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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:05 am

Dutchy wrote:Strange he wasn't dropped during the season if he wasn't following instructions then
I think he did the job when asked but complained afterwards. He wasn’t asked to do it often and at the end of year meeting he outlined that he wanted to not play the lockdown role at all which is why we initially baulked at price. Carlton were smart and got wind and the rest is history
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Brodlach » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:17 am

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Armchair expert wrote:Was under the impression Saad was a free agent, don't want him if he costs pick 7 as rumoured.

He did finish 4th in Essendooms bnf
Not a free agent, he is just uncontracted which means he has to be traded for.
Won’t be pick 7 IMO, I think you will send pick 7 to someone like Geelong for a couple of picks in the teens and then flip one of those to us. Worth a pick in the teens IMO


He’s not worth a first round pick
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:23 am

Brodlach wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Was under the impression Saad was a free agent, don't want him if he costs pick 7 as rumoured.

He did finish 4th in Essendooms bnf
Not a free agent, he is just uncontracted which means he has to be traded for.
Won’t be pick 7 IMO, I think you will send pick 7 to someone like Geelong for a couple of picks in the teens and then flip one of those to us. Worth a pick in the teens IMO


He’s not worth a first round pick
6 Player managers on SEN this morning and all said that pick 7 from Carlton is on the money this year. I don’t think we will get it but will definitely get a pick in the teens
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:33 am

Daniher nominates Brisbane so hopefully we can trigger Band 1 for him.
Pick 6,7 plus whatever we get for Saad is a good foundation for a rebuild but still need to cut the list deeper
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Dutchy » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:49 am

Armchair expert wrote:Was under the impression Saad was a free agent, don't want him if he costs pick 7 as rumoured.

He did finish 4th in Essendooms bnf


Free Agency isn't for someone who has only been at a club for 3 years.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Armchair expert » Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:54 am

Dutchy wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Was under the impression Saad was a free agent, don't want him if he costs pick 7 as rumoured.

He did finish 4th in Essendooms bnf


Free Agency isn't for someone who has only been at a club for 3 years.


I completely forgot he played for Gold Coast

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Jim05 wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Was under the impression Saad was a free agent, don't want him if he costs pick 7 as rumoured.

He did finish 4th in Essendooms bnf
Not a free agent, he is just uncontracted which means he has to be traded for.
Won’t be pick 7 IMO, I think you will send pick 7 to someone like Geelong for a couple of picks in the teens and then flip one of those to us. Worth a pick in the teens IMO


He’s not worth a first round pick
6 Player managers on SEN this morning and all said that pick 7 from Carlton is on the money this year. I don’t think we will get it but will definitely get a pick in the teens


That is what I was listening too

Dodododo will ask for cripps the next 10 1st rounders and Walsh for Saad

Pick 15ish is fair imo
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby locky801 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:39 pm

Daniher nominates Brisbane as his choice of club, hopefully they are not that silly
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Brodlach » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:40 pm

It’s (key forward) the one piece of the puzzle they need to be premiers IMO, said that for a couple of years.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:56 pm

Am I right in saying Exitdon could have had picks 5 and 9 for Daniher last year and may, if things go well, get pick 7 for him this year?
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:57 pm

Brodlach wrote:It’s (key forward) the one piece of the puzzle they need to be premiers IMO, said that for a couple of years.
They are 1 win away from a flag now.
If he is fit and firing then his big contract will be worth every cent. Hopefully he can stay fit as he is good to watch
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:02 pm

Booney wrote:Am I right in saying Exitdon could have had picks 5 and 9 for Daniher last year and may, if things go well, get pick 7 for him this year?
I think only the three clubs know if that was on offer. I think there was a bit of bluff between all 3 sides. Pick 9 was dependant on Carlton handing that over for Papley first. Were the Swans willing to let Papley go and Carlton seemed adamant at the time they wouldn’t give up pick 9 for him so who knows. The club thought they could change Joe’s mind in a year but a season living in QLD probably strengthened his resolve to leave Victoria. Brisbane’s ladder position helps aswell
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby tigerpie » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:02 pm

Sounds very similar to Jared Polec. Doesn't want accountability for a direct opponent.
Not what I'd call a team player!
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Brodlach » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:05 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:It’s (key forward) the one piece of the puzzle they need to be premiers IMO, said that for a couple of years.
They are 1 win away from a flag now.
If he is fit and firing then his big contract will be worth every cent. Hopefully he can stay fit as he is good to watch


True but Hipwood will need to play out of his skin for them to win

Daniher I would imagine would be on far less money at Brisbane
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:07 pm

tigerpie wrote:Sounds very similar to Jared Polec. Doesn't want accountability for a direct opponent.
Not what I'd call a team player!


No surprise they'll both be at their third club then, is it?
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Brodlach » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:07 pm

Who’d be a better pickup, Saad pick 7 or Papley pick 5?

Both too high value IMO
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:08 pm

Brodlach wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Brodlach wrote:It’s (key forward) the one piece of the puzzle they need to be premiers IMO, said that for a couple of years.
They are 1 win away from a flag now.
If he is fit and firing then his big contract will be worth every cent. Hopefully he can stay fit as he is good to watch


True but Hipwood will need to play out of his skin for them to win

Daniher I would imagine would be on far less money at Brisbane
Joe will be on $700k+ x 4-5 years IMO.
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:10 pm

Brodlach wrote:Who’d be a better pickup, Saad pick 7 or Papley pick 5?

Both too high value IMO
Depends on the team needs. A players worth is vastly different to different teams. I think this years draft is scaring a lot of recruiters. Plenty of talent probably but a lot of unknowns especially with the Vic kids
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Brodlach » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:11 pm

I’m not sure that’s a “big contract” anymore, not too far off average

Three years ago everyone was leaving Brisbane, now playing finals and players want to go there. Things can turn around quickly
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2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Jim05 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:23 pm

Brodlach wrote:I’m not sure that’s a “big contract” anymore, not too far off average

Three years ago everyone was leaving Brisbane, now playing finals and players want to go there. Things can turn around quickly
Things turn around very quickly when the AFL intervenes. They couldn’t afford to have Brisbane struggling.
I guess it depends on whether Brisbane want to pick Joe up as a FA or trade for him as that will determine his wage. They might be willing to pay him $1m a year to get him for nothing
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Re: 2020 Retirements and delistings / trade talk

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:48 pm

Brodlach wrote:I’m not sure that’s a “big contract” anymore, not too far off average

Three years ago everyone was leaving Brisbane, now playing finals and players want to go there. Things can turn around quickly


5 years @ $700k simply cannot be average, it's a big contract offer in anyone's terms.
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