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Richmond 2010

Postby hearts on fire » Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:03 pm

The tigers will improve on last year but will once again struggle.......

they will finish between 12-16.
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby Mr66 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:33 pm

Judging by their performance against the Hawks, bottom three
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby CK » Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:29 pm

The single biggest question mark over the Tigers is where on earth they will regularly kick winning scores above 14 goals from. There really doesn't seem to be many options, unless they can afford to leave Deledio in the forward 50 for extended periods, which robs them of centre clearances. The wildcard may be Cousins up there, but can't see him regularly kicking more than three a game, even if he spends the whole game in the 50. Would need Jack Riewoldt and Mitch Morton to kick over 50 apiece to be any sort of show, and that looks a bridge too far

Rucks look thin, some good kids coming through but are a few years away from their peak, and too many underachievers. Richard Tambling's breakout year is still yet to come and in all honesty, may not ever arrive unless he really puts the skates on soon.
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby dedja » Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:38 pm

A culture transplant would be a good start ...
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:04 pm

hearts on fire wrote:The tigers will improve on last year but will once again struggle.......

they will finish between 12-16.


HOF, I think they'll finish between 15th and 17th.

Major major rebuild on the cards and hopefully the club actually sticks with the bloke. Given their recent history it'd be easy to chuck the baby out with the bathwater.
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby CoverKing » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:12 am

CK wrote:The single biggest question mark over the Tigers is where on earth they will regularly kick winning scores above 14 goals from. There really doesn't seem to be many options, unless they can afford to leave Deledio in the forward 50 for extended periods, which robs them of centre clearances. The wildcard may be Cousins up there, but can't see him regularly kicking more than three a game, even if he spends the whole game in the 50. Would need Jack Riewoldt and Mitch Morton to kick over 50 apiece to be any sort of show, and that looks a bridge too far

Rucks look thin, some good kids coming through but are a few years away from their peak, and too many underachievers. Richard Tambling's breakout year is still yet to come and in all honesty, may not ever arrive unless he really puts the skates on soon.


even though Richard Tambling got dropped early last year once he returned, he had a cracking year in a carp side. He was really good for the tigers last year and had some outstanding games. I think last year was a breakout year where he was a senior player. Now, this year, he will be looking to build on that and push for the a permanent spot in the back flank rotating thru the midfield.

IMO we have a great midfield in Cousins, Cotchin (pre-season under his belt), Deledio, Tambling, Jackson, Foley, Tuck, Hislop, White and Martin now aswell. If we can get a couple more young fellas such as Rance to step as an option for a rotating midfielder our midfield could keep us out of the bottom 4. Vickery, Simmonds, Riewoldt, Morton, Nahas and Jayden Post are the main players that will kick goals i would think. We have 3 good tall defenders in Moore, Thursfield and McGuane with our small defenders being Chris Newman, Rance, Connors and Edwards (i think he will play the running back this year) ...
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby stan » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:41 am

CK wrote:The single biggest question mark over the Tigers is where on earth they will regularly kick winning scores above 14 goals from. There really doesn't seem to be many options, unless they can afford to leave Deledio in the forward 50 for extended periods, which robs them of centre clearances. The wildcard may be Cousins up there, but can't see him regularly kicking more than three a game, even if he spends the whole game in the 50. Would need Jack Riewoldt and Mitch Morton to kick over 50 apiece to be any sort of show, and that looks a bridge too far

Rucks look thin, some good kids coming through but are a few years away from their peak, and too many underachievers. Richard Tambling's breakout year is still yet to come and in all honesty, may not ever arrive unless he really puts the skates on soon.


It does at the moment, but I believe its a good start with Jack Riewolt and Mitch Morton down there. Both have shown they can play and have the ability to be a forward target. Of course there not going to turn the world on its head this season, but they dont look horrible up forward, espically if Deldeio spends time up there as well, which he might.

Rucks are very thin, Vickery is a good young talent but raw as sushi. Midfield will be caught chasing all year, they will struggle to get there hands on the ball first.
Down back looks thin. Can't see them being able to stop any team with geniune power forwards at all.

Tip: 14th - 16th (Another tough year at tiger land)

P.S at least now they are looking like they have a plan for the future. They will show some good glimp's this season.
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby Q. » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:43 am

Will finish last and will definitely be sticking with Hardwick.
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby the big bang » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:09 am

any word from tiger faithful on how young Matt Dea is going and should he be expecting to get a gig in the 1's at all this year?

great kid, known him since he was a little tacker and taught him all he knows about basketball (sort of!)
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby Pag » Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:03 am

I like the balance of our back half, decent mix of youth and experience in the midfield, but it's the forward line that will struggle. Jack Riewoldt and Mitch Morton are not genuine key forwards, and until Post and Vickery start to mature into good players in 3-4 years time this will continue to be our biggest problem.

We will finish in the bottom four along with Fremantle, Melbourne and North Melbourne. Another year of looking for positives in some young kids.
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby Sorry Dude » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:06 am

will dylan grimes play much in the yellow and black this year?
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:26 am

hackham hawk wrote:will dylan grimes play much in the yellow and black this year?


Out shopping for bargains hacky? :lol:

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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby Sorry Dude » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:07 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
hackham hawk wrote:will dylan grimes play much in the yellow and black this year?


