SA Footy

If the AFL big wigs are so obsessed about reducing congestion lets just change game completely , only 3 players from each side inside 50 metre arcs , and 3 players from each side inside the middle third ie 9 players from each side on oval at one time , changes only allowed at breaks or unless player is injured and can take no further part in the game total of 8 players on bench . If a player crosses over the line into another zone shot for goal given to side infriged against from front of goal square . that should up the scoring

Yep agreed. No tackling, no soccering, coach allowed on the field, 10min quarters, that should help as well [emoji849]

Play all games across the ground, lightening carnivals, someone's dad umpires the game.

Lets have 3 way games in a triangle shape

Should play half-court so there's less likely to be injuries and once you touch the ball you have to leave the oval so everyone gets a turn.

Everyone should get 3 Brownlow votes each game so everyone wins a medal on the night so they all get a chance to prepare a speech and get touched by Bruce.

AFL - “we listen to the fans”
Fans- “leave the game alone”
AFL - “can’t hear you, here’s some more rule changes”

woodublieve12 wrote:AFL - “we listen to the fans”
Fans- “leave the game alone”
AFL - “can’t hear you, here’s some more rule changes”

Steve Hocking would be out of a job if he didn't fiddle with the rules.

Armchair expert wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:AFL - “we listen to the fans”
Fans- “leave the game alone”
AFL - “can’t hear you, here’s some more rule changes”

Steve Hocking would be out of a job if he didn't fiddle with the rules.

Not the only thing he fiddles with by the looks of it.

More 50's for an inconsequential ruling/umpires interpretation of a subjective rule, YAY!

I really do wonder if they think these things through as to how they'll be taken by the general football watcher? Ok, obviously not.

gadj1976 wrote:More 50's for an inconsequential ruling/umpires interpretation of a subjective rule, YAY!

I really do wonder if they think these things through as to how they'll be taken by the general football watcher? Ok, obviously not.

Gotta feel for the umps, as they are the ones that cop all the abuse for paying soft 50 metre penalties, but the AFL are the ones that make up these crap rules and get them to enforce them. Players are dumb as dog shit too so they wont learn and there will be dozen 50's paid a game for this!

Armchair expert wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:AFL - “we listen to the fans”
Fans- “leave the game alone”
AFL - “can’t hear you, here’s some more rule changes”

Steve Hocking would be out of a job if he didn't fiddle with the rules.

F#ck me he dribbles some shit.

woodublieve12 wrote:AFL - “we listen to the fans”
Fans- “leave the game alone”
AFL - “can’t hear you, here’s some more rule changes”

Problem is, most of the ones saying leave the game alone are also the ones saying the game is shit, was better in the 80's

Eagles2014 wrote:

gadj1976 wrote:More 50's for an inconsequential ruling/umpires interpretation of a subjective rule, YAY!

I really do wonder if they think these things through as to how they'll be taken by the general football watcher? Ok, obviously not.

Gotta feel for the umps, as they are the ones that cop all the abuse for paying soft 50 metre penalties, but the AFL are the ones that make up these crap rules and get them to enforce them. Players are dumb as dog shit too so they wont learn and there will be dozen 50's paid a game for this!

Yes and no. Yes, I do feel for the umps because they are the front line of the boffins in the office making the stupid rule changes.

Players aren't dumb. They're early to mid 20's at worst (some are 30+) but they've been playing by alternate rules (ie, the ones we know at local level) for the entirety of their football lives so the changes go against most things they are taught. And in my opinion THAT's the problem with the rule changes. They go against what was drummed into these kids being brought into the system.

cracka wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:AFL - “we listen to the fans”
Fans- “leave the game alone”
AFL - “can’t hear you, here’s some more rule changes”

Problem is, most of the ones saying leave the game alone are also the ones saying the game is shit, was better in the 80's

If the rules were left alone, maybe the game would adapt and the game would be better for it. We will never know because they get changed twice/thrice yearly.

gadj1976 wrote:

Eagles2014 wrote:

gadj1976 wrote:More 50's for an inconsequential ruling/umpires interpretation of a subjective rule, YAY!

I really do wonder if they think these things through as to how they'll be taken by the general football watcher? Ok, obviously not.

Gotta feel for the umps, as they are the ones that cop all the abuse for paying soft 50 metre penalties, but the AFL are the ones that make up these crap rules and get them to enforce them. Players are dumb as dog shit too so they wont learn and there will be dozen 50's paid a game for this!

Yes and no. Yes, I do feel for the umps because they are the front line of the boffins in the office making the stupid rule changes.

