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Postby westozfalcon » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:45 pm

I says a lot about the equity of the competition when people talk about being happy with their team's draw.
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby valleys07 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:38 am

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Excellent draw for Sydney. Only play teams that finished below us in 2012.


Haha!

What I would give to be able to say that!
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2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby RustyCage » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:53 am

Happy with Ports draw
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby Baron Greenback » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:43 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
Baron Greenback wrote:Pretty happy with Lions draw.
Only play Geelong (who should be on the slide) and North Melbourne (who knows how they'll go) out of this year's top top 8 twice.
Great start and finish to year, but run of doom in the middle with matches against:
Sydney (SCG)
West Coast (G)
Essendon (ES)
Carlton (G)
Collingwood (G) our only Friday night match
Fremantle (PS)
Geelong (G)
Hawthorn (AS)

Eek!


Dream on. We flogged you by six goals in the wet last year at the Gabba.

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If I could pick any sides in the top 8 to play twice next year it would be Geelong, Adelaide and North Melbourne.
Got 2 of the 3.
Certainly wouldn't want to play Swans, Hawks, Pies, or the WA teams.
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby Baron Greenback » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:44 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
valleys07 wrote:
Baron Greenback wrote:What's the longest run of not playing at the Cattery REB?


Would have thought sides like Collingwood, Essendon and Carlton wouldnt have made the trip down to skilled in a few years.


Can't recall the last Carlton or Essendon game. Last Collingwood match was in 99 and that was an absolute shocker between two struggling teams.

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Will this redevelopment perhaps allow for those teams to play there more often?
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby Booney » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:50 am

beef wrote:Adelaide play only 1 finalist from this year in the first 8 weeks, thats Hawthorn (at Home). Another "soft" draw?


Certainly is with that start, another soft draw, only play one top 4 team from 2012 twice.
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby Baron Greenback » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:18 am

This is how I rate the draw from easiest to hardest:
1. Carlton
2. Richmond
3. Brisbane
4. Gold Coast
5. Melbourne
6. Essendon
7. Port Adelaide
8. St Kilda
9. Adelaide
10. GWS
11. Sydney
12. Fremantle
13. Collingwood
14. Western Bulldogs
15. Hawthorn
16. Geelong
17. North Melbourne
18. West Coast
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby stun72 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:14 pm

The AFL Fixture for the coming year always provides plenty of areas for debate and despair or happiness for the clubs depending on what draw they have been given.
But at the end of the day the despair is nothing compared to that felt if your team loses the Grand Final & one of the greatest players in the AFL (Buddy) misses everything in the last quarter of a great AFL Grand Final.
In the end if your team is good enough it will make the Finals and then it's a case of see what happens.
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:37 pm

stun72 wrote:The AFL Fixture for the coming year always provides plenty of areas for debate and despair or happiness for the clubs depending on what draw they have been given.
But at the end of the day the despair is nothing compared to that felt if your team loses the Grand Final & one of the greatest players in the AFL (Buddy) misses everything in the last quarter of a great AFL Grand Final.
In the end if your team is good enough it will make the Finals and then it's a case of see what happens.

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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby Booney » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:15 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
Booney wrote:
Frosty wrote:Wouldn't have thought Saturday afternoon games were such a good idea for Port who struggle with crowd numbers. Now you have to compete against people who work, amateur footy, all other Saturday sports, etc.

On a personal note I'm happy cos Geelong are in town twice for the season so I get to go to 2 games.


I think Saturday afternoons are better than Sunday afternoons, personally. Junior footy is mostly Sundays in comps around town so Sunday games exclude parents and kids from coming to games, Saturdays just leaves the still active amateur players out of the crowd.

Very happy with our home game time slots.

Junior footy starts early on a Sunday morning and is often all over by 3.00 pm and amateur/country footy is playing from 12-5 in the afternoon, pretty much the same time as the Power would be playing. You also have the SANFL being played on a Saturday afternoon aswell.

