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Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:11 am
by bennymacca
double lawyered, haha.

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:30 pm
by Jim05
So with Van Berlo rupturing an achillies and missing a fair chunk of the year does the golden boy assume the captaincy or do they give it to an elser statesman?

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:31 pm
by Ruben Carter
First they lose Tambling, now Van Berlo... how much worse can it get for the poor old Crows :lol:

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:51 pm
by daysofourlives
Ruben Carter wrote:First they lose Tambling, now Van Berlo... how much worse can it get for the poor old Crows :lol:


Bookmakers have moved the Crows into 10/1 for the flag on the back of this news.

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:31 pm
by Squids
Who will become the new whipping boy?

Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:36 pm
by Jim05
Squids wrote:Who will become the new whipping boy?

Betts, when they realise what a squib he is. Give the fans a month before he is labelled a overpaid Carlton hack

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:42 pm
by Squids
Jim05 wrote:
Squids wrote:Who will become the new whipping boy?

Betts, when they realise what a squib he is. Give the fans a month before he is labelled a overpaid Carlton hack


Good call.

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:46 pm
by Failed Creation
Jim05 wrote:
Squids wrote:Who will become the new whipping boy?

Betts, when they realise what a squib he is. Give the fans a month before he is labelled a overpaid Carlton hack


He's the new Ronnie Burns.

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:57 am
by bennymacca
Jim05 wrote:
Squids wrote:Who will become the new whipping boy?

Betts, when they realise what a squib he is. Give the fans a month before he is labelled a overpaid Carlton hack


38, 42, 50, 48, 27 goals in the last 5 years.

just looking at the leading goalkickers for small forwards in those 5 years, you could pretty much say milne, lecras and stevie j (if you can call him a small foward) are the only ones that did consistently better than him.

also compare that with the crows leading goalkicker tally over those years 57, 46, 32, 63, 33

betts tally would have placed him 4th, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 3rd for the crows goalkicking.

but dont let stats get in the way of a good story lads

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:14 am
by Jim05
bennymacca wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Squids wrote:Who will become the new whipping boy?

Betts, when they realise what a squib he is. Give the fans a month before he is labelled a overpaid Carlton hack


38, 42, 50, 48, 27 goals in the last 5 years.

just looking at the leading goalkickers for small forwards in those 5 years, you could pretty much say milne, lecras and stevie j (if you can call him a small foward) are the only ones that did consistently better than him.

also compare that with the crows leading goalkicker tally over those years 57, 46, 32, 63, 33

betts tally would have placed him 4th, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 3rd for the crows goalkicking.

but dont let stats get in the way of a good story lads

Those stats dont disprove that he is a squib though. I think many Carlton fans were of the belief he has a pea heart and tended to go missing in the big ones. And while he is doing well at the Cows all will be good but watch the knives come out if he doesnt perform, thats when the Carlton hack label will get thrown around

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:19 am
by bennymacca
if being a top 4 small forward over the past 5 years makes you a spud, then im happy to have all the spuds other clubs can manage!

i think it is really good recruiting by the crows. a goal scoring small forward is something we have lacked for years, porpoise isnt really a genuine crumber, petrekno doesnt kick anywhere near enough goals, and callinan did ok for 1 year but didnt put any forward line pressure on which betts can do too.

recruited for our glaring weakness, i think if he gets us 40 goals he will be worth every cent

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:39 am
by Booney
Betts kicked goals in Carlton's forward half as they didn't have any big men doing it!

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:46 am
by Baron Greenback
With tex and pods up there and possibly jenkins I can see betts being a huge addition for the crows. Imagine if carlton had someone he could actually crumb off

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:50 am
by Spargo
Flip side - he may also thrive in a forward line with Walker, Podsiadly, Jenkins.
EVERY team has their squibs that don't go in as hard as others, but if they're kicking goals most supporters will overlook this.
Don't get me wrong, I hate the crows more than anyone but getting Betts may well fill a void they have and be a great get.
North went after him pretty hard also and were disappointed to miss out.

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:55 am
by Booney
Can win the flag :
Hawthorn
Fremantle
Sydney

Making up the rest of the 8 from (one or two might be unlucky with injury/form) :
Geelong
Port
Richmond
Adelaide
North
Collingwood
Carlton

Unlikely to play finals (one might get lucky):
Essendon
West Coast
Gold Coast
Bulldogs

Making up the numbers:
Brisbane
St Kilda
Melbourne
GWS

All in no particular order.

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:05 am
by valleys07
Jim05 wrote:
bennymacca wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Squids wrote:Who will become the new whipping boy?

Betts, when they realise what a squib he is. Give the fans a month before he is labelled a overpaid Carlton hack


38, 42, 50, 48, 27 goals in the last 5 years.

just looking at the leading goalkickers for small forwards in those 5 years, you could pretty much say milne, lecras and stevie j (if you can call him a small foward) are the only ones that did consistently better than him.

also compare that with the crows leading goalkicker tally over those years 57, 46, 32, 63, 33

betts tally would have placed him 4th, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 3rd for the crows goalkicking.

but dont let stats get in the way of a good story lads

Those stats dont disprove that he is a squib though. I think many Carlton fans were of the belief he has a pea heart and tended to go missing in the big ones. And while he is doing well at the Cows all will be good but watch the knives come out if he doesnt perform, thats when the Carlton hack label will get thrown around


That is what I will be watching for- how he performs against top 4 teams.

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:08 am
by Jim05
bennymacca wrote:if being a top 4 small forward over the past 5 years makes you a spud, then im happy to have all the spuds other clubs can manage!

i think it is really good recruiting by the crows. a goal scoring small forward is something we have lacked for years, porpoise isnt really a genuine crumber, petrekno doesnt kick anywhere near enough goals, and callinan did ok for 1 year but didnt put any forward line pressure on which betts can do too.

recruited for our glaring weakness, i think if he gets us 40 goals he will be worth every cent

I didnt say spud, I said squib, big differance. Eddie can definately play but his lack of heart and effort have been questioned many times over his career

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:17 am
by bennymacca
Booney wrote:Can win the flag :
Hawthorn
Fremantle
Sydney

Making up the rest of the 8 from (one or two might be unlucky with injury/form) :
Geelong
Port
Richmond
Adelaide
North
Collingwood
Carlton

Unlikely to play finals (one might get lucky):
Essendon
West Coast
Gold Coast
Bulldogs

Making up the numbers:
Brisbane
St Kilda
Melbourne
GWS

All in no particular order.


would probably put essendon in the bracket that will be pushing for finals, i dont think they will be any worse than last year assuming their players dont all get banned, but other than that i think its a pretty decent assessment.

Jim05 wrote:I didnt say spud, I said squib, big differance. Eddie can definately play but his lack of heart and effort have been questioned many times over his career


fair enough, i misinterpreted. i still think he has the potential to be one of the crows better signings in the trade period

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:56 am
by Hefty
Ruben Carter wrote:First they lose Tambling, now Van Berlo... how much worse can it get for the poor old Crows :lol:


If Shaun McKernan goes down we are screwed!!

Re: Predictions for 2014

PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:43 pm
by Rik E Boy
Booney wrote:Can win the flag :
Hawthorn
Fremantle
Sydney

Making up the rest of the 8 from (one or two might be unlucky with injury/form) :
Geelong
Port
Richmond
Adelaide
North
Collingwood
Carlton

Unlikely to play finals (one might get lucky):
Essendon
West Coast
Gold Coast
Bulldogs

Making up the numbers:
Brisbane
St Kilda
Melbourne
GWS

All in no particular order.



Pretty much. Although I rate North as a possible bolter and Carlton are shit.

regards,

REB