Crows in trouble - CHEATS

[goraw]

That's 100% irrelevant. What Tippett ad his manager knew, wanted, asked, demanded or whatever doesn't matter. If the Tippett camp wanted something that was outside the rules it's the Crows job to say no we can't do that, not say yes then spend three years trying to cover it up. If it was the Crows offering those things to Tippett off their own back, that's worse.

I've got no argument with any of what you say above.
What the Crows did was clearly wrong and I do not support their acts in any way.
I'd sack permanently those who made that deal.

The only things I've challenged are the hyperbole about what the consequences would or should be, and Kurt's ridiculous claim of total innocence.

100% agree. those who made this illegal act should just pi$$ off .kurt signed so he is as much to blame ,regardless of what he claims.

[Rik E Boy]

Tippett trying to blame the Crows entirely is hilarious.

Deserves what he got and anyone that is stupid enough to pay him $875,000 a year is destined for a huge fall.

You paid him that, and made a prelim.

yep was just tippett that got us in the prelim and in the top 4 so 2013 looks like we are back in the botton 4

Here's hoping.

regards,

REB

[The Sleeping Giant]

I would like to know why the AFL commission, AFC and the Tippett camp spent all day in a hearing/meeting on Friday. What did they all talk about or do all day? Surely they don’t expect us to believe they were discussing the penalty to be handed out. I read the penalties in the sun on Friday morning.

Oh well all over now got caught out take what’s give now let’s get on with winning a flag! That would make the haters hate even more and that makes me very happy.

Dream on... It's not really hate, it's more disrespect and ambivalence

so do u have disrespect and ambivalence for every club thats ever been charged with doing the wrong thing including Sydney?

What did Sydney do wrong?

[The Sleeping Giant]

I would like to know why the AFL commission, AFC and the Tippett camp spent all day in a hearing/meeting on Friday. What did they all talk about or do all day? Surely they don’t expect us to believe they were discussing the penalty to be handed out. I read the penalties in the sun on Friday morning.

Oh well all over now got caught out take what’s give now let’s get on with winning a flag! That would make the haters hate even more and that makes me very happy.

Media had a 100% strike rate during the whole affair.

[Tassie Blues]

I would like to know why the AFL commission, AFC and the Tippett camp spent all day in a hearing/meeting on Friday. What did they all talk about or do all day? Surely they don’t expect us to believe they were discussing the penalty to be handed out. I read the penalties in the sun on Friday morning.

Oh well all over now got caught out take what’s give now let’s get on with winning a flag! That would make the haters hate even more and that makes me very happy.

Dream on... It's not really hate, it's more disrespect and ambivalence

so do u have disrespect and ambivalence for every club thats ever been charged with doing the wrong thing including Sydney?

What did Sydney do wrong?

* 1987, Sydney were fined the maximum of $60,000 and forfeited their first round pick in the National Draft after a VFL investigation found that they had exceeded the salary cap by $1.15 million during the season.
* In 1992, Sydney were fined $50,000 after it was found that they had failed to disclose payments made to former player Greg Williams during the 1990 season; Williams was suspended for six matches and fined the maximum of $25,000 for accepting the payments.
* In 1995, Sydney were fined $20,000 after key documents relating to player financial details and star full-forward Tony Lockett's contract details were lost in the post by club officials, forcing the club, who had won the last three wooden spoons, to scratch from the 1995 pre-season draft and play the season two players short. The club officials responsible were fired by the Swans one week later.

They have never done anything wrong......

[The Sleeping Giant]

Thought you were talking about the Tippett deal.

Lucky Trigg and Harper didn't work for the Swans in 95.

What source did you get those infringements from? First one seems out of whack.

[RustyCage]

That's 100% irrelevant. What Tippett ad his manager knew, wanted, asked, demanded or whatever doesn't matter. If the Tippett camp wanted something that was outside the rules it's the Crows job to say no we can't do that, not say yes then spend three years trying to cover it up. If it was the Crows offering those things to Tippett off their own back, that's worse.

I've got no argument with any of what you say above.
What the Crows did was clearly wrong and I do not support their acts in any way.
I'd sack permanently those who made that deal.

The only things I've challenged are the hyperbole about what the consequences would or should be, and Kurt's ridiculous claim of total innocence.

100% agree. those who made this illegal act should just pi$$ off .kurt signed so he is as much to blame ,regardless of what he claims.

exactly, even if Tippett didn't know what was going on, he should have

[Rik E Boy]

* 1987, Sydney were fined the maximum of $60,000 and forfeited their first round pick in the National Draft after a VFL investigation found that they had exceeded the salary cap by $1.15 million during the season.
* In 1992, Sydney were fined $50,000 after it was found that they had failed to disclose payments made to former player Greg Williams during the 1990 season; Williams was suspended for six matches and fined the maximum of $25,000 for accepting the payments.
* In 1995, Sydney were fined $20,000 after key documents relating to player financial details and star full-forward Tony Lockett's contract details were lost in the post by club officials, forcing the club, who had won the last three wooden spoons, to scratch from the 1995 pre-season draft and play the season two players short. The club officials responsible were fired by the Swans one week later.

