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Re: Port ask for some cash...

Postby Hondo » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:22 pm

McAlmanac wrote:Of course, the SANFL is concerned with maintaining its own castle. Unfortunately, in this era of delocalised sporting franchises, major sporting venues in the burbs is anachronistic. With the exception of Stadium Australia (and doesn't that look great when it's empty), all capital city AFL venues are in the city or city fringe. Why would Stan from the north eastern suburbs (if he followed Port) want to schlep out to West Lakes on a cold Friday or Saturday night?

AAMI Stadium is important - to the self-interested SANFL more than the general public. Who can deny that Friday night AFL footy at Adelaide Oval would be sensational?


That's all fine, in a theoretical perfect world. I'd love a Ferrari too.

The money the "self interested" SANFL generates from AAMI Stadium is far more important than those dreams, in the near future. The profit from just one AFL game (as I have heard) is around $400K which = the annual distribution to each SANFL club. If you argue against AAMI you argue for less money for the SANFL, try justifying that to SANFL supporters whose clubs receive less distributions.

IMO people who support footy in this state shouldn't be promoting ideas that take money away from the SANFL :shock: That's a lesson I take from this Port Power issue. The SACA don't need our football money, no matter how "sensational" (arguable) games there might be.

FWIW, the fact that you put "city fringe" in your location argument is its flaw. I have been to both the SCG and Subiaco and IMO neither are located any more ideally than AAMI Stadium (Subiaco especially - 40 minute walk to CBD, 2 hour gridlock after games). At the very least, neither are located within the CBD. As for Stadium Australia, well you said it yourself ..

Adelaide is 1/3 the population of Melbourne so the state will go broke if it tries to replicate all Melbourne's sporting infrastructure, as great as it is.

It's all a moot point, because a CBD statium won't happen in the next 10 years anyway, probably not in the next 10 either.

PS: Adelaide Oval is just as cold as West Lakes on a cold Friday night for poor old Stan and his 40 minute drive! It doesn't have a roof either.
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Re: Port ask for some cash...

Postby stan » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:26 pm

hondo71 wrote:
McAlmanac wrote:Of course, the SANFL is concerned with maintaining its own castle. Unfortunately, in this era of delocalised sporting franchises, major sporting venues in the burbs is anachronistic. With the exception of Stadium Australia (and doesn't that look great when it's empty), all capital city AFL venues are in the city or city fringe. Why would Stan from the north eastern suburbs (if he followed Port) want to schlep out to West Lakes on a cold Friday or Saturday night?

AAMI Stadium is important - to the self-interested SANFL more than the general public. Who can deny that Friday night AFL footy at Adelaide Oval would be sensational?


That's all fine, in a theoretical perfect world.

The money the "self interested" SANFL generates from AAMI Stadium is far more important, in the near future. The profit from just one AFL game (as I have heard) is around $400K which = the annual distribution to each SANFL club.

IMO people who support footy in this state shouldn't be promoting ideas that take money away from the SANFL :shock: That's a lesson I take from this Port Power issue. The SACA don't need our football money, no matter how "sensational" (arguable) games there might be.

FWIW, the fact that you put "city fringe" in your location argument is its flaw. I have been to both the SCG and Subiaco and IMO neither are located any more ideally than AAMI Stadium (Subiaco especially - 40 minute walk to CBD, 2 hour gridlock after games). At the very least, neither are located within the CBD. As for Stadium Australia, well you said it yourself ..

If you argue against AAMI you argue for less money for the SANFL, try justifying that to SANFL supporters whose clubs receive less distributions.

It's all a moot point, because a CBD statium won't happen in the next 10 years anyway, probably ever.
Adelaide is 1/3 the population of Melbourne so the state will go broke if it tries to replicate all Melbourne's sporting infrastructure, as great as it is.

PS: Adelaide Oval is just as cold as West Lakes on a cold Friday night for poor old Stan and his 40 minute drive! It doesn't have a roof either.


