AFL - Round 9 discussion - (and live scores)

[The Sleeping Giant]

Is she worth it?

[Spargo]

Not for me.

[Rik E Boy]

AFL era is from 1990 to present. We started beating them in 2004 when our midfield was still in nappies. That much is fact. What is speculation is your comment.

Once again you bring opinion to the table when facts are presented.

regards,

REB

I used my fact-o-meter and it found none here

I think Brisbanes dominant 3 premierships in a row will take a very long time to beat.

1. The first season of the AFL was in 1990
2. Geelong 13.14.92 d. Brisbane Lions 9.11.65

The ONLY thing Brisbane did that Geelong did not was win three flags in a row. Winning percentage, most grand finals, highest league score, equal most flags all to Geelong. Geelong also did not get the benefit of a club merger, they have never had an extended salary cap. Brisbane did not lose their coach after their second flag nor did they lose their best player to a rival club.

If Brisbane's 2001 is equal to Geelong's 2007 then that means we are going to finish tenth this season (If our 2013 is their 2007). Your fact o meter is up the frizz. Lay off the Crowvertiser buddy.

regards,

REB

[beeroclock]

In the case of Zeibell.
How can two guys running at each other from other directions avoid contact.
One was charging in to smother then realised he wasn't going to get there in time and started to protect himself at the last second as well as avoid killing the Crows player at the same time.
Ziebell should be commended for not laying the Crows player out to rest.
Amazingly they give him a three week spell.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Think it was more luck that he didn't absolutely lay out the crow player.

[beeroclock]

Think it was more luck that he didn't absolutely lay out the crow player.

Maybe he should have smashed him.
Look at it again.
He could have destroyed him.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Yep. I realise that.

[kickinit]

In the case of Zeibell.
How can two guys running at each other from other directions avoid contact.
One was charging in to smother then realised he wasn't going to get there in time and started to protect himself at the last second as well as avoid killing the Crows player at the same time.
Ziebell should be commended for not laying the Crows player out to rest.
Amazingly they give him a three week spell.

for starters they gave him a 2week spell, which would of went down to 1 with a early guilty plead. He has been suspended for 7 matches in the past 2 years so he got a 50% loading. he also had 67.5 carry over points from last year. So his total put him to 4 games with a early guilty plead reduces it to 3.

His problem was that he made high contact and that he left the ground. If he had kept his feet on the ground he wouldn't of made high contact and he wouldn't of been reported. Any time you leave the ground and make high contact your going to get games. He made the decision to leave the ground when he didn't have too, in this case the MRP got the decision right.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Game on moles.

[HH3]

for starters they gave him a 2week spell, which would of went down to 1 with a early guilty plead. He has been suspended for 7 matches in the past 2 years so he got a 50% loading. he also had 67.5 carry over points from last year. So his total put him to 4 games with a early guilty plead reduces it to 3.

His problem was that he made high contact and that he left the ground. If he had kept his feet on the ground he wouldn't of made high contact and he wouldn't of been reported. Any time you leave the ground and make high contact your going to get games. He made the decision to leave the ground when he didn't have too, in this case the MRP got the decision right.

Firstly...if he hadnt jumped, his feet being grounded wouldve created a bigger impact with the Crows player (think of it like hitting a barrier thats secured to the ground, instead of something that is loose), most likely resulting in ******* him up.

Secondly...watch it again. Zeibell hits Lyons shoulder and chest. I cant see where he hits him high.

Finally...if he had kept his feet on the ground, he probably wouldve got 7 games.

Your theory is shot.

I understand in todays AFL, any contact is frowned upon. Its exactly the reason I watch **** all AFL.

[kickinit]

Firstly...if he hadnt jumped, his feet being grounded wouldve created a bigger impact with the Crows player (think of it like hitting a barrier thats secured to the ground, instead of something that is loose), most likely resulting in ******* him up.

Secondly...watch it again. Zeibell hits Lyons shoulder and chest. I cant see where he hits him high.

