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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby LMA » Thu May 31, 2018 9:52 pm

Dutchy wrote:Umpires impact on the outcome of a game of footy is so over rated


Tend to agree with that. Considering there a 200+ games a season the percentage of games decided by umpiring is miniscule.
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby heater31 » Thu May 31, 2018 10:46 pm

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Spargo wrote:Free kick no’s aren’t nearly as relevant as where you actually get them and when you get them. There’s also other variables which free kick no’s don’t reflect, ie advantage rule payed resulting in goals then a different umpire doesn’t pay it down the other end, costing the other team goals...

It’s amazing when you are first to the pill, and tackle correctly the frees tend to go your way. I’d prefer to see the stats around that.
Thats why a free kick count stat on its own shits me. To give it context you need first to the ball stats and ineffective tackles.
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby Booney » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:20 am

Dutchy wrote:Umpires impact on the outcome of a game of footy is so over rated


I don't think they influence the outcome but they can certainly influence the momentum of the game.
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby Dutchy » Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:41 am

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Umpires impact on the outcome of a game of footy is so over rated


I don't think they influence the outcome but they can certainly influence the momentum of the game.


Certainly no more than mistakes players and coaches make.
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:08 am

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Umpires impact on the outcome of a game of footy is so over rated


I don't think they influence the outcome but they can certainly influence the momentum of the game.


Only the West Coast vs Sydney season opener I have thought that they killed the Eagles' chances, apart from that they've been generally consistent I guess, even if I don't agree with the rules or decision.
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby Booney » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:11 am

Dutchy wrote:
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Dutchy wrote:Umpires impact on the outcome of a game of footy is so over rated


I don't think they influence the outcome but they can certainly influence the momentum of the game.


Certainly no more than mistakes players and coaches make.


For sure, but there's nothing worse than seeing a team with a run on get robbed of momentum by a poor decision.
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:49 am

I agree insofar as the actual decisions they make, but the way they are told to adjudicate can have a massive bearing on the game - not so much the result but the way the game is played
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:52 am

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For sure, but there's nothing worse than seeing a team with a run on get robbed of momentum by a poor decision.

That's what occurred in the match I was referring to, my opinion may differ to others though, I'm sure wubsy thought otherwise.
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby helicopterking » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:29 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
For sure, but there's nothing worse than seeing a team with a run on get robbed of momentum by a poor decision.

That's what occurred in the match I was referring to, my opinion may differ to others though, I'm sure wubsy thought otherwise.


I am positive that is what happened. :)
West Coast clawed their way back into it and looked set to over run Sydney and a few calls went against WC and it let Sydney gain control again.
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:39 pm

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I am positive that is what happened. :)
West Coast clawed their way back into it and looked set to over run Sydney and a few calls went against WC and it let Sydney gain control again.

Yep, every time they got within a sniff there was a stupid call that turned into a two goal play, they had all of the momentum.
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby carey » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:44 pm

You simply can’t 100% blame an umpire whilst the rules are open to interpretation.
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:05 pm

carey wrote:You simply can’t 100% blame an umpire whilst the rules are open to interpretation.

Na, they shouldn't have let the Swans get away so far earlier, if you watch the last quarter and a bit there were some baffling plain wrong decisions.

If I was smarter and more tech savvy I'd post a compilation, and then some highlights of the decisions made.
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:26 pm

We should beat the saints this week??????

But after that game we have a very tough run home....
Eagles (SCG)
Tigers (ES)
Cats (SCG)
North (ES)
Suns (SCG)
Bombers (ES)
Pies (SCG)
Dees (MCG)
Giants (Spotless)
Hawks (SCG)

So with the exception of the Suns, the rest are pretty tough... Should be interesting to see how we end up...
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:31 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:We should beat the saints this week??????

But after that game we have a very tough run home....
Eagles (SCG)
Tigers (ES)
Cats (SCG)
North (ES)
Suns (SCG)
Bombers (ES)
Pies (SCG)
Dees (MCG)
Giants (Spotless)
Hawks (SCG)

So with the exception of the Suns, the rest are pretty tough... Should be interesting to see how we end up...


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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:36 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
woodublieve12 wrote:We should beat the saints this week??????

But after that game we have a very tough run home....
Eagles (SCG)
Tigers (ES)
Cats (SCG)
North (ES)
Suns (SCG)
Bombers (ES)
Pies (SCG)
Dees (MCG)
Giants (Spotless)
Hawks (SCG)

So with the exception of the Suns, the rest are pretty tough... Should be interesting to see how we end up...


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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:38 pm

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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:42 pm

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If someone gave me $50 to place on who I think will win the GF I'd place it on Sydney for some strange reason, just seem to bopping along dropping the occasional game they shouldn't, they'll be primed for the pointy end no doubt along with wealth of finals experience.
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby bennymacca » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:45 pm

they get games into their kids, which is excellent coaching. may mean they are only 85% for most of the season but it also means they are primed at the pointy end, as LM has said
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby Bum Crack » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:51 pm

bennymacca wrote:they get games into their kids, which is excellent coaching. may mean they are only 85% for most of the season but it also means they are primed at the pointy end, as LM has said

Bit like Geelong I reckon. They'll be up there too
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Re: 2018 AFL Season

Postby bennymacca » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:06 pm

Geelong's key forwards and backs aren't as good as Sydney's and for that reason I have them a level below.
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