Bloody Stan, oh wait a sec......
You make some good points Hondo. I love the one about a stadium in the city, bah we can even build a granstand at Vic park and people want to try building and entire football stadium. Good luck with that. Hopefully Port can dig themselves out of this hole, but it will require some positive discussions with the SANFL. Also when they start winning games the crowds will start coming back.
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Re: Port ask for some cash...

Postby oldfella » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:36 pm

McAlmanac wrote:
Of course, the SANFL is concerned with maintaining its own castle. Unfortunately, in this era of delocalised sporting franchises, major sporting venues in the burbs is anachronistic. With the exception of Stadium Australia (and doesn't that look great when it's empty), all capital city AFL venues are in the city or city fringe. Why would Stan from the north eastern suburbs (if he followed Port) want to schlep out to West Lakes on a cold Friday or Saturday night?

AAMI Stadium is important - to the self-interested SANFL more than the general public. Who can deny that Friday night AFL footy at Adelaide Oval would be sensational?

Mate, the day that the Cricket mob at Adelaide oval allow triple deck stands right around the ground -- do not insist on maintaining their nice view of the Adelaide Hills from the Members -- agree to joint tenancy where thier members sit in members for cricket matches only and football members sit in members during football matches I will agree to demolishing Football Park and putting in housing.

However, the above was why Foot Park was built and the day I mentioned above is not here yet.
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Re: Port ask for some cash...

Postby Dutchy » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:32 pm

This all smells of the admin at Alberton thinking cashflow would be a given after the 2004 flag, not sure they put the steps in place to ensure long term off field success - instead they just let it happen - now most of them have left and the club is stuck with debt, shrinking supporter base and a long way off being an on field power again
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Re: Port ask for some cash...

Postby Big Kev of SA » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:37 pm

Port ask for some cash...
This all smells of the admin at Alberton thinking cashflow would be a given after the 2004 flag, not sure they put the steps in place to ensure long term off field success - instead they just let it happen - now most of them have left and the club is stuck with debt, shrinking supporter base and a long way off being an on field power again

Dutchy , agreed port have cash problem - no brainer , shrinking support - maybe , but to say long way of being on field performers again - quite naive really. you'll see !
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Re: Port ask for some cash...

Postby stan » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:44 am

If you look at the way things are looking at the moment, the SANFL are doing all they can to get what they really want. Well done.
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Re: Port ask for some cash...

Postby Dutchy » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:58 am

Big Kev of SA wrote:Dutchy , agreed port have cash problem - no brainer , shrinking support - maybe , but to say long way of being on field performers again - quite naive really. you'll see !


Naive?

Where did they finish last year?
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Re: Port ask for some cash...

Postby Macca19 » Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:09 pm

That was last year.

This is this year. Dont live in the past.
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Re: Port ask for some cash...

Postby Dog_ger » Tue May 05, 2009 5:25 pm

Reports suggest the $1.5M cheque is in the post.

Hooray.

Give em what they need. :lol:

With a heaps better Stadium deal to be announced. :lol:
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It's only Money $$$ :)

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Re: Port ask for some cash...

Postby Tassie Blues » Tue May 05, 2009 11:33 pm

maybe with that kind of money they can buy themselves a decent crowd at there home games for the rest of the year.
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Re: Port ask for some cash...

Postby Booney » Wed May 06, 2009 10:25 am

LOL, if you look at %ages I think you will find Adelaide's crowds are down a similar figure. The regular 45k mark Adelaide once achieved is no longer the case.

Anyway, Crow fans without tickets had a chance to come last Saturday night, didnt hear many there. :lol:
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Re: Port ask for some cash...

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Fri May 08, 2009 1:19 pm

all power fans should donate there stimulus money to stimulate the powers economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Port ask for some cash...

Postby am Bays » Fri May 08, 2009 2:24 pm

And a big well done to the Port Power Footy club for finally pulling* a crowd in 2009 larger than what the Central Districts and Glenelg Footy Cubs can at Footy Park...

Pity they had to play the most popular Footy club in the state to do it*.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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