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Re: Rodney Eade to quit Bulldogs

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:34 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
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Bag The Points wrote:Primus got "reasonable" results, but I have a very good feeling about Bickley's approach. I wouldn't call him the Messiah (actually only one man in history should have that title anyway).

Agreed. Blight is the only one worthy.


Since you mentioned Blight......

If you're interested to know about non-premiership coaches getting gigs at new clubs and winning a flag, Blight is the last one to do it, and he did get into 4 GFs before his appointment to the Crows.

Stats in recent years suggest that premiership coaches have either done it before at other clubs (Malthouse, Matthews) or they are coaches appointed to a senior role for the first time (Thompson, Clarkson, Roos, Worsfold etc).

This may not help Eade's cause given he's had 2 stints over many years and made 1 GF.


Is Adelaides next coach likely to be a premiership coach? i very much doubt it so what would be wrong with Eade for 3-4 years and by then Bickley or Goodwin will be ready. I think to much emphasis is placed on wether the guy can be a premiership coach when in reality a guy can perform a role to get you to the stage where you can challenge fpr a premiership


I can see in future coaches being put into 'categories'. Some no good, some developers, some hardeners, some finishers. Bailey is a developer but wont coach a premiership, Eade is a hardener and will struggle to coach a premiership, but they still has a role to play in footy these days. So DOOL, I completely agree with what you're saying with Eade.

The Crows aren't ready for a premiership in the next three years, so you can develop the list by building up to it by getting them a good grounding and Eade can do that as an interim solution to the bigger picture. I think it'd be a good investment. Give him 3 years and get them ultra competitive, then get a coach to finish the long term project.
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Re: Rodney Eade to quit Bulldogs

Postby Q. » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:55 pm

gadj1976 wrote:The Crows aren't ready for a premiership in the next three years, so you can develop the list by building up to it by getting them a good grounding and Eade can do that as an interim solution to the bigger picture. I think it'd be a good investment. Give him 3 years and get them ultra competitive, then get a coach to finish the long term project.


Disagree. Why not then give the likes of Sanderson or Neeld 3+ years to develop the list and familiarise the players with tactics that will seriously tilt at a premiership in years 4-6.

I single out Neeld and Sanderson as both have been premiership assistant coaches (and played pivotal roles in that success).
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Re: Rodney Eade to quit Bulldogs

Postby tigerpie » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:06 pm

neeld could be a good option as he is the midfield coach at a premiership club....crows have a young midfield and one that does have a pretty big future with jacobs, sloane and mackay (when fit) and dangerfield, i think thats where the game is set up. crows will want to be serious finals contenders next year and i think they could go pretty deep next year barring injuries to key players. the key to the new coach will be who he chooses as assistants.
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Re: Rodney Eade to quit Bulldogs

Postby hottie » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:17 pm

Dont think Eade would be able to cope coaching Adelaide as a senior coach,too much pressure from the media here and wouldnt take him long to lose the plot.Might be ok as an assistant to Bickley,who i think already has the job.
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Re: Rodney Eade to quit Bulldogs

Postby sapaul » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:21 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Fair dinkum Eade is the most overrated coach going around. It was Barassi who turned Sydney around


Bingo. Pass on Eade thanks. Craig > Eade.

hottie wrote:Dont think Eade would be able to cope coaching Adelaide as a senior coach,too much pressure from the media here and wouldnt take him long to lose the plot.


Might even lose his hair. Oh hang on.... :lol:

As for the Bulldogs. Leon Cameron almost a certainty.
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Re: Rodney Eade to quit Bulldogs

Postby Brodlach » Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:09 am

Mentioned this morning that Eade may have changed his mind and wont coach the last three games.
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Re: Rodney Eade to quit Bulldogs

Postby JK » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:07 am

Quichey wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:The Crows aren't ready for a premiership in the next three years, so you can develop the list by building up to it by getting them a good grounding and Eade can do that as an interim solution to the bigger picture. I think it'd be a good investment. Give him 3 years and get them ultra competitive, then get a coach to finish the long term project.


Disagree. Why not then give the likes of Sanderson or Neeld 3+ years to develop the list and familiarise the players with tactics that will seriously tilt at a premiership in years 4-6.

