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Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:21 pm
by the joker
5aa have just reported that daniel Kerr has asked for a release of his contract at the end of the year.
i wonder what kind of players West coast will get for him.
Didak and collingwoods first round pick??
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:32 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
id say carlton are a huge chance to get him
collingwood may give west coast leon davis and a pick
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:48 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
West Coast will be doing a very tough deal, at least 1 top 10 draft pick and then some. And somehow I don't know if they'd be all that keen on dealing with Carlton after losing Judd to them for less than their asking price.
The story is Judd has told the Carlton board to get Kerr. If that's the case, should we be asking the real reasons why Judd left West Coast? He was supposed to have left them because of all the problems there, but at the same times very eager to bring those problems to Carlton.
One also has to query how they can afford a $2 million contract to Fevola, around $1.5m to Judd, and also making offers to Kerr and Jon Brown who would command top dollar payments. Then they would also have to negotiate deals for their priority pick draftees in the next year or so. Maybe Carlton's salary cap is a little more rubbery than other clubs.
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:58 pm
by magpie in the 80's
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:20 pm
by lovetotalkfooty
Is there a chance for didak to come to adelaide, van berlo to go to west coast and collingwood get kerr. Also chuck a few draft picks and we could have a deal.
Just a thought
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:42 pm
by Media Park
lovetotalkfooty wrote:Is there a chance for didak to come to adelaide, van berlo to go to west coast and collingwood get kerr. Also chuck a few draft picks and we could have a deal.
Just a thought
Why on earth would the AFC want someone with problems like Didak to come to their club, whilst losing such a bright young player in VB?
Also, if Didak is being offloaded because of his off-field antics (which he is), why would Collingwood want another trouble maker?
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:05 pm
by Psyber
lovetotalkfooty wrote:Is there a chance for didak to come to adelaide, van berlo to go to west coast and collingwood get kerr. Also chuck a few draft picks and we could have a deal.
Just a thought
Not thank you! I'd keep van Berlo over either Didak or Kerr.
I think he'll be the better option over the longer term, partly because he is more likely to stay sober, undrugged, and fit!
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:51 pm
by devilsadvocate
West Coast are kidding themselves if that's true. Especially given this years supposed draft qaulity.
Also agree with comments above - I'd rather have Van Berlo than Didak any day.
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:57 pm
by Dissident
I think a lot of trades will be done with players only this year... or low down picks.
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:16 pm
by Dutchy
Big difference here is Kerr is contracted so unless WCE are satisfied with the trade he cannot move, he either plays the year with WCE or stands out of football....
I agree Carlton cannot put Kerr, Judd, Fev and Stevens all under the cap...there must already be some young players on low wages...
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:30 pm
by gadj1976
Don't kid yourselves. Judd's contract will be written down to nearly nothing in an attempt to get Kerr, if he's serious about having Kerr there. Any loss will be reimbursed (and some) by Visy.
I don't think Judd's reason for leaving West Coast was Kerr related. I think it had more to do with Cousins. On the Couch had Judd on a few weeks ago and he looked very edgy discussing Cousins.
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:06 am
by McAlmanac
I can't see first round picks being traded for some time with the Gold Coast scenario. I also can't see Visy (ie. Pratt) doing anything remotely perceived as dodgy in the short term.
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:09 am
by norm11
They can have surjan and lonie and our second draft pick
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:45 am
by gadj1976
McAlmanac wrote:I can't see first round picks being traded for some time with the Gold Coast scenario. I also can't see Visy (ie. Pratt) doing anything remotely perceived as dodgy in the short term.
Putting someone on as your "green" spokesperson isn't dodgy, it's legal, but how much are they paying him to do so? I would think it's not in proportion with his time spent with Visy.
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:29 am
by Rik E Boy
Chris Judd is a 'green ambassador', a spokesman on recyclying employed by guess, who Visyboard. Visy or course is run by Carlton president Dick Pratt, a man who pumped millions into the Carlton Football Club. This solved a real problem for the AFL as Carlton were beginning to look like Fitzroy for a while there and if the mighty Blues ever bit the dust the loss of customers for the AFL would be a real blow in the collective hip pocket. Thus Dick Pratt is not only the 'White Knight' for the Carlton Football Club but also by extension the AFL as well. This means that the AFL approved Judd's green ambassador role but what I don't know of course is just how much money is paid by Visy to the Carlton skipper.
Now you don't have to go too far back to remember that Essendon players were attempting to register domain names (as they are the only club that controls its own online presence) but this deal was knocked back by the AFL as this was deemed to be under the salary cap (but Judd's Visy deal is not). When you think about the above you can start to understand why. Carlton never has and never will respect the salary cap and the AFL wants Pratt's millions with Victorian clubs once again on the rise. They dearly would like to see Collingwood AND Carlton in the eight sooner rather than later.
This means that Kerr is a very good chance to come to Carlton next season even though their weaknesses are in the ruck (at least until Hampson and Kruezer fully develop) and in key positions in the backline. It won't be any salary cap considerations that stop the Kerr move. But I believe that Kerr is the biggest frontrunner in the league. When playing for a winning club he thrives as a second or third midfielder but when the heat is on he starts swinging in Jeff Farmer fashion. Carlton have Andy D blowing them under the table but still don't have an idea about building a list without tanking or scamming the cap. They are a club I find impossible to respect.
regards,
REB
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:08 am
by Rams52
Rik E Boy wrote:Chris Judd is a 'green ambassador', a spokesman on recyclying employed by guess, who Visyboard. Visy or course is run by Carlton president Dick Pratt, a man who pumped millions into the Carlton Football Club. This solved a real problem for the AFL as Carlton were beginning to look like Fitzroy for a while there and if the mighty Blues ever bit the dust the loss of customers for the AFL would be a real blow in the collective hip pocket. Thus Dick Pratt is not only the 'White Knight' for the Carlton Football Club but also by extension the AFL as well. This means that the AFL approved Judd's green ambassador role but what I don't know of course is just how much money is paid by Visy to the Carlton skipper.
