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Port/Roos - time for another Bitch slap?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:12 am
by Dutchy
Well its on tomorrow and as Port Power are our bitches (13-3 :lol: :lol: ) and everyone in teal is still going on about last week (its 1 week FFS)...could another SHinboner upset be on the cards?

For the Roos VFL Liston winner last year Aaron Edwards is in, so very much looking forward to seeing him play and provide a target up forward...unfortuantely its at the expense of Matty Campbell, but a forward had to miss for Edwards to be in.

ANy other thoughts?

Re: Port/Roos - time for another Bitch slap?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:24 am
by PortAdelaideProud
Dutchy wrote:Well its on tomorrow and as Port Power are our bitches (13-3 :lol: :lol: ) and everyone in teal is still going on about last week (its 1 week FFS)...could another SHinboner upset be on the cards?

For the Roos VFL Liston winner last year Aaron Edwards is in, so very much looking forward to seeing him play and provide a target up forward...unfortuantely its at the expense of Matty Campbell, but a forward had to miss for Edwards to be in.

ANy other thoughts?


Yep. The Power are going North Melbourne Kangaroo hunting tomorrow.

Seriously, I will be shocked if we lose.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:26 am
by Dutchy
well you have been shocked 13 times before :lol: :lol:

heres some trivia - who is the only team Port Pwer did not beat in their premiership year?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:32 am
by Rik E Boy
Is this a brave or stupid thread? Hmmmm :-k

regards,

REB

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:38 am
by Dutchy
Rik E Boy wrote:Is this a brave or stupid thread? Hmmmm :-k

regards,

REB


whats the worst that could happen? we lose as predicited but still hold a 77% winning record against them! 8)

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:32 am
by Hondo
The Kangas record over the Power is one of those interesting stats largely driven by the fact that in Port's early days (1997-2001), the Kanagaroos were one of the power teams in the comp (altho even last year the Kangas upset Port at home). The result in the 2005 finals series (Port by plenty in Melbourne) should have buried some of the history. However, Chad Cornes did acknowledge on radio during the week that the Kangas do match up well on them due to their high-quality tagging crew.

Port still have a young side which will be a bit up and down this year so they shouldn't assume tomorrow will be an automatic win even tho I have tipped Port myself.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:57 am
by carey18
I no someone will but i wouldnt mind seeing what our recent record is over the last 4 to 5 years. I think we have done ok agaisnt the almighty power!.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:19 pm
by Dutchy
hondo71 wrote:The Kangas record over the Power is one of those interesting stats largely driven by the fact that in Port's early days (1997-2001), the Kanagaroos were one of the power teams in the comp (altho even last year the Kangas upset Port at home). The result in the 2005 finals series (Port by plenty in Melbourne) should have buried some of the history. However, Chad Cornes did acknowledge on radio during the week that the Kangas do match up well on them due to their high-quality tagging crew.

Port still have a young side which will be a bit up and down this year so they shouldn't assume tomorrow will be an automatic win even tho I have tipped Port myself.


what a load of dribble...be back with some stats

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:26 pm
by Dutchy
LAST 10 meetings -

# Year Rd Team Score Versus Score Gnd Result Marg
1 2006 18 Kangaroos 12.12 (84) vs Port Adel 9.11 (65) TD WON 19
2 2006 1 Kangaroos 19.14 (128) vs Port Adel 13.9 (87) AAMI WON 41
3 2005 1EF Kangaroos 11.11 (77) vs Port Adel 26.8 (164) TD Lost -87
4 2005 18 Kangaroos 15.10 (100) vs Port Adel 14.12 (96) Man WON 4
5 2005 7 Kangaroos 10.12 (72) vs Port Adel 18.11 (119) AAMI Lost -47
6 2004 8 Kangaroos 21.14 (140) vs Port Adel 7.6 (48) TD WON 92
7 2003 8 Kangaroos 7.7 (49) vs Port Adel 15.13 (103) AAMI Lost -54
8 2002 16 Kangaroos 14.15 (99) vs Port Adel 10.10 (70) OO WON 29
9 2002 1 Kangaroos 12.11 (83) vs Port Adel 11.7 (73) AAMI WON 10
10 2001 13 Kangaroos 14.11 (95) vs Port Adel 10.13 (73) Man WON 22


Thats a 7-3 record since 2001, still a dominating record I would have thought...many of those since 2001 the Roos have been Underdogs...remmebr Port have been a fair side in this period also...

