Trades for 2011 Season

[Booney]

I see loads of value in Cox as for mine he appears ready for a change of environment and I'm not sure I agree with you on the WCE list CK.

Thier forward half relies on LeCras who is not a KPP, Kennedy who is sound yet has a long way to go to be a consistent CHF and with Lynch almost non-productive I dont see where they would get their goals from. I agree they have a sound mid-field although it lacks real speed and the loss of Staker, nil-input of Glass and as mentioned rapid decline of Embley leaves them fragile in the back half. I think they have bottom 4 written all over them and as we know luck or lack of it can drop you several positions on the ladder without much trouble at all.

[Booney]

Agree with the comment that the Crows should have a go at a high profile player in the trading week as they did with Darren Jarman. I think Adam Cooney would bring a lot to the Crows and would be an ideal candidate for the Captaincy position at the Crows.

Adam Cooney made it very very clear that he was not interested in returning to Adelaide in a press conference recently. I also doubt he would seek a trade or the bulldogs would trade him whilst their premiership window is still ajar.

For me, I believe Port need three things:

A ruckman
Port should target one of Carlton's ruckman (seem to be a lot of them there) and offer them a permanent rucking position with Brogan while the youngsters grow. Hamish McIntosh could also be the go (he was offered for bait last year I think?)

A gun forward
This would probably be the hardest thing for Port to get. May need to settle on say the Big Q Lynch for the time been. Just need a big target for the midfielders to kick at.

A speedy half back
A player who can break the lines and deliver directly into the forward line, a player similar to Krakouer at his best. There seems to be an abundance of these in the top four clubs so perhaps target one of those and bump up their pay.

I think the players Port can use as trade bait could include Salopek, Motlop, Krakouer, Logan, Davenport, C. Cornes, P Stewart, K. Cornes, Broadbent.

I am also of the opinion Krakouer has already signed with GC. He is looking very disinterested at the moment.

Firstly, Q.Lynch a "gun forward" ? Please, he is the biggest muppett in the game, sure he can kick it 70m when he gets it but where is it going?

Salopek might go anyway but we must try to keep him, no way would I trade him. Logan adds some grunt we sorely need more of and every time I hear Kane mentioned as trade bait I just shudder. Top 2 at worst in our last 6 B&F's and you want to put him up for trade?

[Dirko]

A ruckman
Port should target one of Carlton's ruckman (seem to be a lot of them there) and offer them a permanent rucking position with Brogan while the youngsters grow. Hamish McIntosh could also be the go (he was offered for bait last year I think?)

We'll swap Sauce Jacobs for Trengove. He's a Carlton supporter & Kane Lucas lives with his Mum & Dad too.

[CK]

I see loads of value in Cox as for mine he appears ready for a change of environment and I'm not sure I agree with you on the WCE list CK.

Thier forward half relies on LeCras who is not a KPP, Kennedy who is sound yet has a long way to go to be a consistent CHF and with Lynch almost non-productive I dont see where they would get their goals from. I agree they have a sound mid-field although it lacks real speed and the loss of Staker, nil-input of Glass and as mentioned rapid decline of Embley leaves them fragile in the back half. I think they have bottom 4 written all over them and as we know luck or lack of it can drop you several positions on the ladder without much trouble at all.

I see what you are saying, but there still looks to be some pretty reasonable players in there, although some of these are also in the midst of form declines. It wasn't so long ago that Ben McKinley was regularly kicking three to four a game, but he seems lost away from Subiaco - ditto for Ashley Hansen, who used to be a real form barometer for them. Agreed on the midfield, pace is their major issue and some still cough it up a bit (Priddis is getting better with this, but still has a fair clanger count). There are younger players who are still learning there - Chris Masten, Nic Natanui, even Scott Selwood.

Down back, they are really emerging though. The likes of Beau Waters, Eric Mackenzie, Will Schofield and Shannon Hurn work well together, but yes, the lack of input from Glass has hurt them back there.

[Hondo]

It really surprises me that, for the list they have, John Worsfold isn't under more pressure there. There are still a number of the premiership players there, but some have been hit hard with injury (Kerr, Cox), and some have had spectacular form declines (Andrew Embley). Considering all of that, however, West Coast still look major underachievers.

