Sack Craig

[tiger07andbeyond]

F.O.F.

work out what that stands for and get back to me you weak troll.

[Felch]

F.O.F.

work out what that stands for and get back to me you weak troll.

Not sure how asking for facts is trolling, or weak...

[Jimmy Ricard]

And Leigh Brown couldnt get a game at the Kangers, but played in a flag for the Magpies...

What about the recruiting of Dangerfield when everyone else overlooked him ?

Injuries are the no. 1 reason for our predicament - a reason, not an excuse either. Lets get 100 games into guys like Sloane, Dangerfield, Wright, Jacobs, Petrenko, Otten, and see where we are. Put McKay, Davis, Porps, Walker (even if its only this year) and things get better.

FFS, stop being the whinging, immature, uneducated, stereo-typical Crows supporters that everyone talks about and start backing your footy team ! Its frustrating at the moment, i know but things will turn - the club has too many good people involved to not turn things around.[/quote]

Every team has injuries and and any educated footy fan knows that to blame injuries is the number 1 cop out! All injuries do is uncover a lack of depth and possibly a problem with the work load or preparation of players.

As for the recruiting of Dangerfield, has shown glimpses that he will be a good player but hasn't exactly set the comp alight. Will be a good player eventually, but where is the next Thompson or Johncock to help him out? Sloane is probably the hardest we have but he just has a crack and is unlikely to ever worry opposition teams.

And anyone that can't see that there are problems with that list and think things will miraculously turn for the better with the inclusion of McKay and Davis are immature and uneducated in the football basics.

[bulldogs]

, Craig needs to waken up and the best thing for these players is for him to walk.

How long is it going to take?

How long do we put up with these soft performances?

How long do we keep going until breaking point?

When is breaking point?

If we beat Brisbane and the Gold Coast will the great NC think he is on the right track?

Someone tell him FFS

Not sure how much footy you have played or coached mate, but if a there are continuous soft performances, then the players in question usually are to blame. If i wasnt prepared to keep my head over the footy when i played, i couldnt blame the coach !

its not only about the head over the ball , there soft in there work rate, soft in the mind to keep going there mentally soft and the coach can play a role in that. craig sprouted they are a exciting young squad well show me the excitment, these players are goin backwards and i am afraid the coach must take the blame

[Felch]

They wont miraculously turn for the better, but they will get better. Its not rocket science, you put your better players back in, you generally play better footy.

BTW, the uneducated supporter comment wasnt directed at you JR, it was at some of the comments in general - i agree with some of your points.

Sloane will worry opposition sides though, he is the pick of the bunch.

Anyone involved with a footy club, at any level know that injuries can sabotage seasons - its not an excuse, it is a reason. Only very, very good sides can cover injuries and there are only a couple of them in the AFL at the moment.

[bulldogs]

They wont miraculously turn for the better, but they will get better. Its not rocket science, you put your better players back in, you generally play better footy.

BTW, the uneducated supporter comment wasnt directed at you JR, it was at some of the comments in general - i agree with some of your points.

Sloane will worry opposition sides though, he is the pick of the bunch.

Anyone involved with a footy club, at any level know that injuries can sabotage seasons - its not an excuse, it is a reason. Only very, very good sides can cover injuries and there are only a couple of them in the AFL at the moment.

no doubt felch, a full squad of players and the crows team is far better but that aint goin to happen. who in the side or squad has improved in the last 2 yrs.

[Felch]

, Craig needs to waken up and the best thing for these players is for him to walk.

How long is it going to take?

How long do we put up with these soft performances?

How long do we keep going until breaking point?

When is breaking point?

If we beat Brisbane and the Gold Coast will the great NC think he is on the right track?