They have never done anything wrong......

Every club has clangers like this. It's Adelaide's turn so suck it up.

regards,

REB

[daysofourlives]

* 1987, Sydney were fined the maximum of $60,000 and forfeited their first round pick in the National Draft after a VFL investigation found that they had exceeded the salary cap by $1.15 million during the season.
* In 1992, Sydney were fined $50,000 after it was found that they had failed to disclose payments made to former player Greg Williams during the 1990 season; Williams was suspended for six matches and fined the maximum of $25,000 for accepting the payments.
* In 1995, Sydney were fined $20,000 after key documents relating to player financial details and star full-forward Tony Lockett's contract details were lost in the post by club officials, forcing the club, who had won the last three wooden spoons, to scratch from the 1995 pre-season draft and play the season two players short. The club officials responsible were fired by the Swans one week later.

They have never done anything wrong......[/quote]

Geez what would Sydney cop now for their 1987 breach? A 10 year ban from the drafts top 2 picks, a couple of million dollar fine, execs banned for life, anything up to say 10 players banned for at least half a season.
Seems to me the Sydney trolls and Crows haters should take a breather.

Maybe if the Crows had 3 breaches in 8 years they too would get a special allowance, call it the "undesirable city to live in allowance"

[Wedgie]

Geezus, talk about clutching at straws when we're going back to what happened in a previous century. Perhaps we should be talking about breaches the Victorian Railways and Northcote clubs got up to in the 19th century too, be about as relevent.

[The Sleeping Giant]

I still want to see a source for this. $1.15m is a fair number to be over. Swans should have received a much bigger punishment than 60k.

[Booney]

I still want to see a source for this. $1.15m is a fair number to be over. Swans should have received a much bigger punishment than 60k.

http://m.news.com.au/AFL/fi1784417.htm

Try typing it into your search engine, plenty of references.

[MatteeG]

I’ve come to the conclusion that a simple name change will keep us all happy.

I give you the “Adelaide Rooks”

As per the dictionary, the definition of a Rook;

1) Rook: An Old World bird (Corvus frugilegus) that resembles the North American crow and nests in colonies near the tops of trees.
2) Rook: A swindler or cheat, especially at games.

Go you Rooks. The Shame of South Australia.

[Chuck Wepner]

I’ve come to the conclusion that a simple name change will keep us all happy.

I give you the “Adelaide Rooks”

As per the dictionary, the definition of a Rook;

1) Rook: An Old World bird (Corvus frugilegus) that resembles the North American crow and nests in colonies near the tops of trees.
2) Rook: A swindler or cheat, especially at games.

o you Rooks. The Shame of South Australia.

[The Sleeping Giant]

I’ve come to the conclusion that a simple name change will keep us all happy.

I give you the “Adelaide Rooks”

As per the dictionary, the definition of a Rook;

1) Rook: An Old World bird (Corvus frugilegus) that resembles the North American crow and nests in colonies near the tops of trees.
2) Rook: A swindler or cheat, especially at games.

o you Rooks. The Shame of South Australia.

Watched a doco on Chuck Wepner last night. Man he could take a beating.

[Psyber]

I’ve come to the conclusion that a simple name change will keep us all happy.

I give you the “Adelaide Rooks”

As per the dictionary, the definition of a Rook;

1) Rook: An Old World bird (Corvus frugilegus) that resembles the North American crow and nests in colonies near the tops of trees.
2) Rook: A swindler or cheat, especially at games.

Go you Rooks. The Shame of South Australia.

IIRC what we actually have in southern SA is the Raven.
Probably this one: Corvus coronoides – Australian Raven
Crows are a north-western creature here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Crow_%28bird%29

Currawongs resemble both but are not Corvids.

Rooks are a Eurasian bird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rook_%28bird%29

[FOURTH ESTATE]

Geezus, talk about clutching at straws when we're going back to what happened in a previous century. Perhaps we should be talking about breaches the Victorian Railways and Northcote clubs got up to in the 19th century too, be about as relevent.

Not so what Northcote got up to must have led to their demise.

[Chuck Wepner]

I’ve come to the conclusion that a simple name change will keep us all happy.

I give you the “Adelaide Rooks”

As per the dictionary, the definition of a Rook;

1) Rook: An Old World bird (Corvus frugilegus) that resembles the North American crow and nests in colonies near the tops of trees.
2) Rook: A swindler or cheat, especially at games.

o you Rooks. The Shame of South Australia.

Watched a doco on Chuck Wepner last night. Man he could take a beating.

Now you know why I don't have an avatar.. don't want to scare the little ones.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Glad to see he got some money out of Stallone.

[Rik E Boy]

I’ve come to the conclusion that a simple name change will keep us all happy.

I give you the “Adelaide Rooks”

As per the dictionary, the definition of a Rook;

1) Rook: An Old World bird (Corvus frugilegus) that resembles the North American crow and nests in colonies near the tops of trees.
2) Rook: A swindler or cheat, especially at games.

Go you Rooks. The Shame of South Australia.

Yeah but at least the players aren't all on [injunction]

regards,

REB