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Port Adelaide 2013

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:53 pm

whufc wrote:imho Port are yet to play a side who will play finals in 2013.

Does it matter NOOOOOOO!!! All you can do is win who the AFL fixture you up against. Which they have done very well.

What they have done is set themselves up very nicely for a crack at the finals and IF they do make the finals the last thing the Power supporters will doing is comparing their draw to the Crows.

Thats why i prefer the way European soccer is fixtured where you play every team twice once at home once away, no soft draws etc etc exsist.


I guess they can as soccer isn't as taxing physically.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby whufc » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:04 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
whufc wrote:imho Port are yet to play a side who will play finals in 2013.

Does it matter NOOOOOOO!!! All you can do is win who the AFL fixture you up against. Which they have done very well.

What they have done is set themselves up very nicely for a crack at the finals and IF they do make the finals the last thing the Power supporters will doing is comparing their draw to the Crows.

Thats why i prefer the way European soccer is fixtured where you play every team twice once at home once away, no soft draws etc etc exsist.


I guess they can as soccer isn't as taxing physically.


The gap is closing with all the new rule changes! ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby Squids » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:05 pm

European soccer is great...you always know the winners will come from one of 5 clubs. Those clubs never change either.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby whufc » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:08 pm

Squids wrote:European soccer is great...you always know the winners will come from one of 5 clubs. Those clubs never change either.


But at least u know they were the best team because of their talent not the draw they were handed, it's a non discussion point in soccer. The five teams do change................when some billionaire buys another club
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Comparing AFL footy with soccer

Postby Squids » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:13 pm

whufc wrote:
Squids wrote:European soccer is great...you always know the winners will come from one of 5 clubs. Those clubs never change either.


But at least u know they were the best team because of their talent not the draw they were handed, it's a non discussion point in soccer. The five teams do change................when some billionaire buys another club


The clubs with the biggest pockets win.

Some clubs celebrate not getting relegated, what a friggin joke.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby whufc » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:16 pm

Squids wrote:
whufc wrote:
Squids wrote:European soccer is great...you always know the winners will come from one of 5 clubs. Those clubs never change either.


But at least u know they were the best team because of their talent not the draw they were handed, it's a non discussion point in soccer. The five teams do change................when some billionaire buys another club


The clubs with the biggest pockets win.

Some clubs celebrate not getting relegated, what a friggin joke.


Isnt that the same as the AFL cough cough Sydney ;)

Both the EPL and AFL have had 3 different winners in the last 5 years. :lol:

I can definatly see why some people dont like how soccer works but i was focusing more on the draw being alot more even and not contrived simply for t.v ratings unlike the AFL.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby Jim05 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:24 pm

Squids wrote:
whufc wrote:
Squids wrote:European soccer is great...you always know the winners will come from one of 5 clubs. Those clubs never change either.


But at least u know they were the best team because of their talent not the draw they were handed, it's a non discussion point in soccer. The five teams do change................when some billionaire buys another club


The clubs with the biggest pockets win.

Some clubs celebrate not getting relegated, what a friggin joke.

Whats wrong with that, we are not communists.
Its up to the poorer clubs to get better not drag the rich clubs down to their level by introducing drafts and salary caps
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby Squids » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:26 pm

whufc wrote:
Squids wrote:
whufc wrote:
Squids wrote:European soccer is great...you always know the winners will come from one of 5 clubs. Those clubs never change either.


But at least u know they were the best team because of their talent not the draw they were handed, it's a non discussion point in soccer. The five teams do change................when some billionaire buys another club


The clubs with the biggest pockets win.

Some clubs celebrate not getting relegated, what a friggin joke.


Isnt that the same as the AFL cough cough Sydney ;)

Both the EPL and AFL have had 3 different winners in the last 5 years. :lol:

I can definatly see why some people dont like how soccer works but i was focusing more on the draw being alot more even and not contrived simply for t.v ratings unlike the AFL.


