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Forgive me if this has already been brought up before but why was he delisted from the Power?

Was it because he wasn't good enough?
Didn't work hard enough at time?
Had poor attitude at time?

Assume it was Williams' call but Cahill only gave him the 1 game in 2 years as well.

Was traded for pick 37 (which was Adam Morgan - 3 games in 5 years on the list) - in 98 draft and has gone on to have a wonderful career.

I doubt someone of his character would've fit in at Port. According to all, he is a man if high integrity, moral and values. His character would have been wasted and probably not well received at the Power. Epitomises the Power really.

dodgingandweaving wrote:I doubt someone of his character would've fit in at Port. According to all, he is a man if high integrity, moral and values. His character would have been wasted and probably not well received at the Power. Epitomises the Power really.

You might not have actually noticed but this is "The Power Board", so it would be good if you could keep your trolling to the general AFL section.

Thanks.

dodgingandweaving wrote:I doubt someone of his character would've fit in at Port. According to all, he is a man if high integrity, moral and values. His character would have been wasted and probably not well received at the Power. Epitomises the Power really.

D&W - back up your statement if you believe it. It's poor to just throw out a line like that with nothing to back it up.

He played mainly at Reserves level for Norwood yeah ?

Not much there to warrant Port holding onto him IMO. Win some and lose some. Perhaps a kick up the arse and a change of scenery was
what he needed.

Dogwatcher wrote:

dodgingandweaving wrote:I doubt someone of his character would've fit in at Port. According to all, he is a man if high integrity, moral and values. His character would have been wasted and probably not well received at the Power. Epitomises the Power really.

D&W - back up your statement if you believe it. It's poor to just throw out a line like that with nothing to back it up.

The culture of the club is evident to most i would've thought.
Right from the way they handle social functions, administration, the attitude's of the players on and off the field, the comments made in the media regarding coach/es, trades, de-listings, etc, etc. Thought it was all rather transparent to most, but obviously not.

SJABC wrote:He played mainly at Reserves level for Norwood yeah ?

Not much there to warrant Port holding onto him IMO. Win some and lose some. Perhaps a kick up the arse and a change of scenery was
what he needed.

You're probably right

Certainly don't remember him playing a hell of a lot of league at Norwood and didn't play in their '97 premiership side.

GWW wrote:

dodgingandweaving wrote:I doubt someone of his character would've fit in at Port. According to all, he is a man if high integrity, moral and values. His character would have been wasted and probably not well received at the Power. Epitomises the Power really.

You might not have actually noticed but this is "The Power Board", so it would be good if you could keep your trolling to the general AFL section.

Thanks.

I know know it's the Power Board, and i'm making a comment on a former Power listed player and why he prospered markedly at another club

When traded in 1998 Port had,Mead,Paxman,Hueskes as well as Fiegert,Daniels,Lockwood and Chalmers all ahead of him in the pecking order.

11 years is a long time ago and decisions made back then are difficult to question today. Sure,was a bad move by Port at the time but I'm sure in 2002-2004 Harley would have liked to have been back at Alberton. Swings and round-abouts.

d&w's comments on the culture at Port Adelaide are ill-informed at best and even more so when talking in reference to trading a player with one game under his belt 11 years ago.

Like it's been mentioned,Power board,no trolls. Even when you tried to back it up you failed.

From wikipedia...

Following their entry into the AFL, Port Adelaide drafted Harley to the club as part of their zone selections, which entitled them to recruit uncontracted players from the SANFL prior to the 1996 National Draft. Struggling to break into the Port Adelaide senior team, Harley often found himself playing in the SANFL reserves for Norwood during the 1997 season. There, he helped the reserves team reach the Grand Final, where they were defeated by the Port Magpies. Harley's contributions in the reserves team throughout the year saw him promoted to the senior Norwood side, where he featured in two of their SANFL finals before missing selection for the Grand Final.
Harley continued to ply his trade in the reserves during the 1998 season, before being rewarded mid-season with a senior team debut in round fourteen against Geelong. The team opted to use Harley sparingly off the bench, with Harley's only meaningful contribution being a late goal scored with his only kick for the game. Returning to the Norwood reserves team, Harley helped the team reach their second successive Grand Final appearance against the Port Magpies and capture the reserves premiership. However, after struggling to break into the senior side, Harley was traded to Geelong during the off-season for the 37th pick in the 1998 National Draft.

