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Re: Crows 2016

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:52 am

I reckon both he and B Crouch will stay. But they will eat up the cash that we may have thrown at Lachie Neale
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Re: Crows 2016

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:56 am

You'd surely have plenty in the kitty left over from the Dangerfield departure. The Neale thing wouldn't be an issue just need to have some firepower on the trade table.
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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Spargo » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:57 am

Booney wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:What can you do though? If he goes because other clubs throw the kitchen sink at him well sorry folks and all the best Josh. He's 28 years old and as we all know most big blokes start going backwards as they approach 30 years of age. He's not like he can go up the ground and we have seen what happens at Port and blokes like Cloke when you sign them up for longer than you should.

In saying that I think he will stay, just don't get bent over in the process.


What's happening at Port, mate?

Please direct all non-crow talk to the appropriate threads.

Thanks.
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Re: Crows 2016

Postby stan » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:57 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:You'd surely have plenty in the kitty left over from the Dangerfield departure. The Neale thing wouldn't be an issue just need to have some firepower on the trade table.

Isnt Neale a restricted free agent?
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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:59 am

Rik E Boy wrote:This could be a feisty thread in a few weeks.

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Re: Crows 2016

Postby MW » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:04 am

Spargo wrote:
Booney wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:What can you do though? If he goes because other clubs throw the kitchen sink at him well sorry folks and all the best Josh. He's 28 years old and as we all know most big blokes start going backwards as they approach 30 years of age. He's not like he can go up the ground and we have seen what happens at Port and blokes like Cloke when you sign them up for longer than you should.

In saying that I think he will stay, just don't get bent over in the process.


What's happening at Port, mate?

Please direct all non-crow talk to the appropriate threads.

Thanks.


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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Jim05 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:05 am

stan wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:You'd surely have plenty in the kitty left over from the Dangerfield departure. The Neale thing wouldn't be an issue just need to have some firepower on the trade table.

Isnt Neale a restricted free agent?

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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Spargo » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:09 am

MW wrote:
Spargo wrote:
Booney wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:What can you do though? If he goes because other clubs throw the kitchen sink at him well sorry folks and all the best Josh. He's 28 years old and as we all know most big blokes start going backwards as they approach 30 years of age. He's not like he can go up the ground and we have seen what happens at Port and blokes like Cloke when you sign them up for longer than you should.

In saying that I think he will stay, just don't get bent over in the process.


What's happening at Port, mate?

Please direct all non-crow talk to the appropriate threads.

Thanks.


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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Booney » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:27 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:Lobbe was another example off the top of my head Boon. Unless you're a dead set superstar with plenty of years in the tank it's dangerous to sign up ok to good players on long term contracts. If something goes off then you're stuck with them.


The way of the future mate. Players, like Lobbe, who have shown the ability to hold down a spot ( don't judge him on this year alone ) will hit the mid-20's and be given deals to keep them tied up for 3 years at least. I reckon 2 year deals will soon be a thing of the past or for players over 27-28 only.

The discussion about Hartlett's deal is just ridiculous, he's had several average matches this year but I'm pretty certain lots of clubs would be happy to have him.
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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Brodlach » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:31 pm

bennymacca wrote:I reckon both he and B Crouch will stay. But they will eat up the cash that we may have thrown at Lachie Neale

Agree both will stay but if Thompson retired that would free some cash up too
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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Booney » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:37 pm

Brodlach wrote:
bennymacca wrote:I reckon both he and B Crouch will stay. But they will eat up the cash that we may have thrown at Lachie Neale

Agree both will stay but if Thompson retired that would free some cash up too


In the form he's in, will he?
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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:44 pm

Booney wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:Lobbe was another example off the top of my head Boon. Unless you're a dead set superstar with plenty of years in the tank it's dangerous to sign up ok to good players on long term contracts. If something goes off then you're stuck with them.


The way of the future mate. Players, like Lobbe, who have shown the ability to hold down a spot ( don't judge him on this year alone ) will hit the mid-20's and be given deals to keep them tied up for 3 years at least. I reckon 2 year deals will soon be a thing of the past or for players over 27-28 only.

The discussion about Hartlett's deal is just ridiculous, he's had several average matches this year but I'm pretty certain lots of clubs would be happy to have him.


More like don't judge him on 2014 alone.

