Essendon 2013

[mighty_tiger_79]

the AFL is really not handling this situation at all well

that says a lot about Andy and his leadership or lack of!

It's not a financial based decision so Andy D has no idea!!!

yes my mistake

[tigerpie]

I'm a bit bemused by his admission also...at the very least he's bought the game into disrepute hasnt he?

Ah but he's a poster boy for the AFL so they wont do squat.

And how can it not be performance enhancing? Why take it if it isnt going to assist you?
Or is it a masking agent for something else more sinister?

[whufc]

I'm a bit bemused by his admission also...at the very least he's bought the game into disrepute hasnt he?

Ah but he's a poster boy for the AFL so they wont do squat.

And how can it not be performance enhancing? Why take it if it isnt going to assist you?
Or is it a masking agent for something else more sinister?

Just like the WWE it's all about entertainment value.

Why ban him straight away when u can have an extra X amount of viewers tonight watching to see what the reaction from this are, especially from the crowd and west coast players.

Anyone else think Neil Craig and Kurt Tippett would think their suspensions were a tad harsh now.

What's scary is surely if Jobe thought he would be suspended ASAP from his comments he wouldn't have said them, he must have had some assurance he could keep playing.

[Q.]

And how can it not be performance enhancing? Why take it if it isnt going to assist you?
Or is it a masking agent for something else more sinister?

Eh, I don't think they've provided any great advantage, they would have been using them to accelerate loss of body fat.

[Jim05]

The AFL set a precedent by allowing Alastair Lynch to play for years on a banned substance.
Also have not heard of Nathan Bock being penalised despite admitting to taking a banned substance.

[kickinit]

Expect a team penalty due to multiple players involved.

expect player suspension, ASADA will make the call on the suspension not the AFL. WADA have already said excuses mean nothing, you take the substance your responsible

WADA dont have a say in it because the AFL is not an international sport and therefore dont fall under their jurisdiction.
WADA can only suggest a penalty but it is ASADA who hands it out.
Any penalty dished out will be from ASADA

Did you read me quote? ASADA follow WADA, they set the code and the banned list. WADA will be the ones saying guilty/not guilty ASADA will hand out the suspension.

[kickinit]

And how can it not be performance enhancing? Why take it if it isnt going to assist you?
Or is it a masking agent for something else more sinister?

Eh, I don't think they've provided any great advantage, they would have been using them to accelerate loss of body fat.

didn't they actually stop testing due no evidence it actually helped?

[helicopterking]

The AFL set a precedent by allowing Alastair Lynch to play for years on a banned substance.
Also have not heard of Nathan Bock being penalised despite admitting to taking a banned substance.

AFL were quick to ban Ben Cousins, on a non performance enhancing drug.

[Jim05]

Expect a team penalty due to multiple players involved.

expect player suspension, ASADA will make the call on the suspension not the AFL. WADA have already said excuses mean nothing, you take the substance your responsible

WADA dont have a say in it because the AFL is not an international sport and therefore dont fall under their jurisdiction.
WADA can only suggest a penalty but it is ASADA who hands it out.
Any penalty dished out will be from ASADA

Did you read me quote? ASADA follow WADA, they set the code and the banned list. WADA will be the ones saying guilty/not guilty ASADA will hand out the suspension.

Sorry misinterpreted you.
Just sick of hearing that WADA will be the ones dishing out the penalties, the media keep banging on about it

[Jim05]

The AFL set a precedent by allowing Alastair Lynch to play for years on a banned substance.
Also have not heard of Nathan Bock being penalised despite admitting to taking a banned substance.

AFL were quick to ban Ben Cousins, on a non performance enhancing drug.

Cocaine is a far more serious crime as it is an ilicit drug.
AOD is perfectly legal and available over the counter

[kickinit]

the AFL is really not handling this situation at all well

that says a lot about Andy and his leadership or lack of!

It's not a financial based decision so Andy D has no idea!!!

isn't it? From what i've been hearing there is a lot of jocks being changed at AFL at the moment, with possible law suits to come in the future. And that's all due to not knowing the long term side effects of the substance.

[kickinit]

Sorry misinterpreted you.
Just sick of hearing that WADA will be the ones dishing out the penalties, the media keep banging on about it

No problems.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Anyone else think Neil Craig and Kurt Tippett would think their suspensions were a tad harsh now.

When did Neil Craig get suspended?

[whufc]

the AFL is really not handling this situation at all well

that says a lot about Andy and his leadership or lack of!

It's not a financial based decision so Andy D has no idea!!!

isn't it? From what i've been hearing there is a lot of jocks being changed at AFL at the moment, with possible law suits to come in the future. And that's all due to not knowing the long term side effects of the substance.

DOH!!!

[kickinit]

the AFL is really not handling this situation at all well

that says a lot about Andy and his leadership or lack of!

It's not a financial based decision so Andy D has no idea!!!

isn't it? From what i've been hearing there is a lot of jocks being changed at AFL at the moment, with possible law suits to come in the future. And that's all due to not knowing the long term side effects of the substance.

DOH!!!

really at the moment the AFL can't do anything until ASADA has finalised their investigation.

[whufc]

Surely common sense would say having a bloke admit to taking a banned substance is enough to warrant the AFL suspending the bloke until the ASADA findings are released.

Comical that a bloke like Tippett can be suspended for 12 weeks while a player who openly admits he took a banned substance is running around.

What reason will Watson get off this, as you said it's your body your system your responsible for what goes in it regardless

Also I think admitting to using a banned substance on a high rating tv show is probably enough to trot out the old 'bringing the game into disrepute' line

Is there anything the AFL does that you just don't follow and agree with

[helicopterking]

The AFL set a precedent by allowing Alastair Lynch to play for years on a banned substance.
Also have not heard of Nathan Bock being penalised despite admitting to taking a banned substance.

AFL were quick to ban Ben Cousins, on a non performance enhancing drug.

Cocaine is a far more serious crime as it is an ilicit drug.
AOD is perfectly legal and available over the counter

Both players have bought the game into disrepute. Why not the same penelty?

[whufc]

Gerard Wheatley, Dave Parkin, Tony Shaw, Dermott Brerton all agree that it is a joke that Watson will be playing tonight and that the AFL have really stuffed up by not coming out and saying why he is actually allowed to play.

Especially considering last week the AFL came out and defended why Stephen Milne shouldnt be playing.

[Jim05]

We will have to wait for the ASADA report but im fairly confident we will escape with minimal damage.
The ACC report is still claiming that AOD was not on the WADA banned list last year.
Still reckon the AFL will give us the biggest whack not ASADA

[Jim05]

Gerard Wheatley, Dave Parkin, Tony Shaw, Dermott Brerton all agree that it is a joke that Watson will be playing tonight and that the AFL have really stuffed up by not coming out and saying why he is actually allowed to play.

Especially considering last week the AFL came out and defended why Stephen Milne shouldnt be playing.

Darcy, Ling and Co on channel 7 are quite supportive of Jobe