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my mates and i regularly siscuss who over the year have been terrible AFL players yet played substantial amounts of games, in "my opinion"
the Holland brothers (Ben and Nick) were both very ordinary
Toby Thurstans played years of medioka football
Robert Shirley
ty zantuck
the list goes on, i would like to see what every one elses oppinion is on this matter

I personally wouldn't have described Nick Holland as "ordinary".

Probably a bit harsh on Nick Holland .. He wasn't a typical "stand and deliver" type of CHF in his early years, but he played some reasonable footy for the Hawks.

Freo have probably had a few footballers fall into the category you mentioned, same with Melbourne and Richmond I'd say.

Jayson Daniels 173 games. Just a horrible kicker who probably survived on defensive skills
Steven Baker 174 games. Annoying tagger who has no game

Just 2 that come to mind....

Ask Chris Judd if Robert Shirley was an ordinary player.

Ask Chris Judd if Robert Shirley was an ordinary player.

he probably is a good tagger but still an ordinary player, it frustrates me how blokes can make a career and a good pay packet when they have no ability and just follow someone around all day only my oppinion though

Shane O'Bree and he's played 200! Yes Punky I know 200 more than me. And how many did McManus of Freo end up with?

regards,

REB

Des Headland. He is crap

Choccies wrote:Jayson Daniels 173 games. Just a horrible kicker who probably survived on defensive skills
Steven Baker 174 games. Annoying tagger who has no game

Just 2 that come to mind....

Every team needs one. Yep, I'm biased, but you could hardly rate Baker's career as "terrible".

Bum Crack wrote:Des Headland. He is crap

He's the one I was trying to think of ... Certainly wouldn't say he's crap, but he's fallen well short of the expectation I think most people had of him.

Funnily enough I reckon Peter Caven would have been headed for this topic if he hadn't bumped into Malcolm Blight, thought he was just garbage when he landed at Adelaide and then within the space of a couple of years he was a completely different player.

Ricky Olarenshaw is another that I always thought was overrated, probably because he moved well.

You guys have mentioned Baker and Shirley, but they've shown an ability that not too many possess.

leigh brown- collingwood

Bum Crack wrote:Des Headland. He is crap

He'd be close to 200 now wouldn't he?
First 50 or so weren't bad with Brisbane. Has been carp since going to Freo though.

There were a few players in that 2000 Essendon premiership that lived off that success for a while - Heffernan, Blumfield, Moorcroft, Caracella.

Think we are seeing the same thing happen to a few of the 2008 hawks.

piccachu wrote:leigh brown- collingwood

Yeah he's not the best i've ever seen

piccachu wrote:my mates and i regularly siscuss who over the year have been terrible AFL players yet played substantial amounts of games, in "my opinion"
the Holland brothers (Ben and Nick) were both very ordinary
Toby Thurstans played years of medioka football
Robert Shirley
ty zantuck
the list goes on, i would like to see what every one elses oppinion is on this matter

Shirley, a rubbish footballer

saintal wrote:

Choccies wrote:Jayson Daniels 173 games. Just a horrible kicker who probably survived on defensive skills
Steven Baker 174 games. Annoying tagger who has no game

Just 2 that come to mind....

Every team needs one. Yep, I'm biased, but you could hardly rate Baker's career as "terrible".

I didn't. The topic was 'terrible footballers' of which I believe he is. He has made a great career for himself but as a footballer I hardly rate him. Has a dip though and takes on people twice his size I'll grant him that. But as a footballer he is average.

Carlton have had a few too. One that springs to mind is Simon Wiggans.

Choccies wrote:

saintal wrote:

Choccies wrote:Jayson Daniels 173 games. Just a horrible kicker who probably survived on defensive skills
Steven Baker 174 games. Annoying tagger who has no game

Just 2 that come to mind....

Every team needs one. Yep, I'm biased, but you could hardly rate Baker's career as "terrible".

I didn't. The topic was 'terrible footballers' of which I believe he is. He has made a great career for himself but as a footballer I hardly rate him. Has a dip though and takes on people twice his size I'll grant him that. But as a footballer he is average.

Tagging is a part of football...so id say anyone that can tag at an AFL level, deserves to be recognised as a footballer...

hackham_hawk_3 wrote:

Choccies wrote:

saintal wrote:

Choccies wrote:Jayson Daniels 173 games. Just a horrible kicker who probably survived on defensive skills
Steven Baker 174 games. Annoying tagger who has no game

Just 2 that come to mind....

Every team needs one. Yep, I'm biased, but you could hardly rate Baker's career as "terrible".

I didn't. The topic was 'terrible footballers' of which I believe he is. He has made a great career for himself but as a footballer I hardly rate him. Has a dip though and takes on people twice his size I'll grant him that. But as a footballer he is average.

Tagging is a part of football...so id say anyone that can tag at an AFL level, deserves to be recognised as a footballer...

Yeh, you are right.... A Sh*t part....

Chuck Norris wrote:

Bum Crack wrote:Des Headland. He is crap

He'd be close to 200 now wouldn't he?
First 50 or so weren't bad with Brisbane. Has been carp since going to Freo though.

So crap that he only came 2nd in a brownlow medal! Sure he coulda played better, but he definitely is not crap. Both holland boys were fairly good!

Ty zantuck I agree with! Steven baker, well he is a bes n fairest winner! Think that sys
enough when he had the likes of riewoldt, Hayes, dal santo in the same side