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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Brodlach » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:57 pm

Booney wrote:
Brodlach wrote:
bennymacca wrote:I reckon both he and B Crouch will stay. But they will eat up the cash that we may have thrown at Lachie Neale

Agree both will stay but if Thompson retired that would free some cash up too


In the form he's in, will he?

Will be 34 at the start of next season, end comes quickly for some players (not saying he will him it happens to older players)
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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Grahaml » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:21 pm

Not sure Thompson would be taking up much cap space. He's a veteran so only part of what he's paid counts (unless that rule has changed). The cap space we kept for Dangerfield in case he stayed put could get eaten up by keeping some of these blokes but there should still be wriggle room to throwa decent offer at someone. Would love to make a play for Dustin Martin, reckon he could take us to the next level, but I think there's enough being shown by the younger guys to think we can manage with this group.
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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:29 pm

Brodlach wrote:Will be 34 at the start of next season, end comes quickly for some players (not saying he will him it happens to older players)

Although I fully rate his endeavour and attack on the ball, he frustrates me with the silly undisciplined crap he does right in front of the umpire, moreso after conceding a free, I think he needs to show better leadership qualities with the young lads coming through.
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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:31 pm

Grahaml wrote:Not sure Thompson would be taking up much cap space. He's a veteran so only part of what he's paid counts (unless that rule has changed). The cap space we kept for Dangerfield in case he stayed put could get eaten up by keeping some of these blokes but there should still be wriggle room to throwa decent offer at someone. Would love to make a play for Dustin Martin, reckon he could take us to the next level, but I think there's enough being shown by the younger guys to think we can manage with this group.

Dusty will be a tiger forever, need to make a hard push for Lachie Neale or Dyson Heppell.

I'm curious to see just how many suspended Bombers actually return to Windy Hill, I'd imagine a fair swag of them will leave.
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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Fluffbag » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:36 pm

heater31 wrote:
MW wrote:He's implying when you sign up people long term and they don't deliver...prob thinking Hartlett from earlier in the year.
IMO he will stay. That's the impression I got from his interview with purple at the airport. He said he wants to stay if the club wants him there and his missus is happy in Adelaide.



Reckon this is the deciding factor.......

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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Booney » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:47 pm

Fluffbag wrote:
heater31 wrote:
MW wrote:He's implying when you sign up people long term and they don't deliver...prob thinking Hartlett from earlier in the year.
IMO he will stay. That's the impression I got from his interview with purple at the airport. He said he wants to stay if the club wants him there and his missus is happy in Adelaide.



Reckon this is the deciding factor.......

As Rumpole says, you must always listen to "She Who Must Be Obeyed"


Then again, if Adelaide offer say $600-700k on a 3 year deal and Brisbane, or Fremantle, are closer to $750-800 and 4-5 years....

$1.8-2.1 or $3.75-4m? I know what Mrs Boon would say. :D
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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Mr Beefy » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:01 pm

Booney wrote:
Fluffbag wrote:
heater31 wrote:
MW wrote:He's implying when you sign up people long term and they don't deliver...prob thinking Hartlett from earlier in the year.
IMO he will stay. That's the impression I got from his interview with purple at the airport. He said he wants to stay if the club wants him there and his missus is happy in Adelaide.



Reckon this is the deciding factor.......

As Rumpole says, you must always listen to "She Who Must Be Obeyed"


Then again, if Adelaide offer say $600-700k on a 3 year deal and Brisbane, or Fremantle, are closer to $750-800 and 4-5 years....

$1.8-2.1 or $3.75-4m? I know what Mrs Boon would say. :D

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Re: Crows 2016

Postby Jim05 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:23 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Grahaml wrote:Not sure Thompson would be taking up much cap space. He's a veteran so only part of what he's paid counts (unless that rule has changed). The cap space we kept for Dangerfield in case he stayed put could get eaten up by keeping some of these blokes but there should still be wriggle room to throwa decent offer at someone. Would love to make a play for Dustin Martin, reckon he could take us to the next level, but I think there's enough being shown by the younger guys to think we can manage with this group.

Dusty will be a tiger forever, need to make a hard push for Lachie Neale or Dyson Heppell.

I'm curious to see just how many suspended Bombers actually return to Windy Hill, I'd imagine a fair swag of them will leave.

Fair swag?
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