Out shopping for bargains hacky? :lol:

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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby hearts on fire » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:14 am

SNAPSHOT
Coach: Damien Hardwick
Captain: Chris Newman
Finished 2009: 15th (five wins, 16 losses, one draw)
Best and fairest: Brett Deledio
Leading goalkicker: Mitch Morton (41 goals)
Leading possession winner: Brett Deledio (533)

NEW PERSONNEL
On-field: Mitch Farmer (traded from Port Adelaide), Dustin Martin, Ben Griffiths, David Astbury, Matt Dea, Troy Taylor, Jeromey Webberley, Ben Nason (NAB AFL Draft), Dylan Grimes (NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft), Robert Hicks, Pat Contin, Relton Roberts, Nick Westhoff, Graham Polak, Jamie O'Reilly (NAB AFL Rookie Draft)
Off-field: Damien Hardwick (senior coach), Brendon Lade (ruck/stoppage coach), Justin Leppitsch (backline coach), Danny Daly (forwards coach), David Newett (development/VFL coach), Tim Clarke (development coach)

BEST 22
B: Kelvin Moore, Will Thursfield, Shane Edwards
HB: Daniel Connors, Luke McGuane, Chris Newman
C: Trent Cotchin, Nathan Foley, Matt White
HF: Ben Cousins, Jack Riewoldt, Richard Tambling
F: Mitch Morton, Graham Polak, Robin Nahas
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Brett Deledio, Daniel Jackson
I/C: Angus Graham, Dustin Martin, Andrew Collins, Alex Rance

MOST IMPORTANT PLAYER
Brett Deledio. It's not because he's flashy, but because the Tigers are a better team when he's playing well. Deledio has won the last two best and fairest awards at Richmond, and topped the possession count last year. He's working hard to become an attacking midfielder who can also defend when needed.

UP AND COMER
Dustin Martin, the third pick overall in last year's draft, showed in the NAB Cup opener he's ready to go. Playing against Hawthorn in Launceston, Martin was at his best early when the game was at its hottest. He tired later but still finished with the most possessions for the Tigers.

NEEDS A BIG YEAR
Jordan McMahon is entering the final season of a three-year deal struck by former coach Terry Wallace. Drafted by the Western Bulldogs with the 10th pick in the 2000 draft, McMahon has never lived up to the promise. With a new coaching crew that values good decision-making and kicking very highly, the 26-year-old will have to make significant improvements to ensure his future at Punt Road.

CHANGING TACK
If the Tigers have learned anything from 2009, it's to not get too far ahead of themselves. Tipped to make the top eight last year, they only finished ahead of Melbourne. New coach Damien Hardwick has promised a simplified game plan, which is a positive step with a team as youthful as the Tigers. The basic team structure remains the same, with the key defenders and forwards remaining, but the injection of Dustin Martin and a fit Trent Cotchin and Nathan Foley into the middle will help considerably. Jake King has spent the summer training with the forwards, and watch for David Astbury and Ben Griffiths to be given AFL time up there.

INJURY LIST
Nathan Foley (ankle) - 3 weeks
Ben Griffiths (shoulder) - TBA

WHAT THE CLUB SAYS
"I suppose you'd call it more of a transformation of the list. It is exciting to bring in 14 new players onto a list. We are a young squad and going forward I think we can build on that squad." - senior coach Damien Hardwick

CRYSTAL BALL
This year is going to be tough for Richmond supporters, but on the upside, they're used to it. A horror 2009 saw a new coach and a clean-out of the list, with 14 new players added. The Tigers are favourites to take out the wooden spoon so, once again, supporters will have to look to the development of the kids.

SEASON OPENER
March 25 v Carlton at the MCG.

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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby Gozu » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:58 pm

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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby gadj1976 » Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:45 am

After what I saw last night - Richmond will be lucky to win a game this year.

Carlton aren't anything flash at all - I think we'll finish 9-11th, we have a disfunctional forward line and not a great backline but we were made to look quite good.

If Richmond had actually finished off their work in the second quarter, then they could've been close if not in front at half time and anything could've happened from there.

Given that they may have a horrible year, at least they are on the right track by offloading a heap of ordinary mid range players in the off season and rebuilding, albeit again.
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby carey » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:03 am

gadj1976 wrote:After what I saw last night - Richmond will be lucky to win a game this year.

Carlton aren't anything flash at all - I think we'll finish 9-11th, we have a disfunctional forward line and not a great backline but we were made to look quite good.

If Richmond had actually finished off their work in the second quarter, then they could've been close if not in front at half time and anything could've happened from there.

Given that they may have a horrible year, at least they are on the right track by offloading a heap of ordinary mid range players in the off season and rebuilding, albeit again.


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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby mypaddock » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:10 am

Will finish bottom without a doubt.

Only really have 3-5 decent AFL standard players- Cousins, Deledio and Foley. Maybe throw Jackson in there too.
Its daylight between them and the rest of their squad.

You'd think with Gold Coast and West Sydney coming in over the next few yrs and all the draft advantages they'll have, it's going to be a lean decade for clubs like Richmond.
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby Bum Crack » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:12 am

Can we delete this thread?? They are not even worthy of having a thread named after them. They are a joke.
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Re: Richmond 2010

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:35 am

gadj1976 wrote:After what I saw last night - Richmond will be lucky to win a game this year.

Carlton aren't anything flash at all - I think we'll finish 9-11th, we have a disfunctional forward line and not a great backline but we were made to look quite good.

If Richmond had actually finished off their work in the second quarter, then they could've been close if not in front at half time and anything could've happened from there.

Given that they may have a horrible year, at least they are on the right track by offloading a heap of ordinary mid range players in the off season and rebuilding, albeit again.



I agree mate. What about the commentators pencilling your blokes into the eight on the strength of that game? Carlton have plenty of work to do but clearly they have a lot more to work with than the Tigers.

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