AFL - Round 9 discussion - (and live scores)

[Baron Greenback]

AFL era is from 1990 to present. We started beating them in 2004 when our midfield was still in nappies. That much is fact. What is speculation is your comment.

Once again you bring opinion to the table when facts are presented.

regards,

REB

I used my fact-o-meter and it found none here

I think Brisbanes dominant 3 premierships in a row will take a very long time to beat.

1. The first season of the AFL was in 1990
2. Geelong 13.14.92 d. Brisbane Lions 9.11.65

The ONLY thing Brisbane did that Geelong did not was win three flags in a row. Winning percentage, most grand finals, highest league score, equal most flags all to Geelong. Geelong also did not get the benefit of a club merger, they have never had an extended salary cap. Brisbane did not lose their coach after their second flag nor did they lose their best player to a rival club.

If Brisbane's 2001 is equal to Geelong's 2007 then that means we are going to finish tenth this season (If our 2013 is their 2007). Your fact o meter is up the frizz. Lay off the Crowvertiser buddy.

regards,

REB

In fact, there's not a lot of difference between the two teams over the six-year period of success.

Lions
1999 4th
2000 5th
2001 1st
2002 1st
2003 1st
2004 2nd

Cats
2007 1st
2008 2nd
2009 1st
2010 3rd
2011 1st
2012 7th

[Wedgie]

Brisbane
2005 11th
Geelong
2013 Equal top

AFL started in 1990 was it?
Add the stats of the 90s in too.
Geelong are so clearly on top its not funny with wins/losses.
God, imagine how far the gap would be if you threw in Fitzroy and the Bears stats.
Geelong have easily the best record of the AFL era and there's no sign of them dropping off markedly.

[Rik E Boy]

Not to mention the wooden spoon they got as well. Geelong have not finished lower than 12th in their 150 year history.

regards,

REB

[the wonder elephant]

Not to mention the wooden spoon they got as well. Geelong have not finished lower than 12th in their 150 year history.

regards,

REB

S have they under achieved then by not winning more flags in that 150 yrs or are we just talking AFL

[whufc]

All makes Centrals 12 GF's in a row, 9 premiership in a decade look RIDICIULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[beeroclock]

Lyons was in the action of kicking there was no need for Ziebell the clean him up. He wasn't protecting himself, he had every intention to clean him up. He had plenty of time to take a side step to avoid contact, just like he had time to change from going in for the smother to cleaning him up.

Looks to me as though he left the ground to smother the footy, but missed and collected Lyons on the way down.

Correct Q.
Had .1 of a second to protect himself as well as not destroy the Crows player.
A shirt front is still legal wtf.
Ziebell could have sent him into next week if he wanted too.

[kickinit]

Lyons was in the action of kicking there was no need for Ziebell the clean him up. He wasn't protecting himself, he had every intention to clean him up. He had plenty of time to take a side step to avoid contact, just like he had time to change from going in for the smother to cleaning him up.

Looks to me as though he left the ground to smother the footy, but missed and collected Lyons on the way down.

Correct Q.
Had .1 of a second to protect himself as well as not destroy the Crows player.
A shirt front is still legal wtf.
Ziebell could have sent him into next week if he wanted too.

if he wanted to protect himself then why did he leave the ground and make high contact? He's made the decision to go from the smoother to making contact, then he's made another decision to leave the ground and collect him high.

[beeroclock]

Lyons was in the action of kicking there was no need for Ziebell the clean him up. He wasn't protecting himself, he had every intention to clean him up. He had plenty of time to take a side step to avoid contact, just like he had time to change from going in for the smother to cleaning him up.

Looks to me as though he left the ground to smother the footy, but missed and collected Lyons on the way down.

Correct Q.
Had .1 of a second to protect himself as well as not destroy the Crows player.
A shirt front is still legal wtf.
Ziebell could have sent him into next week if he wanted too.

if he wanted to protect himself then why did he leave the ground and make high contact? He's made the decision to go from the smoother to making contact, then he's made another decision to leave the ground and collect him high.

The guy must be a rhode scholar to do all of that in such a short time.

[Rik E Boy]

Not to mention the wooden spoon they got as well. Geelong have not finished lower than 12th in their 150 year history.

regards,

REB

S have they under achieved then by not winning more flags in that 150 yrs or are we just talking AFL

If you are talking all that time we have 14 flags as we did pretty well in the VFA in the 1880's. In terms of underachieving in the VFL era then that is a fair call. Our VFA history has us as a leader, Our VFL history has us as a middle of the road side and our AFL history has us as THE leader.

Our biggest underachievement for me is when we only picked up one flag with guys like the Lord twins, Polly Farmer, Sam Newman and Billy Goggin running around during the 1960's. Darn that Hafey and Barassi!