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:32 pm
by Hondo
HA 1997 8 W 28 Kang 19-14-128 Port Ad 15-10-100 Princes Park 13,056 17-05-1997 14:00
HA 1998 3 W 29 Port Ad 10-9-69 Kang 15-8-98 AAMI Stadium 28,167 11-04-1998 20:00
HA 1998 18 W 55 Kang 18-23-131 Port Ad 10-16-76 Manuka Oval 11,321 01-08-1998 11:00
HA 1999 10 W 7 Kang 20-13-133 Port Ad 18-18-126 MCG 16,429 06-06-1999 14:00
FIN 1999 QF W 44 Kang 15-10-100 Port Ad 8-8-56 MCG 31,476 04-09-1999 14:00
HA 2000 12 W 17 Kang 10-16-76 Port Ad 8-11-59 SCG 7,334 28-05-2000 14:10
HA 2001 13 W 22 Kang 14-11-95 Port Ad 10-13-73 Manuka Oval 10,030 30-06-2001 14:10
HA 2002 1 W 10 Port Ad 11-7-73 Kang 12-11-83 AAMI Stadium 28,578 30-03-2002 19:10
HA 2002 16 W 29 Kang 14-15-99 Port Ad 10-10-70 Princes Park 9,398 20-07-2002 14:10

HA 2003 8 L 54 Port Ad 15-13-103 Kang 7-7-49 AAMI Stadium 24,702 17-05-2003 14:10
HA 2004 8 W 92 Kang 21-14-140 Port Ad 7-6-48 Telstra Dome 16,910 16-05-2004 14:10
HA 2005 7 L 47 Port Ad 18-11-119 Kang 10-12-72 AAMI Stadium 27,050 08-05-2005 14:10
HA 2005 18 W 4 Kang 15-10-100 Port Ad 14-12-96 Manuka Oval 10,431 31-07-2005 13:10
FIN 2005 EF L 87 Kang 11-11-77 Port Ad 26-8-164 Telstra Dome 25,195 04-09-2005 14:30
HA 2006 1 W 41 Port Ad 13-9-87 Kang 19-14-128 AAMI Stadium 27,680 01-04-2006 19:10
HA 2006 18 W 19 Kang 12-12-84 Port Ad 9-11-65 Telstra Dome 14,815 06-08-2006 14:10


1997 - 2002: Kangaroos 9, Power 0
2003 - 2006: Kangaroos 4, Power 3

(by the end of 2002, Kangas had played in finals in 9 of the prev 10 seasons)

Port slowly evening things up Dutchy ....

PS You beat me to it!! :)

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:56 pm
by Macca19
Weve only ever played the Roos 5 times at Footy Park, compared to 13 times away. Of the Roos first 9 wins in a row, only 2 of those matches were played in Adelaide.

The W/L record may be lopsided, but so has the scheduling.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:27 pm
by Dutchy
Macca19 wrote:Weve only ever played the Roos 5 times at Footy Park, compared to 13 times away. Of the Roos first 9 wins in a row, only 2 of those matches were played in Adelaide.

The W/L record may be lopsided, but so has the scheduling.


bit of straw clutching there, if you want to analyse that we are still 3-2 at games at AAMI, plus we have a great record at AAMI also against the Crows so we would have loved more here....plus there have only been 7 true "Home" games at our home ground...teh 92 point thumping in your preiership years stands out like a sore thumb

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:03 pm
by Hondo
Dutchy wrote:
Macca19 wrote:Weve only ever played the Roos 5 times at Footy Park, compared to 13 times away. Of the Roos first 9 wins in a row, only 2 of those matches were played in Adelaide.

The W/L record may be lopsided, but so has the scheduling.


bit of straw clutching there, if you want to analyse that we are still 3-2 at games at AAMI, plus we have a great record at AAMI also against the Crows so we would have loved more here....plus there have only been 7 true "Home" games at our home ground...teh 92 point thumping in your preiership years stands out like a sore thumb


Crows are 8 from 14 against the Kangaroos at AAMI Stadium.