Finally...if he had kept his feet on the ground, he probably wouldve got 7 games.

Your theory is shot.

I understand in todays AFL, any contact is frowned upon. Its exactly the reason I watch **** all AFL.

so your trying to compare someone having their feet on the ground to something secured to the ground? was his feet bolted down or something?

Lyons was in the action of kicking there was no need for Ziebell the clean him up. He wasn't protecting himself, he had every intention to clean him up. He had plenty of time to take a side step to avoid contact, just like he had time to change from going in for the smother to cleaning him up.

He hit his head (look at the photo's below) in the 2 photo's you will see the only part of Lyon's body that moves is his head, which is caused by the impact of Ziebell's shoulder. Also you will see there is no contact on Lyon's shoulder. Ziebel left the ground which in any high contact is the worse thing you can do, by leaving the ground you will always get intentional contact

In today's AFL any contact that breaks the laws of the game is frowned upon, any contact that is within the laws of the game isn't.

[whufc]

Yep any time a player leaves the ground they are going to be seen as attempting to go high on the opposition player. You leave the ground you will get game.

The biggest problem is the inconsistency of the MRP which is absolutely killing AFL. Mainly due to the fact that now a medical report is being used a determining factor.

Personally i would have rated Zeibells worse than James Kellys.

[Rik E Boy]

Didn't the Hawk guy leave the ground? He got the Buddy treatment.

regards,

REB

[Jim05]

The MRP is a disgrace when Ziebell gets done for that yet Jolly whacks someone off the ball and gets let off. I know which act was more cowardly and intentional.

[Johno6]

once again I know it was from over 2 months ago
but I still don't understand how Thomas got off his charge?
and yet everyone since has been done (besides jolly)

[Q.]

Lyons was in the action of kicking there was no need for Ziebell the clean him up. He wasn't protecting himself, he had every intention to clean him up. He had plenty of time to take a side step to avoid contact, just like he had time to change from going in for the smother to cleaning him up.

Looks to me as though he left the ground to smother the footy, but missed and collected Lyons on the way down.

[HH3]

Piss **** weak

[CENTURION]

maybe he jumped, as a reflex to avoid a clash of heads.

[Baron Greenback]

AFL era is from 1990 to present. We started beating them in 2004 when our midfield was still in nappies. That much is fact. What is speculation is your comment.

Once again you bring opinion to the table when facts are presented.

regards,

REB

I used my fact-o-meter and it found none here

I think Brisbanes dominant 3 premierships in a row will take a very long time to beat.

1. The first season of the AFL was in 1990
2. Geelong 13.14.92 d. Brisbane Lions 9.11.65

The ONLY thing Brisbane did that Geelong did not was win three flags in a row. Winning percentage, most grand finals, highest league score, equal most flags all to Geelong. Geelong also did not get the benefit of a club merger, they have never had an extended salary cap. Brisbane did not lose their coach after their second flag nor did they lose their best player to a rival club.

If Brisbane's 2001 is equal to Geelong's 2007 then that means we are going to finish tenth this season (If our 2013 is their 2007). Your fact o meter is up the frizz. Lay off the Crowvertiser buddy.

regards,

REB

Brisbane finished last a year after the merger (1998).
Don't know if that helped. Only a couple of players from Fitzroy had an impact at Brisbane and only one - Chris Johnson - was part of the three-peat. (Lynch and Pike did not arrive via the merger).

I think both teams are great, but Geelong will certainly be the better when people look back.
I can't see the Cats dropping away for at least 7-8 years. They've impressed me so much with their young guns this season.

Having said that, no team will ever win 3 in a row again and that will be something Lions fans can always be proud of.

[Baron Greenback]

The MRP is a disgrace when Ziebell gets done for that yet Jolly whacks someone off the ball and gets let off. I know which act was more cowardly and intentional.

I can't believe Ziebell or Brown got done this week.
Absolute joke. I've lost complete faith in the AFL now if this is the path they want to go down.