There's a huge/massive thread on the West Coast board on BF discussing Worsfold's coaching tenure. The discussion makes the anti-NC forum discussions earlier this season look like nothing.

I know the fans don't dictate the coach but I think it might be the fact that he is contracted for next year that will be the only saviour. Although you read this article and you wonder .....

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/in ... 5879922500

[JK]

I don't think Port are without forward KPP's ... Sure they might not have a Brown or Riewoldt, but there aren't too many of them floating about.

I reckon Schultz, Stewart and Westoff give them something to work with and all have shown a bit this year, as has Ebert at various times, and we haven't even seen Butcher yet.

I think they just need to have mostly healthy cattle (and to that extent it could be worth trading Salopek, as much as I rate him) and get their structures right .. They have a lot of good small forward options and a midfield that can hit the scoreboard a bit.

Losing a lynch-pin like Tredrea normally takes a while (structure-wise) to become accustomed to, starting the year from scratch without him should speed the process up a bit.

[sound4]

Agree with the comment that the Crows should have a go at a high profile player in the trading week as they did with Darren Jarman. I think Adam Cooney would bring a lot to the Crows and would be an ideal candidate for the Captaincy position at the Crows.

Adam Cooney made it very very clear that he was not interested in returning to Adelaide in a press conference recently. I also doubt he would seek a trade or the bulldogs would trade him whilst their premiership window is still ajar.

For me, I believe Port need three things:

A ruckman
Port should target one of Carlton's ruckman (seem to be a lot of them there) and offer them a permanent rucking position with Brogan while the youngsters grow. Hamish McIntosh could also be the go (he was offered for bait last year I think?)

A gun forward
This would probably be the hardest thing for Port to get. May need to settle on say the Big Q Lynch for the time been. Just need a big target for the midfielders to kick at.

A speedy half back
A player who can break the lines and deliver directly into the forward line, a player similar to Krakouer at his best. There seems to be an abundance of these in the top four clubs so perhaps target one of those and bump up their pay.

I think the players Port can use as trade bait could include Salopek, Motlop, Krakouer, Logan, Davenport, C. Cornes, P Stewart, K. Cornes, Broadbent.

I am also of the opinion Krakouer has already signed with GC. He is looking very disinterested at the moment.

Firstly, Q.Lynch a "gun forward" ? Please, he is the biggest muppett in the game, sure he can kick it 70m when he gets it but where is it going?

Salopek might go anyway but we must try to keep him, no way would I trade him. Logan adds some grunt we sorely need more of and every time I hear Kane mentioned as trade bait I just shudder. Top 2 at worst in our last 6 B&F's and you want to put him up for trade?

Yeah Q Lynch is a hack but I'm just trying to say we need a big boy down there. D Stewart will be awesome soon enough but we just need someone to tie us over until he breaks through. What other key forwards may be on the move?

I would get rid of Salopek, he is too slow and is so frustrating to watch but I would not off load without getting something half decent. i just don't think I like K Cornes

Logan is tough and I enjoy watching him play but you can't keep every player and I would be happy to see him go if it meant we got a young gun or someone we desperately need.

[Hondo]

On Cox to the Crows - remember the Crows' strict policy on 1-2 year max contracts after the age of 30. They won't make an exception for Cox and he won't move clubs and states for anything less than 3 years I reckon.

[sound4]

A ruckman
Port should target one of Carlton's ruckman (seem to be a lot of them there) and offer them a permanent rucking position with Brogan while the youngsters grow. Hamish McIntosh could also be the go (he was offered for bait last year I think?)

We'll swap Sauce Jacobs for Trengove. He's a Carlton supporter & Kane Lucas lives with his Mum & Dad too.

