Bernie Vince - get on him for the Club Champion award.

[FD88]

Seeing and hearing about his form in this year's pre season has gone a long way to conVINCEing me that he is bound for 1st tier status. When first drafted there were queries over his pace but he has since picked a yard or so up to be quite adequate for this level, and when you consider blokes like Bartel are arguably slower you can see it's no barrier. His footskills are sublime in all situations and his hands are as clean as you will see, not to mention his exceptional vision and ability to weave through traffic. I'd also go so far as to say that for effective extraction of the ball from congestion he is the best we've got. There are other strengths to consider - his overhead marking is probably the best of any midfielder in our 22, and his conversion in front of the big sticks, especially at key moments, is top notch.

Having got his first full pre season under the belt in 2008 we saw significant steps foward from the kid - highlights included a dominant midfield display against Sydney, a Showdown Medal-winning performance against Port, and his 30 possession 3 goal effort against Richmond at the G. He also performed against last year's premier with 24 possessions and a goal. Not only did he rack the touches up, he was genuinely damaging.

From what we've been told his pre season in preparation for 2009 has been completed without a hitch, which means he'll be fitter, stronger and faster this year to go with the experience picked up last season. If you asked me to pick our top 4 finishers in the club champion award he would be in that group, shaded only by Bock at this stage. Of course, Bock is 26 so we're probably seeing the best of him right now. Bernie's got plenty of improvement left, so I wouldn't be putting anything out of reach; consideration for AA, our highest vote getter in this year's Brownlow, these are the sorts of achievements I believe he's heading for in season 2009.

Sink a few dollars on him for the gold jacket.

[Drop Bear]

He's 2008 improved dramatically after the win against West Coast when I gave him a rev up in the Crow's Shed about getting me more Dream Team points. Personally, I can't believe I went into the 'Shed', but it had been a big day of free piss.

[NFC]

I just checked DT prices...

VINCE, Bernie
$335,700

Does anyone else think that's got the potential to be insanely good value? He can go off and score huge!

[Blue Boy]

I just checked DT prices...

VINCE, Bernie
$335,700

Does anyone else think that's got the potential to be insanely good value? He can go off and score huge!

Named on the ball !!!

[NFC]

I really wished I picked him now.

[FD88]

I really wished I picked him now.

He's my dream team captain

33 possessions today in a BOG effort. Gun!

[DILLIGAF]

one of the first i picked with bock and ablett he is real good value

[JK]

$9 with the sponsors, plus for that price you get every player other than Bock, Thompson, Edwards, Goodwin, McLeod and Porplyzia ... You guys that have watched the Crows thus far, how do you think he would be travelling at this stage?

[FD88]

$9 with the sponsors, plus for that price you get every player other than Bock, Thompson, Edwards, Goodwin, McLeod and Porplyzia ... You guys that have watched the Crows thus far, how do you think he would be travelling at this stage?

Averaging 25.7 disposals and over 100 DT points. He would be tracking top 5 in the B&F right now you'd think, and would be higher if not for a couple of quiet games in with the rippers. Should he put the consistency together particularly in the second half of the season he'll be a real good thing.

[Zathrus]

Seeing and hearing about his form in this year's pre season has gone a long way to conVINCEing me that he is bound for 1st tier status. When first drafted there were queries over his pace but he has since picked a yard or so up to be quite adequate for this level, and when you consider blokes like Bartel are arguably slower you can see it's no barrier. His footskills are sublime in all situations and his hands are as clean as you will see, not to mention his exceptional vision and ability to weave through traffic. I'd also go so far as to say that for effective extraction of the ball from congestion he is the best we've got. There are other strengths to consider - his overhead marking is probably the best of any midfielder in our 22, and his conversion in front of the big sticks, especially at key moments, is top notch.

Having got his first full pre season under the belt in 2008 we saw significant steps foward from the kid - highlights included a dominant midfield display against Sydney, a Showdown Medal-winning performance against Port, and his 30 possession 3 goal effort against Richmond at the G. He also performed against last year's premier with 24 possessions and a goal. Not only did he rack the touches up, he was genuinely damaging.

From what we've been told his pre season in preparation for 2009 has been completed without a hitch, which means he'll be fitter, stronger and faster this year to go with the experience picked up last season. If you asked me to pick our top 4 finishers in the club champion award he would be in that group, shaded only by Bock at this stage. Of course, Bock is 26 so we're probably seeing the best of him right now. Bernie's got plenty of improvement left, so I wouldn't be putting anything out of reach; consideration for AA, our highest vote getter in this year's Brownlow, these are the sorts of achievements I believe he's heading for in season 2009.

Sink a few dollars on him for the gold jacket.

good call..........

[the big bang]

not bad FD88. not bad at all!

[BestHumanEver]

Does anyone even take bets for club b and f's?

[Browny25]

i'm getting on Bernie for the brownlow next year!

[Gingernuts]

i'm getting on Bernie for the brownlow next year!

I'm with you there browny, reckon I'll bet on him as my smoky for next year. Barring injury he will be around the mark for sure.

[Browny25]

He'll be decent odds so why not?

Might multi him with the Crows to make 8.

[FD88]

Congrats to Bernie Vince on his first Club Champion award! Not long before he is known as our best player I think. Some would argue he already is.

[Zathrus]

Congrats to Bernie Vince on his first Club Champion award! Not long before he is known as our best player I think. Some would argue he already is.

So, did you have any money on him for the Gold Jacket like you were telling everyone else to in the first post ??