I single out Neeld and Sanderson as both have been premiership assistant coaches (and played pivotal roles in that success).


The other thing with blokes like those that you've mentioned, is that they may well be decent developers AND finishers? (or conversely they might be duds) The point is noone knows.

So if you opt for a developing type coach then you would always have an eye to replacing him at the end of a contracted term, whereas these unknowns might have the qualities to develop a group and then also get them up in the finals.

A lot of people don't like untried coaches, but all the great coaches were untried at one point in time and those that have been in charge of multiple clubs without success, rarely end up achieving it elsewhere (as mentioned previously).
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Re: Rodney Eade to quit Bulldogs

Postby Pag » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:09 am

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Pag wrote:Bickley struggles to string sentences together in press conferences, not sure how he'll go coaching an AFL club full-time.

Everyone is potting Eade, but he turned Sydney around in a short period of time and took them to a GF (losing to the most dominant club of the 90s), and took the Bulldogs from absolute crap to three prelims in a row. No flags, but a bounce of a ball or a little bit of luck his way and he very well could have. Not sure how many other available coaches out there have a record of taking teams from the bottom up to the top end of the ladder like he has.

The Crows should be doing everything they can to get him, IMO.


Fair dinkum Eade is the most overrated coach going around. It was Barrassi who turned Sydney around and Eade filled Wallace's shoes at the Bulldogs so hardly big ones to fill there. All these years coaching and ONE Grand Final to show for it and you want him at West Lakes?

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I don't particularly care whether he ends up at West Lakes or not, I couldn't give a rats about the Crows, I just think some people are being really quick to dismiss him and talk him down, almost putting him in the Matthew Knights category.
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Re: Rodney Eade to quit Bulldogs

Postby saintal » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:15 pm

Brodlach wrote:Mentioned this morning that Eade may have changed his mind and wont coach the last three games.


Correct. Paul Williams to take over.

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Re: Rodney Eade to quit Bulldogs

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:03 pm

Pag wrote:I don't particularly care whether he ends up at West Lakes or not, I couldn't give a rats about the Crows, I just think some people are being really quick to dismiss him and talk him down, almost putting him in the Matthew Knights category.



Me either, I just think some people are being really quick to promote him and talk him up, almost putting him in the Paul Roos category.

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Re: Rodney Eade to quit Bulldogs

Postby valleys07 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:07 pm

saintal wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Mentioned this morning that Eade may have changed his mind and wont coach the last three games.


Correct. Paul Williams to take over.

More joy for Port this week.


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Re: Rodney Eade to quit Bulldogs

Postby Booney » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:45 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Pag wrote:I don't particularly care whether he ends up at West Lakes or not, I couldn't give a rats about the Crows, I just think some people are being really quick to dismiss him and talk him down, almost putting him in the Matthew Knights category.



Me either, I just think some people are being really quick to promote him and talk him up, almost putting him in the Paul Roos category.

regards,

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Well, one could mount an argument that Eade set things up for Roos, like one could with Shaw and Blight.

I do however agree, Eade is somewhat over rated but many modern day coaches believe he is a very good tactical coach.

You dont make 4 Prelims ( one with Sydney and three with the Dogs ) along with one GF without having some good skills.
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Re: Rodney Eade to quit Bulldogs

Postby Rik E Boy » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:29 am

Booney wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
Pag wrote:I don't particularly care whether he ends up at West Lakes or not, I couldn't give a rats about the Crows, I just think some people are being really quick to dismiss him and talk him down, almost putting him in the Matthew Knights category.



Me either, I just think some people are being really quick to promote him and talk him up, almost putting him in the Paul Roos category.

regards,

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Well, one could mount an argument that Eade set things up for Roos, like one could with Shaw and Blight.

I do however agree, Eade is somewhat over rated but many modern day coaches believe he is a very good tactical coach.

You dont make 4 Prelims ( one with Sydney and three with the Dogs ) along with one GF without having some good skills.



Yeah not saying he can't coach, just that he is overrated. FWIW I reckon he was prepared to start looking at the younger blokes this year a bit more and that might have been to his short term disadvantage. Then again I'm not exactly sure how much say the coach has in team selection at any particular footy club.

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