Continuing on with the Catter history lesson, Geelong disbanded during the Second World War and we lost many players to rival clubs, most notably Lindsay White to South Melbourne I think it was. When we re-entered the league we promptly picked up a spoon. Proudest spoon in league history.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

All makes Centrals 12 GF's in a row, 9 premiership in a decade look RIDICIULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do it in the A Grade son.

regards,

REB

[Mr Beefy]

Not to mention the wooden spoon they got as well. Geelong have not finished lower than 12th in their 150 year history.

regards,

REB

S have they under achieved then by not winning more flags in that 150 yrs or are we just talking AFL

If you are talking all that time we have 14 flags as we did pretty well in the VFA in the 1880's. In terms of underachieving in the VFL era then that is a fair call. Our VFA history has us as a leader, Our VFL history has us as a middle of the road side and our AFL history has us as THE leader.

Our biggest underachievement for me is when we only picked up one flag with guys like the Lord twins, Polly Farmer, Sam Newman and Billy Goggin running around during the 1960's. Darn that Hafey and Barassi!

Continuing on with the Catter history lesson, Geelong disbanded during the Second World War and we lost many players to rival clubs, most notably Lindsay White to South Melbourne I think it was. When we re-entered the league we promptly picked up a spoon. Proudest spoon in league history.

regards,

REB

16 REB
VFL/AFL: 9 (1925, 1931, 1937, 1951, 1952, 1963, 2007, 2009, 2011)
Victorian Football Association: 7 (1878, 1879, 1880, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1886)

[Jim05]

They dont include VFA records.
The current records start when the VFL//AFL started in 1897 and the VFA then became the second tier.
If you included the VFA flags then Essendon have 20 but for some reason they dont acknowledge the first 20 years of football

[Jim05]

Was mentioned on AFL360 last night that Heath Shaw was left out of the game against Sydney because of his skin fold tests were not satisfactory
Wouldve though his ability would far outweigh being a few kilos too heavy

[woodublieve12]

Was mentioned on AFL360 last night that Heath Shaw was left out of the game against Sydney because of his skin fold tests were not satisfactory
Wouldve though his ability would far outweigh being a few kilos too heavy

slob.

[kickinit]

The guy must be a rhode scholar to do all of that in such a short time.

he had plenty of time and knew what he was doing.

[the wonder elephant]

Not to mention the wooden spoon they got as well. Geelong have not finished lower than 12th in their 150 year history.

regards,

REB

S have they under achieved then by not winning more flags in that 150 yrs or are we just talking AFL

If you are talking all that time we have 14 flags as we did pretty well in the VFA in the 1880's. In terms of underachieving in the VFL era then that is a fair call. Our VFA history has us as a leader, Our VFL history has us as a middle of the road side and our AFL history has us as THE leader.

Our biggest underachievement for me is when we only picked up one flag with guys like the Lord twins, Polly Farmer, Sam Newman and Billy Goggin running around during the 1960's. Darn that Hafey and Barassi!

Continuing on with the Catter history lesson, Geelong disbanded during the Second World War and we lost many players to rival clubs, most notably Lindsay White to South Melbourne I think it was. When we re-entered the league we promptly picked up a spoon. Proudest spoon in league history.

regards,

REB

Thanks for the history lesson mate and yes I do agree that your 7 years have been awesome and I do like the cats and the way they play todays game , I would also think the cats under achived in the Blight era by not winning a flag in the late 80s early 90s with the greats of that era at geelong Ablett , couch , brownless , stoneham , riccardi etc .. should have one at least 1 in that time imo .

[Squids]

Actually Red West Coast are the best clean team of the 'afl area' which is a term people use when their club was a joke for the previous 100 years.

[Rik E Boy]

Blight teams were good but did not underachieve with the possible exception of the 1992-93 seasons. The one that got away was 1992 but as Squiddley said above West Coast were a fair side.

We lost to the Hawks of the eighties, West Coast of the nineties, and the only Carlton side to win a flag in the AFL era, the term used by supporters teams that know how to draft players and haven't been crap in the current century.

regards,

REB

[Turbo]

Blight teams were good but did not underachieve with the possible exception of the 1992-93 seasons. The one that got away was 1992 but as Squiddley said above West Coast were a fair side.

We lost to the Hawks of the eighties, West Coast of the nineties, and the only Carlton side to win a flag in the AFL era, the term used by supporters teams that know how to draft players and haven't been crap in the current century.

regards,

REB

And what a Carlton team it was.

[Rik E Boy]

Blight teams were good but did not underachieve with the possible exception of the 1992-93 seasons. The one that got away was 1992 but as Squiddley said above West Coast were a fair side.

We lost to the Hawks of the eighties, West Coast of the nineties, and the only Carlton side to win a flag in the AFL era, the term used by supporters teams that know how to draft players and haven't been crap in the current century.

regards,

REB

And what a Carlton team it was.

Carntavaday.

regards,

REB