Trades for 2011 Season

[Browny25]

There has been some talk of trading Van Berlo, but isnt he toughted to be the next captain of the club?

[Booney]

There has been some talk of trading Van Berlo, but isnt he toughted to be the next captain of the club?

Well over rated IMO and might not be in your best 22, let alone skipper.

[Gingernuts]

There has been some talk of trading Van Berlo, but isnt he toughted to be the next captain of the club?

Well over rated IMO and might not be in your best 22, let alone skipper.

Agreed - I have been a fan of his but he just hasn't come on in the last couple of years. The skipper question is a big one at the moment, the last couple of weeks have been a perfect time for someone to put their hand up, but no one has stepped up to the plate. Not even close.

[MW]

I think the time is right for Adelaide to pursue a big trade a la Darren Jarman in 1996.

The current squad has plenty of potential talent, but the last couple of weeks have shown there will be a severe lack of senior leadership next year to help them realise it.

They may have to bite the bullet and sacrifice a couple of the talented youngsters on the trade table to secure an established talent with around 200 games under the belt. Preferably a midfielder.

i did hear that Chris Knights wants to return to Victoria.. any ideas to what he would be worth?

I'd love to see Ryan Griffin at the crows!

very little, in a normal draft he might get a 3rd round pick.

Join the queue for griffin.

Knights only worth a 3rd round pick? He is late 1st, early 2nd IMO

[the milky bar kid]

Power where to start? Motlop/Ebert/Schulz can all play, no doubt, but they are sporadic, and have too many days of doing not enough.

Boak/Cassisi/Gray/Thomas are the core midfield- Boak and Gray have the ability to become elite, but not yet, and probably not next year... Leaves a lot of pressure on Kane, who McDermott said at the start of the year would struggle to make the side

Brogan carries the ruck, and I can't see the Hoff being the regular #2- he's gotta be FF/CHF when he plays...

Carlisle is the only real back of note, and that is probably the biggest area they lack, unless the Chad returns fit, and plays CHB.

Too many passengers, but I hope that they get something for Krakeour, who for me is the guy who's going GC...

Ok then. Ebert as a small man all too often found himself as the at home forward with the style we played in recent weeks changing he is now again the small forward playing at the feet of Schulz and Westhoff, this suiots him much more. Even though he played almost as a marking forward against Adelaide ( beating Stevens hands down in the air and on the ground ) he relishes being the smaller forward / second/third target and the best of him I think is yet to come. Schulz also is benefiting from the more direct style and can be, IMO, a 70-80 goal forward. Motlop, for those who only see him on the TV to be critical is poor IMO and although he does have some negatives about his game, those who see him regularly live at the ground know how hard he works off the ball. All too often his highlights package shows the bad stuff he does ( body language etc ) but rarely highlights the way he chases to the wing and centre of the ground. When he does this he doesn't work back hard enough, perhaps a sign of fitness not endeavour. These four with Gray as the bit player gives us a solid forward half nucleus.Daniel Stewart shows promise,but as always big men take time to mature. Stewart and Trengove both need to stand tall in the forward half and the ruck in the next 18 months to show they can fill the void when Brogan leaves.

Boak, Gray, Pearce, Cassisi, Salopek and Thomas are enough to build a mid-field around with Harlett ( body willing ) and Broadbent to play a role from time to time.

You didn't mention Chaplin when talking about our back half, why not? He is our back-half general and I think the teaming of him and Carlile will serve us well for years to come. Salter is proving to be a valuable backman since being recast and along with Krakouer, Hartlett,Broadbent and Logan build a back six pretty well.

i think that you'll find that Trengove over the next two years will develop & ultimately become our CHB. Leaving Chaplin to play a roaming role. See our back formation against Hawthorn. This should be a very strong backbone to our defence.
However the ruck situation is the problem, we really need someone to develp into a real ruckman & not rely on guys like Trengove to do the job based purely on their competitive nature.

[nuggety goodness]

I think the time is right for Adelaide to pursue a big trade a la Darren Jarman in 1996.

The current squad has plenty of potential talent, but the last couple of weeks have shown there will be a severe lack of senior leadership next year to help them realise it.

They may have to bite the bullet and sacrifice a couple of the talented youngsters on the trade table to secure an established talent with around 200 games under the belt. Preferably a midfielder.

i did hear that Chris Knights wants to return to Victoria.. any ideas to what he would be worth?

I'd love to see Ryan Griffin at the crows!

very little, in a normal draft he might get a 3rd round pick.

Join the queue for griffin.

Knights only worth a 3rd round pick? He is late 1st, early 2nd IMO

is Knights victorian?

how about a straight swap for Tim Callan. he'd add some hardness to the Cows midfield and then Knighter could free up higgins to play more in the guts..

