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Marlon Motlop to make his debut this week, after Matthew Westhoff made his last week. Players like Farmer, Westhoff and Salter have also been gifted games.

9/10 in tanking scales for mine. All that's required to get the 10 is for Matthew Lobbe or Jonathon Giles to get a crack.

Interesting topic this.

I have been saying to friends for a while what Port are doing,and openly declared they are doing in picking juniors and sending senior players to early surgery,can this be construed by the AFL as bringing the game into disrepute?

If you want to give this process a name and that name is tanking,so be it.For mine 'tanking' in the manner people generally perceive it ( not doing your best to win) is different to what Port is doing.I bet every player that plays or has played for Port this year would be doing their best to win each and every week.

But,by the club declaring the it will pick kids and send seniors to the SANFL or surgery,are we doing all we can to win each game?

Marlon is the second player this year to be selected for AFL duties directly from the SANFL reserves. Effectively the third tier of Football in this country. It shows that 2 weeks ago he is not up to the 2nd tier standard but now he is deemed worthy enough of selection. What drugs are they smoking down at Alberton


if this is not tanking then I don't know what is

So testing out how this lad goes in the AFL, wow what a crime.

Rate the stupidity of this thread...

Mitre 10/10 for me.

I dont think its tanking as such.... but serious questions must be asked....

Brohand and Motlop rested for general soreness last week and this week farmer dropped and p burgoyne(washed up) still in the team after 18 clangers by foot.... cmon what are they doing/thinking this sint following there youth policy surely

and devilsadvocate its not such a supid thread it raises some good questions and questions the theory of port this season and they selection processes of a number of AFL clubs

Raises some questions, but come on it applies to ALL clubs not just Port, and things are like this because this is how the AFL system works.

Footy Smart wrote:and devilsadvocate its not such a supid thread it raises some good questions and questions the theory of port this season and they selection processes of a number of AFL clubs

It is a stupid thread.

You've raised some good questions about Port and their selections yes. But yours is the 6th post. The initial thread was set up to get a reaction out of people like me.

Had the thread been called 'Port's selection processes' and your question and that posd by Booney been raised in the first place, I wouldn't have felt the need for these 2 posts.

So, yes, it is a stupid thread, but has been somewhat redeemed by rational discussion.

It is not a stupid thread at all. You are just getting defensive because you know full well that the Port Adelaide Football Club is not doing all it can in order to win each game. Yes it applies to other sides as well but the fact that Port is doing it so obviously by picking a guy who isn't even playing that well in the SANFL reserves is the reason why they are singled out in this instance.

What does the "Creed" say again? I'm sure that's being adhered to

GWW wrote:Raises some questions, but come on it applies to ALL clubs not just Port, and things are like this because this is how the AFL system works.

Never heard such an out cry. They have pretty much said what there doing, playing juniors and resting players for next season. I have not seen port remove there best player when they are in a winning positing late in a match........

I dont think its a stupid, more like a good troll if anything. Look NFC just wants to take a good swipe at the Power.

Anyway its a good disscussion about list managment. I must say in my opinion when you declare you hand the way port has and still kind of competative (except against carlton) then its not really a huge tank. More list management.

rod_rooster wrote:Yes it applies to other sides as well but the fact that Port is doing it so obviously by picking a guy who isn't even playing that well in the SANFL reserves is the reason why they are singled out in this instance.

Motlops getting about 25 touches a week in the ressies. Its not like hes struggling for a kick.

Im one of Port's biggest critics as most on here would know but I think trying out kids when your season is over is the only way to go, you'd be incompetent (or a Melbourne club in financial poo) to play your full sides as there's no benefit to it.
Get the guys off to hospital who need surgery so they'll be right early on next year and get some info on how the fringe players go in the big league, there is the added bonus of possible higher draft picks.
Its the only way to go and full marks to Chokeoh and Port for going the way they have, a no brainer in my book.

GWW wrote:So testing out how this lad goes in the AFL, wow what a crime.

Your club is a joke. What pride is there left? Can't get 20k to a game less than 12 MONTHS after making a GF. From 2nd to 14th, and last year was meant to be a development year. This year was meant to be the continued improvement of the youngsters such as Pettigrew, Pearce, Surjan ect and they have all stagnated, if not gone backwards. You're fielding teams consisting of players such as Westhoff and Motlop, who have played a combined FIVE SANFL league games. Salter played the week after playing reserves, Williams and Farmer both dumped after 2/3 weeks, Thomson your best young midfielder can't get a game whilst Burgoyne gets called up after not even trying in the SANFL.

Wedgie wrote:Im one of Port's biggest critics as most on here would know but I think trying out kids when your season is over is the only way to go, you'd be incompetent (or a Melbourne club in financial poo) to play your full sides as there's no benefit to it.
Get the guys off to hospital who need surgery so they'll be right early on next year and get some info on how the fringe players go in the big league, there is the added bonus of possible higher draft picks.
Its the only way to go and full marks to Chokeoh and Port for going the way they have, a no brainer in my book.

Wow, what a load of rubbish!

How about he not let things get to such a stage, then I'll give him full marks. Full marks for finishing 14th? Okay then...

Macca19 wrote:

rod_rooster wrote:Yes it applies to other sides as well but the fact that Port is doing it so obviously by picking a guy who isn't even playing that well in the SANFL reserves is the reason why they are singled out in this instance.

