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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu May 28, 2015 9:56 pm

True North wrote:Due to overwhelming peer pressure, I am officially making my first ever post!

So, heading into Round 9, we are looking at the following changes:

In: Broadbent, Clurey, Stewart
Out: Cornes (retired), Ryder (Achilles), Trengove (ankle)

Definitely happy to see Broady back in the side, especially as it was announced he has signed on til 2019. I've been holding my breath hoping to see Colquhoun get selected, but alas another week will go by without him in the side. With Trengove injured, it would be no surprise to most that we will get to see Tom Clurey have a crack. Noted that he has been named in the interchange and was not slotted straight into center half back. I find this curious simply because I've heard (although haven't seen it for myself), word is that he's been playing in the midfield the past few weeks for the Maggies, and shutdown arguably the 2 best SANFL mids: Magarey Medallist Zane Kirkwood(Sturt) and Jack Oatey Medallist Matthew Panos(Norwood). Makes me wonder if he has he come into the side to replace Trengove, or Kane Cornes?? It will definitely be interesting to see the role they end up giving him.

Any thoughts as to who could step up to fill Cornes' shoes?


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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby JK » Thu May 28, 2015 10:00 pm

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If it was for form, they could've chosen 10 other blokes... :lol:

I dare say it was a structural move.


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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby valleys07 » Thu May 28, 2015 11:50 pm

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True North wrote:Due to overwhelming peer pressure, I am officially making my first ever post!

So, heading into Round 9, we are looking at the following changes:

In: Broadbent, Clurey, Stewart
Out: Cornes (retired), Ryder (Achilles), Trengove (ankle)

Definitely happy to see Broady back in the side, especially as it was announced he has signed on til 2019. I've been holding my breath hoping to see Colquhoun get selected, but alas another week will go by without him in the side. With Trengove injured, it would be no surprise to most that we will get to see Tom Clurey have a crack. Noted that he has been named in the interchange and was not slotted straight into center half back. I find this curious simply because I've heard (although haven't seen it for myself), word is that he's been playing in the midfield the past few weeks for the Maggies, and shutdown arguably the 2 best SANFL mids: Magarey Medallist Zane Kirkwood(Sturt) and Jack Oatey Medallist Matthew Panos(Norwood). Makes me wonder if he has he come into the side to replace Trengove, or Kane Cornes?? It will definitely be interesting to see the role they end up giving him.

Any thoughts as to who could step up to fill Cornes' shoes?


I think you're on the money regarding Clurey coming in for Cornes. Essentially it would be a straight swap, with Jonas taking Melbourne's second or third tall.

However, I am disappointed to see Pittard still there. When he's taking the game on and it's working for him, he looks like a Cadillac, but when it doesn't pay off, he looks like a Datsun 180Y. He only performed like the former in Rounds 1, 2 and possibly 3. Moore or Young would be more than adeqaute replacements for him.

I am glad to see Amon get a full game as, like the unfortunately injured Ah Chee, there is much to like about him.

Having Ryder out for 1-2 weeks places more pressure on Lobbe, as if he needs it in the first place. Although Lobbe's form of late has been borderline shithouse, you'd still back him in to dominate Spencer in the ruck. Maybe this is the time to get his mojo back?

I feel that a week off will rejuvenate Broadbent, and that the club planned to rest him during the SANFL bye week. Hell knows, we need him firing.


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I like the selection of Clurey. Obviously a replacement for Trengove, but with Hogan and Pedersen the only true "talls" in the MFC forward line, I would expect Bob to have first crack at Hogan, Hombsch to Pedersen and Clurey to Watts. I wouldn't be suprised however, to see Clurey push up the ground a lot of the day to provide extra numbers around the stoppage as the "blocker". As I mentioned in my review, we have been very poor with our disposal efficiency from stoppages, as the likes of Boak, Gray and Ebert simply are not allowed free run at it. This will be a ploy that Melbourne will target this weekend and we simply have to have measures in place to counteract it.

As weird as this sounds, Ryder out is a blessing. We inject a utility in Stewart into the side who is an extra midfield rotation, which will hopefully alleviate the stress on our core midfielders, and our ailing fitness. It will hopefully see Westhoff return to normal, and Lobbe will hopefully return to form, knowing he is rucking all but 5% of the match.

Need quality ball users to get the footy inside 50 quick. Pittard, Broadbent, Amon all must fire. We simply must lift disposal efficiency going inside 50, as we are likely to encounter a sometimes 15-20 man forward line. Hawthorn are so good at hitting up short passes until a defensive error is made and a forward target opens up. An area we were pathetic in on Sunday night against the Tigers. God forbid I hope it improves on Saturday.

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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri May 29, 2015 9:39 am

I'd like to see Clurey tag Vince.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Fri May 29, 2015 9:49 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:I'd like to see Clurey tag Vince.


Nice one!

I'd like to see Clurey, Wines and Hartlett all get eyeballed by Kenny before the first bounce and start the three of them in the centre square for the first contest.

We need to make a statement this weekend, I can't believe it is season on the line stuff just yet, but it is close. Simply is a must win this weekend and I'll be looking to our leaders to stand up.

