Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

[Blue Boy]

Im really in shock that the Crows have gone down this path and will really need to take all facts in to consideration but @ this early stage i am fumin big time.

It is the crows top pick this year and Im feelin that they have waisted it again.

Brad Ebert has played league football and every time I have seen have thought that this kid will do real well @ AFL level. You simply cant beat football smarts @ all. He is from Adelaide and could be a silly chance to play for the Crows next year as mostl top 10 picks should be able to do.

Patrick Dangerfield has played @ best under 18s and I havent seen him play but hes must be an absolute star . He is staying in Melboune next year to finish year 12 which I do not begrudge him but this means he will not play for the Crows next year @ all.

Why have the Crows used there top pick on someone who will not play league football next year.

[NFC]

Why have the Crows used there top pick on someone who will not play league football next year.

Because they obviously feel he's worth the wait.

However I agree, it's a huge risk and we would've been better served getting Ebert. However Dangerfield has some excellent tools which will see him develop into a fine player.

[Hondo]

The word from the club is they are wrapped to get Dangerfield

Heard him interviewed on the radio and he sounded very good & committed

Studying in Melbourne doesn't mean he can't play for us if he is ready - but for a 17 year old better that than come over here just yet. Who has said he definitely won't play for us in 2008?

On paper he looks a great pick-up a speedy midfielder is just what the doctor ordered

Ebert seemed to slip further down as each week went by at one stage no-one thought he'd be available at 10 & ended up dropping to 13th

Blue-Boy we'll have to wait a couple of seasons on this to assess it don't jump to conclusions too quick its natural we in SA know more about Ebert than we do about Dangerfield

[sydney-dog]

Blue Boy

As I said in the previous thread... your question

Why have the Crows used there top pick on someone who will not play league football next year.

why do you take such a narrow view ??

It's not just about next season, it's about the next 10 season, I honestly believe Dangerfield has more to offer the AFC and the modern game than Ebert..

Ebert will become a solid AFL player, however, he will always have a strong lure to return to the Power, he said this in an interview earlier in the year....

Dangerfield, has the courage and discipline to play as a defensive or inside midfielder or as a defender, he also has blistering speed to play as an outside midfielder, most importantly his stoppage and clearance work is Judd like, most importantly he takes the game on, he runs the lines and carries the ball and is very strong over head

The Geelong Falcon's have a fantastic football development program, and a reputation at producing Elite players "Judd", Dangerfield won their Best Player in 2007

The safe decision was to take Ebert, the AFC has shown some courage in drafting Dangerfield, I have no doubt, Dangerfield will reward the club and supporters, IMO, this kid is a Gun and a better footballer than Ebert, lets remember the AFC were not the only club to pass on Ebert.....

Most importantly, 8 seasons ago the crows passed on the big Pav, reason was, as a 17 year Pav decisded he would not play the following season, now the club is still paying for that decision....

the AFC is not the first club to recruit a 17 year old high in the draft, and not to have him available the following year due to schooling.....

As a member of the AFC, I am happy with today's draft, I was hoping for speed and players that offer flexibility, Dangerfield, Cook, Otten and Jacky offer these qualities and much more

Well done AFC for not playing safe with Pick 10

[sydney-dog]

NFC

what about your gun player Pfieffer ??, you remember, the player the crows had no idea about and sacked....

who picked him up today ?

[sydney-dog]

People also need to remember, Dangerfield, Kite and Walker are all 17 years old and barely qualified for this years draft..... they are at the bottom end of the age group and it would be a huge effort for any of these players to play AFL next year

the club believe Dangerfield is in the top 2, 17 year olds in the country, while Kite had the ability to be a top 10 pick in next years draft....

Regardless of studies, Dangerfield would not of played much AFL next year, however, after another year at TAC level, plus playing some SANFL games, he will be good to go in 2009.....

I heard the kid being interviewed earlier in the day, he is very impressive, he said, being from Geelong, Adelaide life style suits him just nicely

[Booney]

Hey,I dont mind talking to myslef while Crows fans watch!

[twosheds]

The word from the club is they are wrapped to get Dangerfield

Heard him interviewed on the radio and he sounded very good & committed

Studying in Melbourne doesn't mean he can't play for us if he is ready - but for a 17 year old better that than come over here just yet. Who has said he definitely won't play for us in 2008?