Someone tell him FFS

Not sure how much footy you have played or coached mate, but if a there are continuous soft performances, then the players in question usually are to blame. If i wasnt prepared to keep my head over the footy when i played, i couldnt blame the coach !

its not only about the head over the ball , there soft in there work rate, soft in the mind to keep going there mentally soft and the coach can play a role in that. craig sprouted they are a eciting young squad well show me the excitment, these players are goin backwards and i am afraid the coach must take the blame

Yeah, i agree with some of that. Craig never should have spruked like he did in hindsight. But guys are saying on here that he accepts mediocrity, but i would argue that by spruking like he did, he set the bar very, very high - maybe too high. Is that a sackable offence ? We, as Crows supporters, have extremely high standards and expectations - we have been very lucky, supporting a club who has been around the mark for a long time. The system is set up for clubs to have peaks and troughs, and we bucked that system for a long time. The bloke we have coaching now deserves some credit for that.

[Felch]

They wont miraculously turn for the better, but they will get better. Its not rocket science, you put your better players back in, you generally play better footy.

BTW, the uneducated supporter comment wasnt directed at you JR, it was at some of the comments in general - i agree with some of your points.

Sloane will worry opposition sides though, he is the pick of the bunch.

Anyone involved with a footy club, at any level know that injuries can sabotage seasons - its not an excuse, it is a reason. Only very, very good sides can cover injuries and there are only a couple of them in the AFL at the moment.

no doubt felch, a full squad of players and the crows team is far better but that aint goin to happen. who in the side or squad has improved in the last 2 yrs.

Dangerfield, Sloane, Tippett, McKernan, Jaensch, Scott Thompson, Walker, Petrenko, Douglas, Davis are all better than they were 2 years ago. And a couple of others like Otten and Martin have been set back by injury.

[bulldogs]

thats right felch thats what made the crows such a good unit in his and ayres rein, they have lost that. Caig has done some good things and yes he should take some credit for that trait he implied but now is time to go

[tiger07andbeyond]

yes he should take some credit for that trait he implied but now is time to go

He should take some credit but should also know when to walk

[bulldogs]

They wont miraculously turn for the better, but they will get better. Its not rocket science, you put your better players back in, you generally play better footy.

BTW, the uneducated supporter comment wasnt directed at you JR, it was at some of the comments in general - i agree with some of your points.

Sloane will worry opposition sides though, he is the pick of the bunch.

Anyone involved with a footy club, at any level know that injuries can sabotage seasons - its not an excuse, it is a reason. Only very, very good sides can cover injuries and there are only a couple of them in the AFL at the moment.

no doubt felch, a full squad of players and the crows team is far better but that aint goin to happen. who in the side or squad has improved in the last 2 yrs.

Dangerfield, Sloane, Tippett, McKernan, Jaensch, Scott Thompson, Walker, Petrenko, Douglas, Davis are all better than they were 2 years ago. And a couple of others like Otten and Martin have been set back by injury.

yes i would agree on most, Petrenko not up to it and walker well he should be better same with Dangerfield, mckernan dont do enough/ tippett well lets bomb the ball on his head with 3 players jumpn on his back,Jaensch just, davis well his injury hurt,sloane good and thompson has stepped up. But really who is going fwd this year certainly not many out of those names

[Hondo]

Dangerfield was hardly "overlooked" by the other clubs !

In that draft the experts had him expected to go at around pick 13 or 14 and we got him at around pick 12.

I know this is a tough year but I think this is our most inexperienced team on the field for possibly ever in our history thanks to retirements and injuries. While it's a tough year for Craigy I don't think every single thing that is going wrong ON the field is his fault and that there is some alternative guru coach out there that can magically add 3 years' experience to our first and second year players.

[Mad Mat]

I pledge to only point out the positives for the remainder of the year.

Positive/s from the game:
1. Andy Otten

[Farmy]

If Craig honestly thinks that what the Crows dished up in the first quarter against the Bulldogs was actually good, then he has clearly lost it.

[Felch]

If Craig honestly thinks that what the Crows dished up in the first quarter against the Bulldogs was actually good, then he has clearly lost it.

Weren't they leading ???

Im taking that as good...

[Felch]

Dangerfield was hardly "overlooked" by the other clubs !

In that draft the experts had him expected to go at around pick 13 or 14 and we got him at around pick 12.

