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Postby the joker » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:21 pm

5aa have just reported that daniel Kerr has asked for a release of his contract at the end of the year.

i wonder what kind of players West coast will get for him.
Didak and collingwoods first round pick??
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:32 pm

id say carlton are a huge chance to get him

collingwood may give west coast leon davis and a pick
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:48 pm

West Coast will be doing a very tough deal, at least 1 top 10 draft pick and then some. And somehow I don't know if they'd be all that keen on dealing with Carlton after losing Judd to them for less than their asking price.

The story is Judd has told the Carlton board to get Kerr. If that's the case, should we be asking the real reasons why Judd left West Coast? He was supposed to have left them because of all the problems there, but at the same times very eager to bring those problems to Carlton.

One also has to query how they can afford a $2 million contract to Fevola, around $1.5m to Judd, and also making offers to Kerr and Jon Brown who would command top dollar payments. Then they would also have to negotiate deals for their priority pick draftees in the next year or so. Maybe Carlton's salary cap is a little more rubbery than other clubs.
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby magpie in the 80's » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:58 pm

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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby lovetotalkfooty » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:20 pm

Is there a chance for didak to come to adelaide, van berlo to go to west coast and collingwood get kerr. Also chuck a few draft picks and we could have a deal.

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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby Media Park » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:42 pm

lovetotalkfooty wrote:Is there a chance for didak to come to adelaide, van berlo to go to west coast and collingwood get kerr. Also chuck a few draft picks and we could have a deal.

Just a thought


Why on earth would the AFC want someone with problems like Didak to come to their club, whilst losing such a bright young player in VB?
Also, if Didak is being offloaded because of his off-field antics (which he is), why would Collingwood want another trouble maker?
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby Psyber » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:05 pm

lovetotalkfooty wrote:Is there a chance for didak to come to adelaide, van berlo to go to west coast and collingwood get kerr. Also chuck a few draft picks and we could have a deal.

Just a thought

Not thank you! I'd keep van Berlo over either Didak or Kerr.
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby devilsadvocate » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:51 pm

magpie in the 80's wrote:read this earlier today

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 12,00.html


West Coast are kidding themselves if that's true. Especially given this years supposed draft qaulity.

Also agree with comments above - I'd rather have Van Berlo than Didak any day.
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby Dissident » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:57 pm

I think a lot of trades will be done with players only this year... or low down picks.
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby Dutchy » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:16 pm

Big difference here is Kerr is contracted so unless WCE are satisfied with the trade he cannot move, he either plays the year with WCE or stands out of football....

I agree Carlton cannot put Kerr, Judd, Fev and Stevens all under the cap...there must already be some young players on low wages...
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby gadj1976 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:30 pm

Don't kid yourselves. Judd's contract will be written down to nearly nothing in an attempt to get Kerr, if he's serious about having Kerr there. Any loss will be reimbursed (and some) by Visy.

I don't think Judd's reason for leaving West Coast was Kerr related. I think it had more to do with Cousins. On the Couch had Judd on a few weeks ago and he looked very edgy discussing Cousins.
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby McAlmanac » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:06 am

I can't see first round picks being traded for some time with the Gold Coast scenario. I also can't see Visy (ie. Pratt) doing anything remotely perceived as dodgy in the short term.
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby norm11 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:09 am

They can have surjan and lonie and our second draft pick
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby gadj1976 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:45 am

McAlmanac wrote:I can't see first round picks being traded for some time with the Gold Coast scenario. I also can't see Visy (ie. Pratt) doing anything remotely perceived as dodgy in the short term.


Putting someone on as your "green" spokesperson isn't dodgy, it's legal, but how much are they paying him to do so? I would think it's not in proportion with his time spent with Visy.
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:29 am

Chris Judd is a 'green ambassador', a spokesman on recyclying employed by guess, who Visyboard. Visy or course is run by Carlton president Dick Pratt, a man who pumped millions into the Carlton Football Club. This solved a real problem for the AFL as Carlton were beginning to look like Fitzroy for a while there and if the mighty Blues ever bit the dust the loss of customers for the AFL would be a real blow in the collective hip pocket. Thus Dick Pratt is not only the 'White Knight' for the Carlton Football Club but also by extension the AFL as well. This means that the AFL approved Judd's green ambassador role but what I don't know of course is just how much money is paid by Visy to the Carlton skipper.

Now you don't have to go too far back to remember that Essendon players were attempting to register domain names (as they are the only club that controls its own online presence) but this deal was knocked back by the AFL as this was deemed to be under the salary cap (but Judd's Visy deal is not). When you think about the above you can start to understand why. Carlton never has and never will respect the salary cap and the AFL wants Pratt's millions with Victorian clubs once again on the rise. They dearly would like to see Collingwood AND Carlton in the eight sooner rather than later.

This means that Kerr is a very good chance to come to Carlton next season even though their weaknesses are in the ruck (at least until Hampson and Kruezer fully develop) and in key positions in the backline. It won't be any salary cap considerations that stop the Kerr move. But I believe that Kerr is the biggest frontrunner in the league. When playing for a winning club he thrives as a second or third midfielder but when the heat is on he starts swinging in Jeff Farmer fashion. Carlton have Andy D blowing them under the table but still don't have an idea about building a list without tanking or scamming the cap. They are a club I find impossible to respect.