How about the last 20 years?

yep.

Man U, Man City, Chelsea, Blackburn Rovers (fluke) --- runners up don't vary from these teams too much either with only Liverpool (big budget) and Aston Villa in 1993 joining the list.

Comparing this to AFL we find

Adelaide, Brisbane, Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Melbourne, North Melbourne, Geelong, West Coast, Port Adelaide, St Kilda, Hawthorn and Sydney have all won or at least made the grand final.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby whufc » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:29 pm

LOL if you go back through to 1900, you will find there have been 23 teams to win england div1 football. I bet the VFL/AFL has less than that ;)

This is off topic anyways

How good have the POOOOOWDDDDDDDDER been!!!
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:49 pm

Comparing soccer and football is a waste of time.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby Bully » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:24 pm

Squids wrote:
How about the last 20 years?

yep.

Man U, Man City, Chelsea, ARSENAL Blackburn rovers (fluke) --- runners up don't vary from these teams too much either with only Liverpool (big budget) and Aston Villa in 1993 joining the list NEWCASTLE

Comparing this to AFL we find

Adelaide, Brisbane, Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Melbourne, North Melbourne, Geelong, West Coast, Port Adelaide, St Kilda, Hawthorn and Sydney have all won or at least made the grand final.


edited for your convienence ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby Squids » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:25 pm

Bully wrote:
Squids wrote:
How about the last 20 years?

yep.

Man U, Man City, Chelsea, ARSENAL Blackburn rovers (fluke) --- runners up don't vary from these teams too much either with only Liverpool (big budget) and Aston Villa in 1993 joining the list NEWCASTLE

Comparing this to AFL we find

Adelaide, Brisbane, Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Melbourne, North Melbourne, Geelong, West Coast, Port Adelaide, St Kilda, Hawthorn and Sydney have all won or at least made the grand final.


edited for your convienence ;)


Thanks I missed a couple.

Arsenal once again a team with a big bank.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby Bully » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:27 pm

lol, umm off the topic yes, but if you think Arsenal (we) have a big bank, then you can believe that as much as you want.......;)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby Squids » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:33 pm

Bully wrote:lol, umm off the topic yes, but if you think Arsenal (we) have a big bank, then you can believe that as much as you want.......;)


I'll believe cold hard facts

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... 01112.html

you can believe whatever you want.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:52 pm

Is it the biggest bank? Or who can service the biggest debt?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby Jase » Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:13 pm

Bully wrote:lol, umm off the topic yes, but if you think Arsenal (we) have a big bank, then you can believe that as much as you want.......;)


Arsenal team (transfer value) > £50million
Bradford City = £7500

Don't always need a big backer... heart will do...

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Re: Port Adelaide 2013

Postby Bully » Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:16 pm

Squids wrote:
Bully wrote:lol, umm off the topic yes, but if you think Arsenal (we) have a big bank, then you can believe that as much as you want.......;)


I'll believe cold hard facts

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... 01112.html

you can believe whatever you want.



i guess you do


so do i - http://hereisthecity.com/2012/03/29/the ... -by-net-s/

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Re: Comparing AFL footy with soccer

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:04 pm

Just so everyone knows, I didn't start this thread. :lol:
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Re: Comparing AFL footy with soccer

Postby whufc » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:12 pm

Just so people know as well i wasnt comparing the two as sports just merely the way the fixtures are done.
imho home and away fixtures are ideal in any sport and are clearly the best way to determine a ladder at the end of a season with no teams getting a pre determined advantage.

Its a pointless debate football people will prefer football and soccer people will prefer soccer there is no right or wrong answer its purely a personal opinion and no one will change anyones minds.

Imho both have different skills/aspects which i love to watch but involve completely different abilites and skills sets.
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Re: Comparing AFL footy with soccer

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:16 pm

But you know it's not possible in the afl to have a "fair" fixture.
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