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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:41 am

Dutchy wrote:It will be a reverse Gibbs, after landing him they are going to struggle to not allow Sloane to return to Melb,


Yep, can't bring someone home to be close to family and then not allow someone to go home for the same reason.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby mighty hounds » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:42 am

Dutchy wrote:It will be a reverse Gibbs, after landing him they are going to struggle to not allow Sloane to return to Melb,


There’s a difference. Gibbs was under contract Sloane won’t be?
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby mighty hounds » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:43 am

Jim05 wrote:
Booney wrote:
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Booney wrote:Essendon the pick of those 3, easily.

Carlton set to start another rebuild after next year and St Kilda have got no heart.

Apparently at our Presidents function on the weekend our CEO said that Carlton and the Saints are offering more than what we can dream of but we will have room in our cap to make a decent offer and we are in regular contact with his manager.He added it’s up to us to make the club as attractive as possible and getting into a position of challenging for a flag.
Lastly he also mentioned that Wines was a big priority but his manager has indicated he is set to re-sign at Port in the coming weeks so it has forced us to look elsewhere.


Wines isn't going anywhere, correct.

Sloane must be a high priority for anyone with the cash in Melbourne.

I think a lot hinges on the Lynch situation as several of the Melbourne clubs have him as the number 1 priority.


So basically one will stay and we will lose one. **** sake :lol:
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:44 am

mighty hounds wrote:
Dutchy wrote:It will be a reverse Gibbs, after landing him they are going to struggle to not allow Sloane to return to Melb,


There’s a difference. Gibbs was under contract Sloane won’t be?


Restricted free agent out of contract. Adelaide get the right of reply to any deal tabled.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:45 am

mighty hounds wrote:
So basically one will stay and we will lose one. **** sake :lol:


Gold Coasts Lynch, not Adelaide's.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby Dutchy » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:55 am

Adelaide's Tom Lynch is out of contract also yes?
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby mighty hounds » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:57 am

Booney wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:
Dutchy wrote:It will be a reverse Gibbs, after landing him they are going to struggle to not allow Sloane to return to Melb,


There’s a difference. Gibbs was under contract Sloane won’t be?


Restricted free agent out of contract. Adelaide get the right of reply to any deal tabled.


Yes I know. Won’t it be like dangerfield where they’ll have to work a trade out?
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:58 am

Dutchy wrote:Adelaide's Tom Lynch is out of contract also yes?


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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:02 am

mighty hounds wrote:
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mighty hounds wrote:
Dutchy wrote:It will be a reverse Gibbs, after landing him they are going to struggle to not allow Sloane to return to Melb,


There’s a difference. Gibbs was under contract Sloane won’t be?


Restricted free agent out of contract. Adelaide get the right of reply to any deal tabled.


Yes I know. Won’t it be like dangerfield where they’ll have to work a trade out?


If someone offers Sloane a deal and Adelaide match it then he must stay with Adelaide.

Geelong didn't table an offer to Dangerfield, they went to the trade period hopeful of securing him through a trade as he had made it clear his intentions were to return home.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby MW » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:20 am

I think if any deal is offered to Sloane because he WANTS to go, then we won't match but trade like Danger.
I think if any deal is offered to Sloane but he is happy to stay, we will match, within reason.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby Dutchy » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:27 am

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Adelaide's Tom Lynch is out of contract also yes?


Correct.


I guess the question is why do the Crows let so many of their players get into their last year of contract before extending?
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby MW » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:31 am

I think you'll find it's not the clubs choosing rather than the play and their managers choosing
free agency has changed that
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby Dutchy » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:35 am

MW wrote:I think you'll find it's not the clubs choosing rather than the play and their managers choosing
free agency has changed that


Maybe, but also makes me think if they prefer to keep the players hanging to get best performance from them? Seem to have more than other clubs.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:36 am

MW wrote:I think you'll find it's not the clubs choosing rather than the play and their managers choosing
free agency has changed that


Mount a compelling case to stay.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:37 am

Dutchy wrote:
MW wrote:I think you'll find it's not the clubs choosing rather than the play and their managers choosing
free agency has changed that


Maybe, but also makes me think if they prefer to keep the players hanging to get best performance from them? Seem to have more than other clubs.


Some might look at it the opposite, if you want me why haven't you made it impossible for me to leave?
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby MW » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:44 am

Dutchy wrote:
MW wrote:I think you'll find it's not the clubs choosing rather than the play and their managers choosing
free agency has changed that


Maybe, but also makes me think if they prefer to keep the players hanging to get best performance from them? Seem to have more than other clubs.


Certainly the high profile ones have created this for sure. not sure on where we sit overall with free agents in their last year.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby JK » Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:58 am

MW wrote:I think if any deal is offered to Sloane because he WANTS to go, then we won't match but trade like Danger.
I think if any deal is offered to Sloane but he is happy to stay, we will match, within reason.


This seems to be the vague area the Crows struggle with. Makes you wonder why they don't revisit their wage/contract policy(s) as it would seem they might be paying overs to fringe players. If say Sloane get's offered $1mil per season, but the Crows are only prepared to go to $800k (scenario similar to past situations), is it because they're paying a David Mackay type $150k too much per season?

Greater minds than mine are responsible for it, so Im sure they have their reasons.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby hawks21 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:43 pm

JK wrote:
MW wrote:I think if any deal is offered to Sloane because he WANTS to go, then we won't match but trade like Danger.
I think if any deal is offered to Sloane but he is happy to stay, we will match, within reason.


This seems to be the vague area the Crows struggle with. Makes you wonder why they don't revisit their wage/contract policy(s) as it would seem they might be paying overs to fringe players. If say Sloane get's offered $1mil per season, but the Crows are only prepared to go to $800k (scenario similar to past situations), is it because they're paying a David Mackay type $150k too much per season?

Greater minds than mine are responsible for it, so Im sure they have their reasons.

Adelaide’s strategy seems to be that the salary cap is spread across the playing group rather than spent on 2 mega stars for example.

It’s about having the standard of the 15th to 25th player on the list above average (at arguably 400k) rather than having 2 stars at 1mil and your depth below average as you can only afford 200k per year.

Which however does leave the door open for poachers offering over market value.
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby Wedgie » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:49 pm

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If someone offers Sloane a deal and Adelaide match it then he must stay with Adelaide.

Geelong didn't table an offer to Dangerfield, they went to the trade period hopeful of securing him through a trade as he had made it clear his intentions were to return home.

I'm sure there will be another Dean Gore that takes Adelaide's fancy. ;)

PS Did have a giggle at this article from 2015:
"SANFL high performance manager Brenton Phillips says Adelaide has cleverly found its Patrick Dangerfield replacement in Dean Gore. Phllips has described Sturt product Gore — the deal maker in the Dangerfield trade to Geelong — as a mini version of Dangerfield"
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
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Re: Adelaide Crows 2018

Postby MW » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:58 pm

Unfortunately Dangers son is a more effective mini version of Danger than Gore ever was...
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