I know this is a tough year but I think this is our most inexperienced team on the field for possibly ever in our history thanks to retirements and injuries. While it's a tough year for Craigy I don't think every single thing that is going wrong ON the field is his fault and that there is some alternative guru coach out there that can magically add 3 years' experience to our first and second year players.

If he hadnt of made everyone aware of his intention to stay and finish his schooling regardless, then he would have gone earlier. Surely you arent forgeting all the hoo-haa about us picking him up, instead of Ebert or any other South Aussie kid ? I think we need to give the AFC recruiting staff some credit for sticking to their guns.

[bloods08]

If Craig honestly thinks that what the Crows dished up in the first quarter against the Bulldogs was actually good, then he has clearly lost it.

I think you may have lost it. 4 goals up iirc.

[Hondo]

If he hadnt of made everyone aware of his intention to stay and finish his schooling regardless, then he would have gone earlier. Surely you arent forgeting all the hoo-haa about us picking him up, instead of Ebert or any other South Aussie kid ? I think we need to give the AFC recruiting staff some credit for sticking to their guns.

There's also other lads on the list that for whom we haven't yet seen their true capabilities from the recent drafts. Talia among others. As supporters I think we either swallow our own heads in anger at the injustice of it all and the incompetence of our coaches or we have some patience and ride it out. Regardless of whether NC walks there are some really good kids on our list to be developed by someone.

We were already a young team and then we lost Porps, Vince was injured, Stevens injured, Otten out for 9 weeks, etc, etc. Excuses? To some extent but they are also reasons why we have had an inconsistent performance level.

Mark Harvey had that shocking year in 2009 I think it was when all he did was play kids. Now look at them. I still back them our lads in. Remember it's NC's "fault" that we expect to make finals every year.

[Farmy]

If Craig honestly thinks that what the Crows dished up in the first quarter against the Bulldogs was actually good, then he has clearly lost it.

I think you may have lost it. 4 goals up iirc.

No the Crows lost it, the game that is.

Honestly if anyone let alone the coach thinks that quarter was something to be proud of, well its clear they are lying or they know nothing about football.

A quarter of soft football with cheap and easy goals against a shit side, who then worked the Crows out, applied a little pressure and the Crows went to water.

Get back to me when the Crows are 4 goals up in spite of desperate intense pressure, not with a complete absence of it like the first quarter last night.

Oh wait, hang on. That has not happened once this year, and it won't happen while Neil "Finals losing uncontested football" Craig is in charge. And the Collingwood game doesn't count, Collingwood were not on, as evidenced by the fact they switched it on and smashed the pathetic Crows by 60 points in half a quarter.

[Footy Smart]

If Craig honestly thinks that what the Crows dished up in the first quarter against the Bulldogs was actually good, then he has clearly lost it.

I think you may have lost it. 4 goals up iirc.

No the Crows lost it, the game that is.

Honestly if anyone let alone the coach thinks that quarter was something to be proud of, well its clear they are lying or they know nothing about football.

A quarter of soft football with cheap and easy goals against a **** side, who then worked the Crows out, applied a little pressure and the Crows went to water.

Get back to me when the Crows are 4 goals up in spite of desperate intense pressure, not with a complete absence of it like the first quarter last night.

Oh wait, hang on. That has not happened once this year, and it won't happen while Neil "Finals losing uncontested football" Craig is in charge. And the Collingwood game doesn't count, Collingwood were not on, as evidenced by the fact they switched it on and smashed the pathetic Crows by 60 points in half a quarter.

You are an imbecile Farmy, a ****** of the highest order. You are so anti-NC that you will never give the 'players' any credit. You will always find a factor that minimises their effort. If you think the boys are going out there and not trying you are as you put it "lying or no nothing about football". The players are preparing themselves as best they can and while things aren’t working they are trying that you cant take away from them. You can only play against the team that is out there.

You are a supporter that AFC doesn’t want or need. So do the rest of the AFC supporter base a favour and **** the hell off because you are giving us a bad name and the rest of the crow hating/bashing supporters out there love it and it does no good what so ever.