and did that

The club has stated that the grog ruling is in line with all other courses, except Oakbank
But clubs need to attract crowds
Perhaps an innovative race club in the future will advertise to BYO grog and tucker, and maybe attract regular crowds

IF Oakbank banned eskys, It would be suicidal