HA 1991 24 W 73 Adel 28-12-180 Kang 16-11-107 AAMI Stadium 36,220 01-09-1991 14:10
HA 1992 11 W 35 Adel 21-16-142 Kang 16-11-107 AAMI Stadium 36,312 31-05-1992 14:10
HA 1993 8 W 2 Adel 19-9-123 Kang 18-13-121 AAMI Stadium 45,562 16-05-1993 17:08
HA 1995 16 W 11 Adel 9-11-65 Kang 7-12-54 AAMI Stadium 34,301 21-07-1995 20:00
HA 1996 20 L 6 Adel 10-10-70 Kang 10-16-76 AAMI Stadium 33,030 17-08-1996 20:00
HA 1997 12 L 22 Adel 12-11-83 Kang 16-9-105 AAMI Stadium 43,345 15-06-1997 14:00
HA 1998 21 L 13 Adel 13-14-92 Kang 14-21-105 AAMI Stadium 43,297 22-08-1998 20:00
HA 1999 22 L 76 Adel 8-18-66 Kang 22-10-142 AAMI Stadium 37,662 29-08-1999 13:00
HA 2000 9 L 3 Adel 19-11-125 Kang 19-14-128 AAMI Stadium 40,402 06-05-2000 19:10
HA 2001 5 W 15 Adel 12-18-90 Kang 10-15-75 AAMI Stadium 37,596 28-04-2001 19:10
HA 2003 21 L 10 Adel 10-4-64 Kang 9-20-74 AAMI Stadium 42,259 23-08-2003 14:10
HA 2004 18 W 7 Adel 5-19-49 Kang 5-12-42 AAMI Stadium 37,562 30-07-2004 20:10
HA 2005 6 W 10 Adel 10-14-74 Kang 10-4-64 AAMI Stadium 41,867 30-04-2005 14:10
HA 2006 16 W 72 Adel 19-10-124 Kang 7-10-52 AAMI Stadium 47,487 21-07-2006 20:10

Like with the stats v Port Adelaide, the Kangaroos earned 5 of their 6 wins in the period 1996-2000 when they were arguably the best team in the comp. They have only won at AAMI once since the year 2000, they have lost the last 3 and lost 4 of the last 5.

The Kangaroos accumulated some great stats in their power years, they were arguably the team of the 90s. But things are evening out in recent years and referencing back to a past era is becoming less and less relevant as time goes on.

I am not a Power supporter so can't believe I am defending them like this - but the Power's big loss in the 2004 home and away season pales, I think, against the 87 point loss inflicted on the Kangaroos in the 2005 finals series.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:29 pm
by Dutchy
still a great record and while I havent got the stats in front of me I believe the best Non SA team record at the ground....I know what your saying about when we were strong BUT Port were pretty good in recent years and Crows werent bad either in the late 90's, also look at the close losses in 4 of the games against the corws since 2001..I know Ive enjoyed many a win at the ground...and hope to tomorrow, but dont expect to :cry:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:47 pm
by Wedgie
You've done it now Dutchy, I would have thought a Bays fan would have learnt a lesson from bitch talk after the way South turned things around last year? :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:47 pm
by Hondo
I have always respected the Kangaroos as an opponent they always give 110%

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:51 pm
by Wedgie
Agreed Hondo.
Hey Dutchy, have you read the Jason McCartney book "After Bali"?
They gave them away for free at North's AGM and Ive just finished reading it, awesome read.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:57 pm
by Dutchy
Wedgie wrote:Agreed Hondo.
Hey Dutchy, have you read the Jason McCartney book "After Bali"?
They gave them away for free at North's AGM and Ive just finished reading it, awesome read.


Yes...its the only book Ive fully read in the last 10 years!...great read..almost feel like you know him like a mate after reading it...

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:00 pm
by Wedgie
Dutchy wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Agreed Hondo.
Hey Dutchy, have you read the Jason McCartney book "After Bali"?
They gave them away for free at North's AGM and Ive just finished reading it, awesome read.


Yes...its the only book Ive fully read in the last 10 years!...great read..almost feel like you know him like a mate after reading it...

Agreed, very moving, I have to find that game on DVD, I'll watch it in an even more awe like way after reading that book.
Probably one of the few AFL games Ive watched in full in the last 10 years.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:01 pm
by Hondo
Wedgie wrote:Agreed Hondo.
Hey Dutchy, have you read the Jason McCartney book "After Bali"?
They gave them away for free at North's AGM and Ive just finished reading it, awesome read.


I saw Jason speak at a work function 2 years ago ... he was articulate, inspiring and great to listen to. He came across as a brave and humble guy and earned everyone's respect (if he needed to do that anyway - prob not). He was even happy to talk footy with a mug like me - spoke openly about the Wayne Carey v Glen Archer situation at the time.