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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby Rams52 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:08 am

Rik E Boy wrote:Chris Judd is a 'green ambassador', a spokesman on recyclying employed by guess, who Visyboard. Visy or course is run by Carlton president Dick Pratt, a man who pumped millions into the Carlton Football Club. This solved a real problem for the AFL as Carlton were beginning to look like Fitzroy for a while there and if the mighty Blues ever bit the dust the loss of customers for the AFL would be a real blow in the collective hip pocket. Thus Dick Pratt is not only the 'White Knight' for the Carlton Football Club but also by extension the AFL as well. This means that the AFL approved Judd's green ambassador role but what I don't know of course is just how much money is paid by Visy to the Carlton skipper.

Now you don't have to go too far back to remember that Essendon players were attempting to register domain names (as they are the only club that controls its own online presence) but this deal was knocked back by the AFL as this was deemed to be under the salary cap (but Judd's Visy deal is not). When you think about the above you can start to understand why. Carlton never has and never will respect the salary cap and the AFL wants Pratt's millions with Victorian clubs once again on the rise. They dearly would like to see Collingwood AND Carlton in the eight sooner rather than later.

This means that Kerr is a very good chance to come to Carlton next season even though their weaknesses are in the ruck (at least until Hampson and Kruezer fully develop) and in key positions in the backline. It won't be any salary cap considerations that stop the Kerr move. But I believe that Kerr is the biggest frontrunner in the league. When playing for a winning club he thrives as a second or third midfielder but when the heat is on he starts swinging in Jeff Farmer fashion. Carlton have Andy D blowing them under the table but still don't have an idea about building a list without tanking or scamming the cap. They are a club I find impossible to respect.

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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby rod_rooster » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:19 am

Rik E Boy wrote:Chris Judd is a 'green ambassador', a spokesman on recyclying employed by guess, who Visyboard. Visy or course is run by Carlton president Dick Pratt, a man who pumped millions into the Carlton Football Club. This solved a real problem for the AFL as Carlton were beginning to look like Fitzroy for a while there and if the mighty Blues ever bit the dust the loss of customers for the AFL would be a real blow in the collective hip pocket. Thus Dick Pratt is not only the 'White Knight' for the Carlton Football Club but also by extension the AFL as well. This means that the AFL approved Judd's green ambassador role but what I don't know of course is just how much money is paid by Visy to the Carlton skipper.

Now you don't have to go too far back to remember that Essendon players were attempting to register domain names (as they are the only club that controls its own online presence) but this deal was knocked back by the AFL as this was deemed to be under the salary cap (but Judd's Visy deal is not). When you think about the above you can start to understand why. Carlton never has and never will respect the salary cap and the AFL wants Pratt's millions with Victorian clubs once again on the rise. They dearly would like to see Collingwood AND Carlton in the eight sooner rather than later.

This means that Kerr is a very good chance to come to Carlton next season even though their weaknesses are in the ruck (at least until Hampson and Kruezer fully develop) and in key positions in the backline. It won't be any salary cap considerations that stop the Kerr move. But I believe that Kerr is the biggest frontrunner in the league. When playing for a winning club he thrives as a second or third midfielder but when the heat is on he starts swinging in Jeff Farmer fashion. Carlton have Andy D blowing them under the table but still don't have an idea about building a list without tanking or scamming the cap. They are a club I find impossible to respect.

regards,

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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby Dutchy » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:41 am

The other point here regarding Carlton is, would you really want him?

If I was a Carlton fan Id be disappointed that they arent developing their juniors, but doing a Sydney and getting the Foreign Leigon into their midfield, is this sustainable in the long term? No.....

lets have a look -

Stevens - Port
Judd - WCE
Scotland - Collingwood
Cloke - Collingwood
Ackland - Power/Saints

add Hadley, Saddington, Pfeiffer also...

add Kerr (and potential targets White/Brogan/Lade) and their aint too many "Blue Boys" there....

How are Murphy, Carazzo and Gibbsy going to get experience? Might find them wanting out...
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby gadj1976 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:54 am

Rik E Boy wrote:Chris Judd is a 'green ambassador', a spokesman on recyclying employed by guess, who Visyboard. Visy or course is run by Carlton president Dick Pratt, a man who pumped millions into the Carlton Football Club. This solved a real problem for the AFL as Carlton were beginning to look like Fitzroy for a while there and if the mighty Blues ever bit the dust the loss of customers for the AFL would be a real blow in the collective hip pocket. Thus Dick Pratt is not only the 'White Knight' for the Carlton Football Club but also by extension the AFL as well. This means that the AFL approved Judd's green ambassador role but what I don't know of course is just how much money is paid by Visy to the Carlton skipper.

Now you don't have to go too far back to remember that Essendon players were attempting to register domain names (as they are the only club that controls its own online presence) but this deal was knocked back by the AFL as this was deemed to be under the salary cap (but Judd's Visy deal is not). When you think about the above you can start to understand why. Carlton never has and never will respect the salary cap and the AFL wants Pratt's millions with Victorian clubs once again on the rise. They dearly would like to see Collingwood AND Carlton in the eight sooner rather than later.

This means that Kerr is a very good chance to come to Carlton next season even though their weaknesses are in the ruck (at least until Hampson and Kruezer fully develop) and in key positions in the backline. It won't be any salary cap considerations that stop the Kerr move. But I believe that Kerr is the biggest frontrunner in the league. When playing for a winning club he thrives as a second or third midfielder but when the heat is on he starts swinging in Jeff Farmer fashion. Carlton have Andy D blowing them under the table but still don't have an idea about building a list without tanking or scamming the cap. They are a club I find impossible to respect.

regards,

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Carlton aren't the ONLY ones who'd do such a thing. Every club would do it, despite what people harp on about the salary cap and cheating.
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Re: Daniel Kerr

Postby Dutchy » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:59 am

Judd's job at Visy, when he gets out from under the desk....

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