Motlops getting about 25 touches a week in the ressies. Its not like hes struggling for a kick.

Yeah, 25 touches. Best maybe twice a month, hardly dominating, hardly worthy of AFL selection.

Macca19 wrote:

rod_rooster wrote:Yes it applies to other sides as well but the fact that Port is doing it so obviously by picking a guy who isn't even playing that well in the SANFL reserves is the reason why they are singled out in this instance.

Motlops getting about 25 touches a week in the ressies. Its not like hes struggling for a kick.

Seen him play Macca? It's what you do with the ball that counts not how often you touch it. Regardless an AFL standard player should be getting more than 25 touches in the SANFL reserves. I'm not having a crack at Marlon as i think he will be a great player for Port but he isn't even close to being up to AFL standard yet.

For what it's worth i don't really care what Port are doing. Fact is though rightly or wrongly they are not doing everything they can to win each game. I am not suggesting the players aren't trying but the club as a whole is not. As i said earlier how does the "Creed" go again? Might want to scrap that i'd say.

rod_rooster wrote:

Macca19 wrote:

rod_rooster wrote:Yes it applies to other sides as well but the fact that Port is doing it so obviously by picking a guy who isn't even playing that well in the SANFL reserves is the reason why they are singled out in this instance.

Motlops getting about 25 touches a week in the ressies. Its not like hes struggling for a kick.

Seen him play Macca? It's what you do with the ball that counts not how often you touch it. Regardless an AFL standard player should be getting more than 25 touches in the SANFL reserves.

Ive seen him play a couple of times plus most of his trial games earlier this year where he played quite well.

But yes, he isnt an AFL standard player and I dont think youll find anyone that honestly thinks he is at this point.

NFC wrote:

GWW wrote:So testing out how this lad goes in the AFL, wow what a crime.

Your club is a joke. What pride is there left? Can't get 20k to a game less than 12 MONTHS after making a GF. From 2nd to 14th, and last year was meant to be a development year. This year was meant to be the continued improvement of the youngsters such as Pettigrew, Pearce, Surjan ect and they have all stagnated, if not gone backwards. You're fielding teams consisting of players such as Westhoff and Motlop, who have played a combined FIVE SANFL league games. Salter played the week after playing reserves, Williams and Farmer both dumped after 2/3 weeks, Thomson your best young midfielder can't get a game whilst Burgoyne gets called up after not even trying in the SANFL.

Oh so you're discussing off field or on field matters, make up your mind? THERE IS NOTHING to be gained for a club, as has been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, by playing your number 1 team if you can't make finals, are you the only person in the footy world who doesn't understand this? Not that i particularly respect your judgement as far as judging who is and isn't a worthy footballer? How good did you say Meesen was and is going to be, isn't he struggling now to make Melbourne's Reserves side, yet according to you he's elite. And Bryce Campbell, you carry on how good he's going to be in the AFL, and although he's an above average SANFL player, hes a plodder at AFL level, so by playing him are the Crows tanking??

Salter played all league games with WWT except one, and played in the state game earlier in the year, why the hell wouldn't the club give him a chance to prove whether or not he'd be worthy of being promoted to the main list, stay on the rookie list, or be cut altogether.

And did you put a thread on here when Jacky made his debut a few months ago saying that the Crows were tanking? No, i didnt think so. Likewise Sellar, playing Reserves for Glenelg and then playing AFL, its all about clubs ascertaining how their players go at AFL level, its just bloody childish to come on here and say they're tanking because they're assessing their junior talent.

GWW wrote:Oh so you're discussing off field or on field matters, make up your mind? THERE IS NOTHING to be gained for a club, as has been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, by playing your number 1 team if you can't make finals, are you the only person in the footy world who doesn't understand this? Not that i particularly respect your judgement as far as judging who is and isn't a worthy footballer? How good did you say Meesen was and is going to be, isn't he struggling now to make Melbourne's Reserves side, yet according to you he's elite. And Bryce Campbell, you carry on how good he's going to be in the AFL, and although he's an above average SANFL player, hes a plodder at AFL level, so by playing him are the Crows tanking??

Salter played all league games with WWT except one, and played in the state game earlier in the year, why the hell wouldn't the club give him a chance to prove whether or not he'd be worthy of being promoted to the main list, stay on the rookie list, or be cut altogether.

And did you put a thread on here when Jacky made his debut a few months ago saying that the Crows were tanking? No, i didnt think so. Likewise Sellar, playing Reserves for Glenelg and then playing AFL, its all about clubs ascertaining how their players go at AFL level, its just bloody childish to come on here and say they're tanking because they're assessing their junior talent.

Haha one sentence about the crowd and I'm discussing off field stuff and can't make up my mind? Really clutching at straws there. Playing Campbell means the club is tanking? Not sure about you but last time I checked we were a chance for top 4…

Sellar didn’t play reserves before he played for Adelaide; get your facts straight. Jacky clearly wasn’t AFL ready, but we were in a good position when we played, so that is completely different to what Port are currently doing. There is pride to be gained by playing out the season with the objective of winning, what Port are doing is pathetic. 14th now? If there were a few more rounds you would be wooden spooners, but hey, some more nice picks to be thrilled about! Don't waste it on another Lobbe though!