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Players named re. ASADA

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Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:39 pm
by Squids
Re: Players named re. ASADA

Posted:
Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:09 am
by DOC
Reporting on FOX that 14 players have made admissions that they took banned drugs.
Calling it a crisis meeting, the suggestion is that after the worlds longest investigation, Essendon may have 10 players banned right at the start of the season. If so, might now be spoon favourites if they are left with a very depleted squad.
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:32 am
by dedja
I think you'll find that players may haven taken substances that were administered to them by their club who assured them that what they were taking was above board ... that's significantly different from 'made admissions they took banned drugs'.
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:17 am
by kickinit
dedja wrote:I think you'll find that players may haven taken substances that were administered to them by their club who assured them that what they were taking was above board ... that's significantly different from 'made admissions they took banned drugs'.
Directly taken from the AFL Anti Doping code.
An Anti Doping Rule Violation occurs even if the Player does not know the Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method is prohibited under this Code. The onus is on the Player to check all substances and methods
It is each Player's personal duty to ensure that no Prohibited Substance enters his body. Players are responsible for any Prohibited Substance or its Metabolites or Markers found to be present in their Sample. Accordingly, it is not necessary that intent, fault, negligence or knowing Use on the Player's part be demonstrated in order to establish an Anti-Doping Rule Violation under Clause
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:27 am
by dedja
So why haven't they charged them all then?
Because ASADA are incompetent fools and the AFL are weak as piss.
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:08 am
by Squids
dedja wrote:So why haven't they charged them all then?
Because ASADA are incompetent fools and the AFL are weak as piss.
I am waiting for the 'insufficient evidence' line.
and they all get to keep playing.
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:47 pm
by HH3
Will Sam Lonergan be banned from playing SANFL? Or is it just an AFL thing.
Might bring it up next time he comes into work as a rep for Allied.
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:50 pm
by JK
dedja wrote:So why haven't they charged them all then?
Because ASADA are incompetent fools and the AFL are weak as piss.
Because I don't think ASADA can %100 confirm what the substances were that were taken.
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:51 pm
by Squids
A VFL player got banned by ASADA so I would assume Lonergan would also be banned from playing in the SANFL.
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:52 pm
by Squids
JK wrote:dedja wrote:So why haven't they charged them all then?
Because ASADA are incompetent fools and the AFL are weak as piss.
Because I don't think ASADA can %100 confirm what the substances were that were taken.
Because that piece of shit Dank wont talk.
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:55 pm
by kickinit
[quote="dedja"]So why haven't they charged them all then?
Because ASADA are incompetent fools and the AFL are weak as piss.[/quote
Because they have just finished their investigation. On what basis can you say ASADA are incompetent? Of course it's going to take time especially when you have a weak as piss club in essendon.
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:56 pm
by kickinit
HH3 wrote:Will Sam Lonergan be banned from playing SANFL? Or is it just an AFL thing.
Might bring it up next time he comes into work as a rep for Allied.
yes he will, even if he was to play ammo he would be banned.
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:12 pm
by Jim05
Squids wrote:JK wrote:dedja wrote:So why haven't they charged them all then?
Because ASADA are incompetent fools and the AFL are weak as piss.
Because I don't think ASADA can %100 confirm what the substances were that were taken.
Because that piece of shit Dank wont talk.
Still find it strange that ASADA have completed their investigation without questioning Dank. Perhaps they have enough evidence who knows.
The ammount of times Essendon players would of been drug tested but have still never returned a positive test is also a tad bizarre
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:16 pm
by Jim05
JK wrote:dedja wrote:So why haven't they charged them all then?
Because ASADA are incompetent fools and the AFL are weak as piss.
Because I don't think ASADA can %100 confirm what the substances were that were taken.
Correct
Zero positive tests and a combination of poor record keeping may mean we never find out what substances were taken
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:22 pm
by Squids
Yes because Dank is scum.
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:29 pm
by Jim05
Squids wrote:Yes because Dank is scum.
Agree, I think he has alot to answer but doubt we will ever see the truth.
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:22 pm
by tigerpie
Dank wont testify...eve,r unless forced.
My take...he's charged essendon for administering saline or some other safe substance, but, told them its so and so. Hence no positive tests.
If he fesses up then he's done for fraud.
Or.....they cheated big time and got caught. He wont fess up to that either or he's civilly sued for millions.
The guys no fool...just a @#$wit
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:51 pm
by Q.
Jim05 wrote:JK wrote:dedja wrote:So why haven't they charged them all then?
Because ASADA are incompetent fools and the AFL are weak as piss.
Because I don't think ASADA can %100 confirm what the substances were that were taken.
Correct
Zero positive tests and a combination of poor record keeping may mean we never find out what substances were taken
IIRC the peptides used aren't even detectable.
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:58 pm
by Jim05
Q. wrote:Jim05 wrote:JK wrote:dedja wrote:So why haven't they charged them all then?
Because ASADA are incompetent fools and the AFL are weak as piss.
Because I don't think ASADA can %100 confirm what the substances were that were taken.
Correct
Zero positive tests and a combination of poor record keeping may mean we never find out what substances were taken
IIRC the peptides used aren't even detectable.
Im no expert on it but would think that the ammount of differant drugs reportedly administered that perhaps a few positive tests may have come back
Re: Players named re. ASADA

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Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:36 pm
by Q.
The half life of the compounds in question are ridiculously short and wouldn't elevate GH levels enough to break testing thresholds.