Ben Cousins

[McAlmanac]

Someone made the comment to me recently about a former Glenelg player, who was skinny as a rake, yet 12 months at Carlton, was vastly more "built"...

Not many players have gone from Glenelg to Carlton....

[hereforthebeer]

Someone made the comment to me recently about a former Glenelg player, who was skinny as a rake, yet 12 months at Carlton, was vastly more "built"...

Not many players have gone from Glenelg to Carlton....

take a look at any players who go from sanfl wafl vfl etc to afl they all bulk up what are you trying to say

[Punk Rooster]

Someone made the comment to me recently about a former Glenelg player, who was skinny as a rake, yet 12 months at Carlton, was vastly more "built"...

Not many players have gone from Glenelg to Carlton....

even less have captained Carlton...

[Dirko]

What Macca ?

[Punk Rooster]

What Macca ?

do you live out in the "Sticks" or something?

[hereforthebeer]

Someone made the comment to me recently about a former Glenelg player, who was skinny as a rake, yet 12 months at Carlton, was vastly more "built"...

Not many players have gone from Glenelg to Carlton....

even less have captained Carlton...

no doubt who you are talking about, but what is your point, cos if your are implying what i think you are implying, you are talking about one of the all time legends of SA, Carlton and to a lesser degree the bays so before you go making ridiculous comments you would want to have some serious clear cut facts to back them up, not just a passing comment by someone

[Dirko]

no doubt who you are talking about, but what is your point, cos if your are implying what i think you are implying, you are talking about one of the all time legends of SA, Carlton and to a lesser degree the bays so before you go making ridiculous comments you would want to have some serious clear cut facts to back them up, not just a passing comment by someone

Amen....

[the big bang]

geez.....imagine if a kid went from playing semi-pro football to a full on professional environment right on the verge of adolescence, with all the gym resources, dieticians and a full on training scheduale put on some muscle mass as soon as he hit the gym?

wouldnt that be amazing?

[Psyber]

As I've said before, the high incidence of advanced male pattern baldness in guys in their 20's, who muscle up fast and heal rapidly in AFL teams, suggests wide-spread use of anabolic steroids to me.
I'll concede it is not proof, but it needs to be looked at.

[stan]

geez.....imagine if a kid went from playing semi-pro football to a full on professional environment right on the verge of adolescence, with all the gym resources, dieticians and a full on training scheduale put on some muscle mass as soon as he hit the gym?

wouldnt that be amazing?

Yes Amazing! ;)

[Dirko]

As I've said before, the high incidence of advanced male pattern baldness in guys in their 20's, who muscle up fast and heal rapidly in AFL teams, suggests wide-spread use of anabolic steroids to me.
I'll concede it is not proof, but it needs to be looked at.

Well that counts out Sticks

[Psyber]

As I've said before, the high incidence of advanced male pattern baldness in guys in their 20's, who muscle up fast and heal rapidly in AFL teams, suggests wide-spread use of anabolic steroids to me. I'll concede it is not proof, but it needs to be looked at.

Well that counts out Sticks

True, he kept his hair. I think it is a much more recent trend.

[rod_rooster]

As I've said before, the high incidence of advanced male pattern baldness in guys in their 20's, who muscle up fast and heal rapidly in AFL teams, suggests wide-spread use of anabolic steroids to me. I'll concede it is not proof, but it needs to be looked at.

Well that counts out Sticks

True, he kept his hair. I think it is a much more recent trend.

I'm not doubting what you are saying Psyber as i haven't looked at it as closely as you appear to have but is there really a pattern of baldness amongst AFL players more so than the general community? I have several friends who started to and did go bald in their early 20's (a couple even in their late teens) and none of them have ever been on roids. Who are the players you've noticed with receding hairlines? I can think of Brent Guerra but you wouldn't say he is a likely candidate for being on the juice.

[Dirko]

Who are the players you've noticed with receding hairlines? I can think of Brent Guerra but you wouldn't say he is a likely candidate for being on the juice.

Probably one C Judd & G Ablett jnr come to mind in regard to having no hair (or receding). But I dare say they'd be among the two most tested blokes around, but with so much talent they wouldn't even think about getting on the juice.

Fraser Gehrig would be one person I'd be suss of. Can't think of too many other TBH. And hasn't Guerra done the Advanced Hair yeah yeah thing ?