I know that there's alot more people involved in amateur, country and SANFL footy (players, umpires, support staff/volunteers, supporters) than junior footy on a Sunday morning. With junior footy on a Sunday morning it gives people the option to go to an AFL game in the afternoon if they choose while people involved in amateur/country footy and SANFL (alot of Magpie people are Power people too) dont have that option as they already have commitments to playing, coaching, helping out at there local club.

I know blokes I play footy with that are Crows/Power supporters and also supporters of interstate clubs miss out on going to Saturday afternoon AFL games but do go to games on Sunday afternoon. I think it would be the same at every amateur/country league club.


Magpies will not play Saturday when the Power does. Some of the rest I agree with.
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby GWW » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:21 pm

stun72 wrote:The AFL Fixture for the coming year always provides plenty of areas for debate and despair or happiness for the clubs depending on what draw they have been given.
But at the end of the day the despair is nothing compared to that felt if your team loses the Grand Final & one of the greatest players in the AFL (Buddy) misses everything in the last quarter of a great AFL Grand Final.
In the end if your team is good enough it will make the Finals and then it's a case of see what happens.


The AFL FIXture is just one more inequity in the AFL system that assists certain clubs to make the finals and grand finals, whilst other clubs not receiving similar favourable treatment finish lower down the ladder, ie. the draw doesn't by itself influence ladder positions, but it adds to a combination of other factors that do.
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby Tassie Blues » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:38 pm

Booney wrote:
beef wrote:Adelaide play only 1 finalist from this year in the first 8 weeks, thats Hawthorn (at Home). Another "soft" draw?


Certainly is with that start, another soft draw, only play one top 4 team from 2012 twice.


Well when you’re in the top 4 you can’t play yourself twice can you. Think you will find we don’t play any of the other top 4 teams twice.

Maybe if Collingwood and Hawthorn didn’t have to play each other twice (for the $$$) it might let other clubs have a double up against them. Clearly the fixture is more about $$ and TV than an even competition.

People bang on about Adelaide’s soft draw this year but forget that we finished 14th in 2011 so didn’t deserve to play the top teams twice. Port finish 14th this year and guess what they play GC and GWS twice in 2013 but haven’t heard many Port supporters talking about their soft draw next year.
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby Squids » Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:46 am

Soft draws are a double edged sword. Sure you might get more wins but you will get worse draft picks that you may really need.
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby valleys07 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:51 am

Tassie Blues wrote:
Booney wrote:
beef wrote:Adelaide play only 1 finalist from this year in the first 8 weeks, thats Hawthorn (at Home). Another "soft" draw?


Certainly is with that start, another soft draw, only play one top 4 team from 2012 twice.


Well when you’re in the top 4 you can’t play yourself twice can you. Think you will find we don’t play any of the other top 4 teams twice.

Maybe if Collingwood and Hawthorn didn’t have to play each other twice (for the $$$) it might let other clubs have a double up against them. Clearly the fixture is more about $$ and TV than an even competition.

People bang on about Adelaide’s soft draw this year but forget that we finished 14th in 2011 so didn’t deserve to play the top teams twice. Port finish 14th this year and guess what they play GC and GWS twice in 2013 but haven’t heard many Port supporters talking about their soft draw next year.


No draw is soft when your rubbish.
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby daysofourlives » Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:32 am

Tassie Blues wrote:
Booney wrote:
beef wrote:Adelaide play only 1 finalist from this year in the first 8 weeks, thats Hawthorn (at Home). Another "soft" draw?


Certainly is with that start, another soft draw, only play one top 4 team from 2012 twice.


Well when you’re in the top 4 you can’t play yourself twice can you. Think you will find we don’t play any of the other top 4 teams twice.

Maybe if Collingwood and Hawthorn didn’t have to play each other twice (for the $$$) it might let other clubs have a double up against them. Clearly the fixture is more about $$ and TV than an even competition.