Players aren't dumb. They're early to mid 20's at worst (some are 30+) but they've been playing by alternate rules (ie, the ones we know at local level) for the entirety of their football lives so the changes go against most things they are taught. And in my opinion THAT's the problem with the rule changes. They go against what was drummed into these kids being brought into the system.

This 50 m law for players moving off the mark will be interesting.

Basically the AFL are trying to stop the team defence, currently if a player looks to run around behind his team mate for to outnumber their opponents on the fat side the defender who was originally marking that players pushes over to the take the mark and the original player on the tries to shut down the payer who has run around to create the over lap before the disposal or the umpire has called play on.

Now if that happens the player on the mark has to wait until the kick or play on has been called thereby creating an overlap, time and space so the attacking team can clear the contest. The original defender will have to run around behind the mark to try and block it off making it harder to do so.

Slight movement sides ways off the mark will be OK. The umpiring key for the 50 m will be if the player on the mark comes off the mark sideways before disposal or play on call to block the attacker trying to play on.

am Bays wrote:
This 50 m law for players moving off the mark will be interesting.

Basically the AFL are trying to stop the team defence, currently if a player looks to run around behind his team mate for to outnumber their opponents on the fat side the defender who was originally marking that players pushes over to the take the mark and the original player on the tries to shut down the payer who has run around to create the over lap before the disposal or the umpire has called play on.

Now if that happens the player on the mark has to wait until the kick or play on has been called thereby creating an overlap, time and space so the attacking team can clear the contest. The original defender will have to run around behind the mark to try and block it off making it harder to do so.

Slight movement sides ways off the mark will be OK. The umpiring key for the 50 m will be if the player on the mark comes off the mark sideways before disposal or play on call to block the attacker trying to play on.

Are you still umpiring up north? I seen the Buffalo vs Wanderer game on TV the other night at zero o'clock, Pendles' brother goes alright.

gadj1976 wrote:

cracka wrote:

woodublieve12 wrote:AFL - “we listen to the fans”
Fans- “leave the game alone”
AFL - “can’t hear you, here’s some more rule changes”

Problem is, most of the ones saying leave the game alone are also the ones saying the game is shit, was better in the 80's

If the rules were left alone, maybe the game would adapt and the game would be better for it. We will never know because they get changed twice/thrice yearly.

If the rules we're left alone, we'd still have players bouncing the ball while being tackled, players just lying on the ball throwing their arms out while being tackled etc. The coaches & players who manipulate the rules are the ones to blame for the constant changes

Lightning McQueen wrote:Are you still umpiring up north? I seen the Buffalo vs Wanderer game on TV the other night at zero o'clock, Pendles' brother goes alright.

Yeah, Did three A grade games been back in Div 1 (B grade) last two and this week)

We had an AFL listed umpire up here for the first six rounds (John Howorth #17) and he was fantastic with respect going through their decision making process and setting standards for training.

We did a lot of work on prior opportunity and what they look for in the HTB decision. Basically if a player isn't:
a) balanced and steady, b) trying to evade, c) fending, d) driving their head into a stationary opponent, e ) ignoring a prior option ignored & f) called to play from a free kick or mark, there no prior.

You can see how so few HTBs are paid at the AFL level and it looks scrappy because with the speed of the game if there's no Prior (see above) it isn't a legal tackle and they dispose of it legally it isn't HTB.

Every fortnight we were doing video sessions and quizzes with local and AFL footage to test our knowledge, 80% right was the acceptable pass level for or us, I got it once with my lowest mark 68% my lowest score.

The other things he said is they are allowed two mistakes (error of law not judgement) per game get more than two and its a please explain and dropped. A howler is an automatic drop.

Reminds me I should go back to the 2019 ANZAC day thread and say what he said about the last five minutes of umpiring and how they were assessed....

Dont mind the 50m for lateral movement.
Always been a pet hate of mine when someone is having a shot from the boundary line about 10 or 15m out and the guy on the mark stands 4 or 5m in to get a head start when the guy plays on. I always thought if the defender wants to stand out there that the player should be able to kick from that improved angle. The 50m simplifies that

Eagles2014 wrote:

gadj1976 wrote:More 50's for an inconsequential ruling/umpires interpretation of a subjective rule, YAY!

I really do wonder if they think these things through as to how they'll be taken by the general football watcher? Ok, obviously not.

Gotta feel for the umps, as they are the ones that cop all the abuse for paying soft 50 metre penalties, but the AFL are the ones that make up these crap rules and get them to enforce them. Players are dumb as dog shit too so they wont learn and there will be dozen 50's paid a game for this!

^^^^^^^100% this.

Its the AFL who have made the game impossible to umpire not the umpires.