You can have Bass

[Pat Malone]

South Australians at other clubs that could be options for the Crows (havent looked into any contracts so feel free to eliminate some):

Jordan Russell, Sam Jacobs, Sean Rusling, Alwyn Davey, Byron Schammer, Andrew Mackie, Steven Motlop, Ryan Scheonmakers, Lindsay Thomas, Ed Lower, Shane Edwards, Sam Fisher, Lewis Johnston, Sam Butler, Tim Houlihan, Stephen Tiller (is best mates with Everitt who apparently wants out so could be a double trade, definitely in last year of contract)

Some of these players are no chance of movng (would assume Mackie and Schoenmakers and Russell all settled) but a big play could be made if the Crows were willing.

I would assume the Crows have room to move in their cap after this year and are financial enough to be able to pay 100% of the cap over the next few years so making a play for Fisher or Rusling might be a chance if they can give a Mumford like deal (4 years, 1 million bucks) although Fisher prob worth more.

[JK]

Schoenmakers could be one to chase, it just depends on how good his current club and any interested club believes he can/will be.

[Rik E Boy]

A ruckman
Port should target one of Carlton's ruckman (seem to be a lot of them there) and offer them a permanent rucking position with Brogan while the youngsters grow. Hamish McIntosh could also be the go (he was offered for bait last year I think?)

We'll swap Sauce Jacobs for Trengove. He's a Carlton supporter & Kane Lucas lives with his Mum & Dad too.

All Carlton players, and supporters live with their Mum and Dad.

regards,

REB

[Turbo]

A ruckman
Port should target one of Carlton's ruckman (seem to be a lot of them there) and offer them a permanent rucking position with Brogan while the youngsters grow. Hamish McIntosh could also be the go (he was offered for bait last year I think?)

We'll swap Sauce Jacobs for Trengove. He's a Carlton supporter & Kane Lucas lives with his Mum & Dad too.

All Carlton players, and supporters live with their Mum and Dad.

regards,

REB

So do Geelong supporters but they also all have handbags

[Media Park]

A ruckman
Port should target one of Carlton's ruckman (seem to be a lot of them there) and offer them a permanent rucking position with Brogan while the youngsters grow. Hamish McIntosh could also be the go (he was offered for bait last year I think?)

We'll swap Sauce Jacobs for Trengove. He's a Carlton supporter & Kane Lucas lives with his Mum & Dad too.

All Carlton players, and supporters live with their Mum and Dad.

regards,

REB

So do Geelong supporters but they also all have handbags

Well the Cats do have to carry their medals in something, don't they?

Not something your Bluebaggers need to worry about...


Regards,

Media Park.

[Footy Smart]

In Craigs last press conference he said that we need to look at pacey game breaking midfielders. We dont have a problem getting the footy in a contested situation its getting it away from the contest that is the problem. yes we have dangerfield with pace but he often is the one getting the contested footy and atm hasnt taken that step to be a game breaker in the midfield.

Could a bloke like Sherman(or similar player who has that pace X factor about him) add something to the Crows? Who else is out there like him? Someone that can break the line and get it in long and quick to the forward line?

I know Lindsay Thomas has been mentioned but more as a crumbing forward and that would be great to see up under Tippet and Walker.

[Turbo]

Ha ha ha. Enjoy it, once Gazza leaves there won't be many more. By the way 16 rings a bell for some reason.
Despite all that I would prefer the Cats to win the flag over Collingwood to sustain the colliwobble legacy

[Rik E Boy]

Ha ha ha. Enjoy it, once Gazza leaves there won't be many more. By the way 16 rings a bell for some reason.
Despite all that I would prefer the Cats to win the flag over Collingwood to sustain the colliwobble legacy

16 Does ring a bell. Next year that will be how many years since your mob won a flag. You'll come up with 44 but don't think it can't happen to you. By getting rid of Fev last year you might now be in with a chance of extending that drought. You could have been real contenders with the Fev as you made real progress last season. I'll guess you'll never know. Thanks for your good wishes for the rest of the season.

regards,

REB

[Media Park]

Crows can have Lindsay, and Johncock can go back to Pt Lincoln

[Footy Smart]

Crows can have Lindsay, and Johncock can go back to Pt Lincoln

Whaaaaat? please explain

[stan]

Just quickly if Cox is out of contact at the end of this season, would that make him a target of the Gold Coast?