People bang on about Adelaide’s soft draw this year but forget that we finished 14th in 2011 so didn’t deserve to play the top teams twice. Port finish 14th this year and guess what they play GC and GWS twice in 2013 but haven’t heard many Port supporters talking about their soft draw next year.


I havnt heard anyone complaining about GWS and their soft draw ;)
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby Tassie Blues » Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:44 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
Tassie Blues wrote:
Booney wrote:
beef wrote:Adelaide play only 1 finalist from this year in the first 8 weeks, thats Hawthorn (at Home). Another "soft" draw?


Certainly is with that start, another soft draw, only play one top 4 team from 2012 twice.


Well when you’re in the top 4 you can’t play yourself twice can you. Think you will find we don’t play any of the other top 4 teams twice.

Maybe if Collingwood and Hawthorn didn’t have to play each other twice (for the $$$) it might let other clubs have a double up against them. Clearly the fixture is more about $$ and TV than an even competition.

People bang on about Adelaide’s soft draw this year but forget that we finished 14th in 2011 so didn’t deserve to play the top teams twice. Port finish 14th this year and guess what they play GC and GWS twice in 2013 but haven’t heard many Port supporters talking about their soft draw next year.


I havnt heard anyone complaining about GWS and their soft draw ;)


i havent heard anyone talking about GWS until Izzy left and Tippett might be going there
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby MatteeG » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:11 am

The 'blockbuster' 2 games a year v other sides (Coll/Carl, Haw/Geel, Showdown, Derby etc) is absolute rubbish.

Easiest scenario:

1) Scrap the NAB crap.
2) 25/26 round season- Play each team once up til rd 17. Everyone has a bye, then the last 8/9 games against whoever (but play them at alternate venue you played em in the first half).
3) Next season- same deal, but last 8/9 rounds play 8/9 other sides you did not play twice the year before..

"Blockbusters" etc will take care of themselves depending on ladder spots at the time. For those 'set in stone' games (Anzac day, Dreamtime etc etc), simply schedule into the first 17 games of the season.
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:41 pm

MatteeG wrote:The 'blockbuster' 2 games a year v other sides (Coll/Carl, Haw/Geel, Showdown, Derby etc) is absolute rubbish.

Easiest scenario:

1) Scrap the NAB crap.
2) 25/26 round season- Play each team once up til rd 17. Everyone has a bye, then the last 8/9 games against whoever (but play them at alternate venue you played em in the first half).
3) Next season- same deal, but last 8/9 rounds play 8/9 other sides you did not play twice the year before..

"Blockbusters" etc will take care of themselves depending on ladder spots at the time. For those 'set in stone' games (Anzac day, Dreamtime etc etc), simply schedule into the first 17 games of the season.


This is far too sensible a suggestion to be contemplated by the Vladmocracy.

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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/12)

Postby Baron Greenback » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:58 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
MatteeG wrote:The 'blockbuster' 2 games a year v other sides (Coll/Carl, Haw/Geel, Showdown, Derby etc) is absolute rubbish.

Easiest scenario:

1) Scrap the NAB crap.
2) 25/26 round season- Play each team once up til rd 17. Everyone has a bye, then the last 8/9 games against whoever (but play them at alternate venue you played em in the first half).
3) Next season- same deal, but last 8/9 rounds play 8/9 other sides you did not play twice the year before..

"Blockbusters" etc will take care of themselves depending on ladder spots at the time. For those 'set in stone' games (Anzac day, Dreamtime etc etc), simply schedule into the first 17 games of the season.


This is far too sensible a suggestion to be contemplated by the Vladmocracy.

regards,

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I wouldn't mind going back to just a 17 round season.
The only real fair way to do it.
But too much cash to be had from TV rights I suppose.
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Re: 2013 AFL fixture - (to be released morning of Wed 31/10/

Postby GWW » Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:18 pm

I wonder when the last time was that the reigning premier played against bottom, and second to bottom, in the first 2 rounds of the following season?
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