Now you don't have to go too far back to remember that Essendon players were attempting to register domain names (as they are the only club that controls its own online presence) but this deal was knocked back by the AFL as this was deemed to be under the salary cap (but Judd's Visy deal is not). When you think about the above you can start to understand why. Carlton never has and never will respect the salary cap and the AFL wants Pratt's millions with Victorian clubs once again on the rise. They dearly would like to see Collingwood AND Carlton in the eight sooner rather than later.
This means that Kerr is a very good chance to come to Carlton next season even though their weaknesses are in the ruck (at least until Hampson and Kruezer fully develop) and in key positions in the backline. It won't be any salary cap considerations that stop the Kerr move. But I believe that Kerr is the biggest frontrunner in the league. When playing for a winning club he thrives as a second or third midfielder but when the heat is on he starts swinging in Jeff Farmer fashion. Carlton have Andy D blowing them under the table but still don't have an idea about building a list without tanking or scamming the cap. They are a club I find impossible to respect.
regards,
REB
Not bitter about '95GF are we?

Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:19 am
by rod_rooster
Rik E Boy wrote:Chris Judd is a 'green ambassador', a spokesman on recyclying employed by guess, who Visyboard. Visy or course is run by Carlton president Dick Pratt, a man who pumped millions into the Carlton Football Club. This solved a real problem for the AFL as Carlton were beginning to look like Fitzroy for a while there and if the mighty Blues ever bit the dust the loss of customers for the AFL would be a real blow in the collective hip pocket. Thus Dick Pratt is not only the 'White Knight' for the Carlton Football Club but also by extension the AFL as well. This means that the AFL approved Judd's green ambassador role but what I don't know of course is just how much money is paid by Visy to the Carlton skipper.
Now you don't have to go too far back to remember that Essendon players were attempting to register domain names (as they are the only club that controls its own online presence) but this deal was knocked back by the AFL as this was deemed to be under the salary cap (but Judd's Visy deal is not). When you think about the above you can start to understand why. Carlton never has and never will respect the salary cap and the AFL wants Pratt's millions with Victorian clubs once again on the rise. They dearly would like to see Collingwood AND Carlton in the eight sooner rather than later.
This means that Kerr is a very good chance to come to Carlton next season even though their weaknesses are in the ruck (at least until Hampson and Kruezer fully develop) and in key positions in the backline. It won't be any salary cap considerations that stop the Kerr move. But I believe that Kerr is the biggest frontrunner in the league. When playing for a winning club he thrives as a second or third midfielder but when the heat is on he starts swinging in Jeff Farmer fashion. Carlton have Andy D blowing them under the table but still don't have an idea about building a list without tanking or scamming the cap. They are a club I find impossible to respect.
regards,
REB
Excellent post REB. Have to agree with all of that.
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:41 am
by Dutchy
The other point here regarding Carlton is, would you really want him?
If I was a Carlton fan Id be disappointed that they arent developing their juniors, but doing a Sydney and getting the Foreign Leigon into their midfield, is this sustainable in the long term? No.....
lets have a look -
Stevens - Port
Judd - WCE
Scotland - Collingwood
Cloke - Collingwood
Ackland - Power/Saints
add Hadley, Saddington, Pfeiffer also...
add Kerr (and potential targets White/Brogan/Lade) and their aint too many "Blue Boys" there....
How are Murphy, Carazzo and Gibbsy going to get experience? Might find them wanting out...
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:54 am
by gadj1976
Rik E Boy wrote:Chris Judd is a 'green ambassador', a spokesman on recyclying employed by guess, who Visyboard. Visy or course is run by Carlton president Dick Pratt, a man who pumped millions into the Carlton Football Club. This solved a real problem for the AFL as Carlton were beginning to look like Fitzroy for a while there and if the mighty Blues ever bit the dust the loss of customers for the AFL would be a real blow in the collective hip pocket. Thus Dick Pratt is not only the 'White Knight' for the Carlton Football Club but also by extension the AFL as well. This means that the AFL approved Judd's green ambassador role but what I don't know of course is just how much money is paid by Visy to the Carlton skipper.
Now you don't have to go too far back to remember that Essendon players were attempting to register domain names (as they are the only club that controls its own online presence) but this deal was knocked back by the AFL as this was deemed to be under the salary cap (but Judd's Visy deal is not). When you think about the above you can start to understand why. Carlton never has and never will respect the salary cap and the AFL wants Pratt's millions with Victorian clubs once again on the rise. They dearly would like to see Collingwood AND Carlton in the eight sooner rather than later.
This means that Kerr is a very good chance to come to Carlton next season even though their weaknesses are in the ruck (at least until Hampson and Kruezer fully develop) and in key positions in the backline. It won't be any salary cap considerations that stop the Kerr move. But I believe that Kerr is the biggest frontrunner in the league. When playing for a winning club he thrives as a second or third midfielder but when the heat is on he starts swinging in Jeff Farmer fashion. Carlton have Andy D blowing them under the table but still don't have an idea about building a list without tanking or scamming the cap. They are a club I find impossible to respect.
regards,
REB
Carlton aren't the ONLY ones who'd do such a thing. Every club would do it, despite what people harp on about the salary cap and cheating.
Re: Daniel Kerr

Posted:
Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:59 am
by Dutchy
Judd's job at Visy, when he gets out from under the desk....