In essence he was picked from obscurity in the first place.

Harley didn't look like a great prospect when he was at Norwood.
He seems to have been a late developer, who became a solid reliable player, rather than the "star" type that would appeal to the more emotional in the footy world.
Heuskes seemed to have been the opposite but burned out.

Booney wrote:When traded in 1998 Port had,Mead,Paxman,Hueskes as well as Fiegert,Daniels,Lockwood and Chalmers all ahead of him in the pecking order.

11 years is a long time ago and decisions made back then are difficult to question today. Sure,was a bad move by Port at the time but I'm sure in 2002-2004 Harley would have liked to have been back at Alberton. Swings and round-abouts.

Here endeth the thread. Port and or Choco didn't stuff it up, Harley improved once he came to Geelong. Both clubs had dominant periods during the last decade and had Harley had stayed at Port perhaps he might never have gone on to achieve what he has achieved in the game. We love the Tomcat at Geelong but I'm not so sure about keeping him on the list to get to 200 matches. Hopefully Tom sees the writing on the wall and does what is best for the club. Not sure how much he is getting but we need to free up some cash. Gilles, Hunt and Hogan will all be battling to get into that back six next year.

regards,

REB

Rik E Boy wrote:

Booney wrote:When traded in 1998 Port had,Mead,Paxman,Hueskes as well as Fiegert,Daniels,Lockwood and Chalmers all ahead of him in the pecking order.

11 years is a long time ago and decisions made back then are difficult to question today. Sure,was a bad move by Port at the time but I'm sure in 2002-2004 Harley would have liked to have been back at Alberton. Swings and round-abouts.

Here endeth the thread. Port and or Choco didn't stuff it up, Harley improved once he came to Geelong. Both clubs had dominant periods during the last decade and had Harley had stayed at Port perhaps he might never have gone on to achieve what he has achieved in the game. We love the Tomcat at Geelong but I'm not so sure about keeping him on the list to get to 200 matches. Hopefully Tom sees the writing on the wall and does what is best for the club. Not sure how much he is getting but we need to free up some cash. Gilles, Hunt and Hogan will all be battling to get into that back six next year.

regards,

REB

Dodging and Weaving, you are a fool.
Every club, yes - even your precious little Crowettes have let go of good players who do well at other clubs, just as they also fail to take draft selections that turn out to be superstars. Every club makes mistakes at times putting all their eggs in a basket (eg. Wayne Carey) and finish with some of it on their face. Please don't talk here about club culture, because Adelaide has had more than it's share of mediocrity as well. Just look at some of their pathetic performances in the early days pre-Blight. Sure, Port have had some performance issues in the last few years, but your team are still a long way off greatness, and I bet their win/loss record over their history isn't any more impressive than Ports.

Ruben Carter wrote: Please don't talk here about club culture, because Adelaide has had more than it's share of mediocrity as well. Just look at some of their pathetic performances in the early days pre-Blight. Sure, Port have had some performance issues in the last few years, but your team are still a long way off greatness, and I bet their win/loss record over their history isn't any more impressive than Ports.

Crows vs. Port

P 27 Ad 13 PA 14 Adelaide success rate 48.15 %

Adelaide since 1991

P 442 W 235 L 206 D 1 Adelaide success rate 53.02%


Port vs. Crows

P 27 pa 14 Ad 13 Port success rate 51.85%

Port since 1997

P 303 W 165 L 134 D 4 Port success rate 54.85%

PREMIERSHIPS

Adelaide 10.5% Port 7.7%

In other words, two fairly successful clubs so far.

regards,

REB

Port done did the right thing by young Tom.

If not for the trade to Geelong, he wouldn't have added to his one AFL game...

Some players dont hit their straps until later in their career. Another example of why early to mid-20s age SANFL/WAFL players shouldn't be disregarded over 18 year olds

dodgingandweaving wrote:I doubt someone of his character would've fit in at Port. According to all, he is a man if high integrity, moral and values. His character would have been wasted and probably not well received at the Power. Epitomises the Power really.