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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:37 am

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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby JK » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:34 am

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Jim05 wrote:Dont think these guys were deliberately cheating. More likely they popped a couple of googs that was cut with the stuff


Nobody would cut rec drugs with Clen


It can be used as a cutting agent for Coke can't ir?
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby Q. » Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:49 am

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Q. wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Dont think these guys were deliberately cheating. More likely they popped a couple of googs that was cut with the stuff


Nobody would cut rec drugs with Clen


It can be used as a cutting agent for Coke can't ir?


No way. It doesn't make economic sense.

Someone down the line has confused 'cutting' in body-building terms with 'cutting' in rec drug terms... And now the misinformation is proliferating.
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby DOC » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:12 pm

Just watching AFL 360 from last night. Buckley presenting himself very well regarding the complexites of the issue. I think they are gone though.
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby Dogwatcher » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:37 pm

Agreed. And agreed.
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby Footy Smart » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:41 pm

Q. wrote:
JK wrote:
Q. wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Dont think these guys were deliberately cheating. More likely they popped a couple of googs that was cut with the stuff


Nobody would cut rec drugs with Clen


It can be used as a cutting agent for Coke can't ir?


No way. It doesn't make economic sense.

Someone down the line has confused 'cutting' in body-building terms with 'cutting' in rec drug terms... And now the misinformation is proliferating.


Yep, cost far too much and far too hard to find to cut it with another illicit substance. Would make much more $$ selling it on its own to the roid heads at your local anytime fitness :lol:
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby Frosty » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:15 pm

Two things - New Zealand have now come out and said they don't use clenbuterol in their meat and Nathan Buckley said they had team dinners in NZ where lots of players had a steak - yet, only 2 positive results.....goneeeeeeeeeeeee
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby Q. » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:31 pm

Frosty wrote:Two things - New Zealand have now come out and said they don't use clenbuterol in their meat and Nathan Buckley said they had team dinners in NZ where lots of players had a steak - yet, only 2 positive results.....goneeeeeeeeeeeee


I'm pretty sure it's registered for use in New Zealand still (under the name Planipart).

Maybe these two will regret that late night yiros in their final night in New Zealand.
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby heater31 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:40 pm

Frosty wrote:Two things - New Zealand have now come out and said they don't use clenbuterol in their meat and Nathan Buckley said they had team dinners in NZ where lots of players had a steak - yet, only 2 positive results.....goneeeeeeeeeeeee

Which leaves tainted supplement products used by the 2 players. They are /were housemates?
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby Q. » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:52 pm

heater31 wrote:
Frosty wrote:Two things - New Zealand have now come out and said they don't use clenbuterol in their meat and Nathan Buckley said they had team dinners in NZ where lots of players had a steak - yet, only 2 positive results.....goneeeeeeeeeeeee

Which leaves tainted supplement products used by the 2 players. They are /were housemates?


A contaminated fat burning supplement would be a better explanation than contaminated meat.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14986195
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby heater31 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:01 pm

Q. wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Frosty wrote:Two things - New Zealand have now come out and said they don't use clenbuterol in their meat and Nathan Buckley said they had team dinners in NZ where lots of players had a steak - yet, only 2 positive results.....goneeeeeeeeeeeee

Which leaves tainted supplement products used by the 2 players. They are /were housemates?


A contaminated fat burning supplement would be a better explanation than contaminated meat.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14986195

And most likely to be used in addition to the club approved supplements list.
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby test » Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:54 pm

heater31 wrote:
Frosty wrote:Two things - New Zealand have now come out and said they don't use clenbuterol in their meat and Nathan Buckley said they had team dinners in NZ where lots of players had a steak - yet, only 2 positive results.....goneeeeeeeeeeeee

Which leaves tainted supplement products used by the 2 players. They are /were housemates?


And they were rooming together in NZ.

No idea if people cut rec drugs with the stuff they pissed hot too but AFL 360 tonight they've been saying it happens? Either way the lads are in all sorts, very stupid if they knowingly took it and they should get what they deserve.
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Collingwood 2014

Postby Jim05 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:39 pm

Q. wrote:Rumour that there might be more positive tests to come involving players from other clubs!

Heard today that two players from two differant Vic clubs tested positive to the same drug. Keep hearing that one is from Carlton and the other a Saint.
Apparantly both blokes lived with the two from Collingwood for a period of time
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby heater31 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:19 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Q. wrote:Rumour that there might be more positive tests to come involving players from other clubs!

Heard today that two players from two differant Vic clubs tested positive to the same drug. Keep hearing that one is from Carlton and the other a Saint.
Apparantly both blokes lived with the two from Collingwood for a period of time

Someone has bought a dodgy supplement and hasn't told the club me thinks.....
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby MW » Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:11 am

Kudos for Collingwoods hard stance on this issue though, declaring they will be sacked if found guilty.
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:10 am

I guess Essendon are lucky they don't have to sack anyone.
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:10 am

Jim05 wrote:
Q. wrote:Rumour that there might be more positive tests to come involving players from other clubs!

Heard today that two players from two differant Vic clubs tested positive to the same drug. Keep hearing that one is from Carlton and the other a Saint.
Apparantly both blokes lived with the two from Collingwood for a period of time


I'm pretty certain I know the name of the Carlton player.

Interesting, if true.

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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby test » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:20 pm

Some various feedback today tells me it's not uncommon to cut coke with the stuff they tested positive to, maybe instead of looking for contaminated meat in NZ their lawyers should be sussing out The Mongrel Mob and Black Power about their ingredients of choice!
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby heater31 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:22 pm

test wrote:Some various feedback today tells me it's not uncommon to cut coke with the stuff they tested positive to, maybe instead of looking for contaminated meat in NZ their lawyers should be sussing out The Mongrel Mob and Black Power about their ingredients of choice!

Footy Show reported that they had virtually closed the contaminated meat theory, instead focusing on their Attendance to the St Kilda Festival after they got back but before the test.....
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Re: Collingwood 2014

Postby Q. » Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:37 pm

test wrote:Some various feedback today tells me it's not uncommon to cut coke with the stuff they tested positive to, maybe instead of looking for contaminated meat in NZ their lawyers should be sussing out The Mongrel Mob and Black Power about their ingredients of choice!


It would be very uncommon.

Coke is almost always cut with lidocaine, dextrose or caffeine.
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