On paper he looks a great pick-up a speedy midfielder is just what the doctor ordered

Ebert seemed to slip further down as each week went by at one stage no-one thought he'd be available at 10 & ended up dropping to 13th

Blue-Boy we'll have to wait a couple of seasons on this to assess it don't jump to conclusions too quick its natural we in SA know more about Ebert than we do about Dangerfield

I have heard that the club is actually rapt with this choice.

[NFC]

NFC

what about your gun player Pfieffer ??, you remember, the player the crows had no idea about and sacked....

who picked him up today ?

He was always going to go in the PSD. You know that just as well as I do.

And btw, he doesn't go for Port, why would Ebert intend to go back to Port Adelaide?

[NFC]

Well done AFC for not playing safe with Pick 10

But well doen for potentially throwing away a MASSIVE piece of the future?

Seriously mate for as negative as I am you're just as positive. I understand Dangerfield is an excellent prospect but my word it's a huge risk and if it backfires then they deserve all the criticism they cop.

[Hondo]

I understand Dangerfield is an excellent prospect but my word it's a huge risk and if it backfires then they deserve all the criticism they cop.

He was picked by all to go at least top 14 and experts seem agreed he is a gun what makes it such a 'huge' risk? Its not as tho he has gone 20 spots ahead of where he was tipped to go

To me, a 'huge' risk is a developing ruckman as we have done in the past

The risks I assume you mean are 1) age & 2) Victorian ???

[sydney-dog]

NFC

I too would like you to clarify the Huge risk

[Psyber]

I think the strategy of picking up really talented kids before they get more established and finish higher up the rankings than the Crows will have picks for is not a bad one.

If half of them deliver to their potential it will be worth it. The existing list will be OK for a year or two, and hopefully these kids will step up as Goodwin, Edwards, Johncock, and McLeod ease out, and be ready if Vince, Douglas, Reilly, and Porplycia etc. don't develop as much as we hope.

[NFC]

NFC

I too would like you to clarify the Huge risk

You don't see it? Boy, thought it would be fairly evident.

1. Ebert is a local kid. We've had troubles with players wanting to return home and here was a local kid who will play 200 games and has great leadership abilities and we pass on him. I have no issues selecting the best available talent, but gosh, the difference between the two isn't much at all, speed is the clear advantage Dangerfield has. Dangerfield does sound very promising but was it worth it considering he's from Vic, won't be here for 12 months, and we passed up on an excellent local kid?

2. He's not even going to be in SA next year. That alone presents a risk because he won't be training with the club and really we won't have much to do with the club until this time next year.

[Whitelinefever]

Time will tell, I know nothing about this kid so dont consider myself qualified to speak about the decision.
But I have seen a bit of Brett Ebert,looked a very likely type, should fit in well at WC, and be a good player for years to come.
Cheers

[Blue Boy]

Listened to Matt Rendell on radio and the crows rated Dangerfield as the third pick in the draft and actually at one stage had him @ 2 !!!

He also went on to say that all the lads that the crows picked today they rated in the top 31 picks in the darft !!!

If they have got it correct I will be stoked - im gonna leave it @ that for the moment !!!

[am Bays]

After reading this thread, Dangerfield - he gets no respect....

[Rik E Boy]

Dangerfield should come to Adelaide in 2008. If it doesn't work out he can always go back to school ha ha.

regards,

REB

[sydney-dog]

NFC,

This issue of players wanting to return home is over stated, in 16 seasons the Crows have only lost 3 players who have wanted to return home, Stenglien, Watts and Johnson...... this is not bad considering the total number of interstate recruits...

Who is to say, if Adelaide picked up Ebert, that he too would not want to return home, that is to Port Adelaide, Ebert said earlier in the year, "Port is the greatest club in Australia, their will always be a desire to continue the family name at Port"

At pick 10, the crows went for the best footballer availabe, IMO Dangerfield is a better footballer than Ebert, by all reports he has a fantastic character and I have no fears of the kid wanting to return home one day, this kid will play 200 games for the AFC....

In regards to Dangerfield wanting to remain in Geelong in 2008 to finish year 12, this shows the kids maturity, he will complete pre-season with the club, play for Geelong Falcons and some SANFL next season, people have over cooked this issue, in reality, as a 17 year old, he may of had an opprtunity to play couple of games next year, he certainly would not of shaped our season

[fester69]

Dangerfield will end up at Geelong in a couple of years as The Cows poor recruitment history lives on!