Boak, Lobbe and Wines all need big games.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Dogwatcher » Fri May 29, 2015 9:56 am

What's your reading on Ryder?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Fri May 29, 2015 10:19 am

He's been better value in the ruck than he has in the forward half to date IMO. Lobbe is our lead ruckman and is a vital part of our side, but each time we have needed a lift or a spark the leaping Ryder has offered something completely different to the more traditional ruck style of Lobbe. This though offers a problem. Drop Lobbe and go with one ruck again and Westhoff / Trengove (when fit) need to chop out for Ryder and we have the same balance we had last year. Keep Lobbe and Ryder and Ryder ends up spending large portions of the game deep forward where he can have less to do and less time to influence the game. Quite a bit of Ryder's fortunes rest with Lobbe, IMO. Lobbe needs to offer more around the ground and especially forward when resting. This would give Ryder more time in the middle.

( Lobbe worries me a little, the "true" ruckman like Jacobs, Goldstein, Jamar have given him hell over time and he struggles against the genuine ruckmen and needs to offer more around the ground, but I digress )

Most players take time to settle into a new environment and clearly Ryder is still doing that. All the preseason hype about him being the "missing link" to our premiership success was tripe, whilst his acquisition has been valuable (I think any club would have wanted him once he decided to leave Essendon) it has also come at a cost. Westhoff appears truly lost at the moment, his role has clearly changed and I'm not sure he's adapting to it all that well. Couple that with Ryder finding his feet and we have two key forwards out of sorts as evidenced by our structure forward of the ball breaking down in the last few weeks. This in turn heaps pressure on the midfield and ergo the defence as any midfield with enough ball will create scoring opportunities. ( See I50's we surrendered against Adelaide and Hawthorn ).

Back to Ryder, I think he's going to take some time to truly settle into our club. He's moved his family to a new state, he's settling into a new club and structure while carrying a fair amount of expectation. Hey, that's what he's paid for but like the rest of us he's human and I think it might not be until late this year or early next that we start to see his true worth.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri May 29, 2015 11:18 am

Booney wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I'd like to see Clurey tag Vince.


Nice one!

I'd like to see Clurey, Wines and Hartlett all get eyeballed by Kenny before the first bounce and start the three of them in the centre square for the first contest.

We need to make a statement this weekend, I can't believe it is season on the line stuff just yet, but it is close. Simply is a must win this weekend and I'll be looking to our leaders to stand up.

Boak, Lobbe and Wines all need big games.


Obviously Vince is going to put a hard tag on either Gray or wines, if Port can waste Clurey on just doing a reverse tag on Vince the Dee's will waste a good player trying to find a plan B, it's a real dangerous game for Port, Melbourne have came in from $3.80 to $2.95 in no time.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Fri May 29, 2015 11:19 am

Vince will go to Boak.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby JK » Fri May 29, 2015 11:25 am

Booney wrote:Vince will go to Boak.


Boak would be too quick wouldn't he?

Thought Gray might have been the matchup, but not sure Vince could go with him when he rolls forward. (To be fair to Bernie there's not many that can go with RG)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Fri May 29, 2015 11:27 am

Vince went with Dangerfield, who is quicker, Dangerfield or Boak?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri May 29, 2015 11:28 am

Booney wrote:
Back to Ryder, I think he's going to take some time to truly settle into our club. He's moved his family to a new state, he's settling into a new club and structure while carrying a fair amount of expectation. Hey, that's what he's paid for but like the rest of us he's human and I think it might not be until late this year or early next that we start to see his true worth.


I think he's had too long of a free reign at the Bombers where discipline isn't high on their agenda, I expected more out of him when he crossed over, he oozes talent but is too lazy.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby carey » Fri May 29, 2015 11:28 am

Booney wrote:Vince went with Dangerfield, who is quicker, Dangerfield or Boak?



Danger easierly. Boak just a much better player! ;)
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby JK » Fri May 29, 2015 11:29 am

Booney wrote:Vince went with Dangerfield, who is quicker, Dangerfield or Boak?


Quicker running, or quicker to throw themself on the ground?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri May 29, 2015 11:30 am

Booney wrote:Vince will go to Boak.


I think they'd be wasting their time tagging Boak, he's too smart and too strong for Vince and his niggling antics wouldn't faze him the slightest.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby carey » Fri May 29, 2015 11:32 am

JK wrote:
Booney wrote:Vince went with Dangerfield, who is quicker, Dangerfield or Boak?


Quicker running, or quicker to throw themself on the ground?



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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri May 29, 2015 11:38 am

JK wrote:
Booney wrote:Vince went with Dangerfield, who is quicker, Dangerfield or Boak?


Quicker running, or quicker to throw themself on the ground?

Or quicker to sign on at Geelong?
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby JK » Fri May 29, 2015 11:45 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
JK wrote:
Booney wrote:Vince went with Dangerfield, who is quicker, Dangerfield or Boak?


Quicker running, or quicker to throw themself on the ground?

Or quicker to sign on at Geelong?


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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Booney » Fri May 29, 2015 11:47 am

carey wrote:
Booney wrote:Vince went with Dangerfield, who is quicker, Dangerfield or Boak?



Danger easierly. Boak just a much better player! ;)


Boak is working on handballing out over his head to nobody. He'll get there.
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Re: Port Adelaide 2015

Postby Dogwatcher » Fri May 29, 2015 12:49 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
Back to Ryder, I think he's going to take some time to truly settle into our club. He's moved his family to a new state, he's settling into a new club and structure while carrying a fair amount of expectation. Hey, that's what he's paid for but like the rest of us he's human and I think it might not be until late this year or early next that we start to see his true worth.


I think he's had too long of a free reign at the Bombers where discipline ins't high on their agenda, I expected more out of him when he crossed over, he's oozes talent but is too lazy.


That's the impression I get. But I haven't watched as much as Booney, so I'll bow to his knowledge a little on this one.
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