[am Bays]

As I've said before, the high incidence of advanced male pattern baldness in guys in their 20's, who muscle up fast and heal rapidly in AFL teams, suggests wide-spread use of anabolic steroids to me. I'll concede it is not proof, but it needs to be looked at.

Well that counts out Sticks

True, he kept his hair. I think it is a much more recent trend.

is that why Punky shaves his head???

Hello, MFS, can I please have two fire fighting appliances stationed outside my house...

Thanks very much, Ta...

[rod_rooster]

Who are the players you've noticed with receding hairlines? I can think of Brent Guerra but you wouldn't say he is a likely candidate for being on the juice.

Probably one C Judd & G Ablett jnr come to mind in regard to having no hair (or receding). But I dare say they'd be among the two most tested blokes around, but with so much talent they wouldn't even think about getting on the juice.

Fraser Gehrig would be one person I'd be suss of. Can't think of too many other TBH. And hasn't Guerra done the Advanced Hair yeah yeah thing ?

True, Judd, Ablett and Gehrig all fit the category. Even N. Ablett is probably thinning but look at the father and it's hardly a surprise. Bartlett also had the same issue but you'd hardly suggest he was pumping himself full of roids. I honestly don't see a pattern of baldness amongst AFL footballers that is any different to the rest of society. People go bald, it's a natural thing.

PS- Yes Guerra did do the Advanced Hair, Yeah Yeah thing

[Psyber]

.. True, Judd, Ablett and Gehrig all fit the category. Even N. Ablett is probably thinning but look at the father and it's hardly a surprise. Bartlett also had the same issue but you'd hardly suggest he was pumping himself full of roids. I honestly don't see a pattern of baldness amongst AFL footballers that is any different to the rest of society. People go bald, it's a natural thing.

PS- Yes Guerra did do the Advanced Hair, Yeah Yeah thing

Interesting responses guys. Perhaps it is a genotype and sampling thing rather than the steroids.
Hardly anybody I went to Uni with had thinning hair even well onto their 30s - maybe 4 or 5 of the 100 in my graduating year.
And at my graduating years 40 year reunion earlier this year only about 6 the the 50 or so guys in their 60s who turned up didn't have a full head of hair, only the colour had changed in most.

I agree about the Abletts - it looks like that is a family pattern.

[hereforthebeer]

.. True, Judd, Ablett and Gehrig all fit the category. Even N. Ablett is probably thinning but look at the father and it's hardly a surprise. Bartlett also had the same issue but you'd hardly suggest he was pumping himself full of roids. I honestly don't see a pattern of baldness amongst AFL footballers that is any different to the rest of society. People go bald, it's a natural thing.

PS- Yes Guerra did do the Advanced Hair, Yeah Yeah thing

Interesting responses guys. Perhaps it is a genotype and sampling thing rather than the steroids.
Hardly anybody I went to Uni with had thinning hair even well onto their 30s - maybe 4 or 5 of the 100 in my graduating year.
And at my graduating years 40 year reunion earlier this year only about 6 the the 50 or so guys in their 60s who turned up didn't have a full head of hair, only the colour had changed in most.

I agree about the Abletts - it looks like that is a family pattern.

Women don't have the monopoly on body image issues. Blokes get just as hung up about their looks. In the first part of a series on male paranoia, health writer Dan Rookwood looks at what factors affect hair loss and what can be done to limit them.

Will you go bald?
Baldness currently affects up to 30 percent of men by the age of 30 and more than 50 percent by 50, according to researchers at Palacky University in the Czech Republic. One large-scale study in Victoria showed that baldness affects 73.5 percent of men over the age of 80. So the answer to the question is most probably yes. Eventually.

Does baldness run in your family?
You can normally blame your heirs for any missing hairs. Geneticists used to think that male pattern baldness (the most common form of hair loss in men) was passed down from the mother's side of the family. But the experts at the Institute of Trichologists now think that the father's genetics are equally responsible. So if granddad was a baldie, it might not just be his carriage clock you stand to inherit.

from reading this article it would suggest that approx 30% of the players in the afl which mean there could be 201 out of a possible 672 players in the afl showing some signs of hair loss

[westozfalcon]

As I've said before, the high incidence of advanced male pattern baldness in guys in their 20's, who muscle up fast and heal rapidly in AFL teams, suggests wide-spread use of anabolic steroids to me.
I'll concede it is not proof, but it needs to be looked at.

Maybe Robert Harvey could chair a study into that?

[Dirko]

It's OVER !! The Saints have told him no go...so seeya Ben Cousins.....