[nuggety goodness]

Power where to start? Motlop/Ebert/Schulz can all play, no doubt, but they are sporadic, and have too many days of doing not enough.

Boak/Cassisi/Gray/Thomas are the core midfield- Boak and Gray have the ability to become elite, but not yet, and probably not next year... Leaves a lot of pressure on Kane, who McDermott said at the start of the year would struggle to make the side

Brogan carries the ruck, and I can't see the Hoff being the regular #2- he's gotta be FF/CHF when he plays...

Carlisle is the only real back of note, and that is probably the biggest area they lack, unless the Chad returns fit, and plays CHB.

Too many passengers, but I hope that they get something for Krakeour, who for me is the guy who's going GC...

Ok then. Ebert as a small man all too often found himself as the at home forward with the style we played in recent weeks changing he is now again the small forward playing at the feet of Schulz and Westhoff, this suiots him much more. Even though he played almost as a marking forward against Adelaide ( beating Stevens hands down in the air and on the ground ) he relishes being the smaller forward / second/third target and the best of him I think is yet to come. Schulz also is benefiting from the more direct style and can be, IMO, a 70-80 goal forward. Motlop, for those who only see him on the TV to be critical is poor IMO and although he does have some negatives about his game, those who see him regularly live at the ground know how hard he works off the ball. All too often his highlights package shows the bad stuff he does ( body language etc ) but rarely highlights the way he chases to the wing and centre of the ground. When he does this he doesn't work back hard enough, perhaps a sign of fitness not endeavour. These four with Gray as the bit player gives us a solid forward half nucleus.Daniel Stewart shows promise,but as always big men take time to mature. Stewart and Trengove both need to stand tall in the forward half and the ruck in the next 18 months to show they can fill the void when Brogan leaves.

Boak, Gray, Pearce, Cassisi, Salopek and Thomas are enough to build a mid-field around with Harlett ( body willing ) and Broadbent to play a role from time to time.

You didn't mention Chaplin when talking about our back half, why not? He is our back-half general and I think the teaming of him and Carlile will serve us well for years to come. Salter is proving to be a valuable backman since being recast and along with Krakouer, Hartlett,Broadbent and Logan build a back six pretty well.

i think that you'll find that Trengove over the next two years will develop & ultimately become our CHB. Leaving Chaplin to play a roaming role. See our back formation against Hawthorn. This should be a very strong backbone to our defence.
However the ruck situation is the problem, we really need someone to develp into a real ruckman & not rely on guys like Trengove to do the job based purely on their competitive nature.

what happened to Lobbe? he looked ok in the few games i saw of him...

[westozfalcon]

I can envisage Quinten Lynch being traded out by West Coast.

He's a big unit and a booming kick. Probably worth a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick.

[JK]

Would be interesting to see the worth of picks this year ... A Player that would normally go late 3rd round in years of non-compromised draft could conceivably go 2nd round after GC have horded the best young talent.

Question, can the GC use any of their earlier picks to trump another club looking at a father-son selection?

[NFC]

is Knights victorian?

how about a straight swap for Tim Callan. he'd add some hardness to the Cows midfield and then Knighter could free up higgins to play more in the guts..

You can't be serious?

[Media Park]

On Chaplin- I forgot his name!

That's all!

[CoverKing]

As a richmond supporter, i think we need another midfielder or two to compliment our midfield of the future! Also i think we need another good half forward and CHF and CHB! I think one of the CHF or CHB will come from this draft, plus the last draft in Griffiths and Gourdis.

The half forward person could be Chris Knights! I would be happy if we gave a good pick for him, say our first round pick ( pick 8 or there abouts). He could be a real asset to our club and offer some more leadership to the side. He could also be around for our next premiership!

A coupld of midfielders that could be good for our club is a Daniel Kerr, maybe Cousins could get him across? He wouldnt cost that much due to his injury concerns, but a midfield with Cousins, Kerr, Martin, COtchin, Tuck, Foley, Deledio in it is bloody potent! WHat other midfielders could be added from other clubs that are potential trade baits? Well Salopek, but i wouldnt want him due to his long injury run (not as bad as Kerr's and not as good of player as him either).

But the ideal ones for me that i would love to see at our club is one of Brad Sewell or Jordan Lewis. Those two in our side would be ideal. Releases Martin, Cotchin and FOley more and our midfield would be one of the ebst in years to come then. They both would provide a great example to the younger players and the hardness would be invaluable!

[CoverKing]

On that note, i think Richmond is going to be a massive player in trade week this year! I cant wait for the trade period!

Is Chad Cornes a possibility to end up at Tiger land considering his playing relationship with Hardwick? He could fill that key post down back for a couple years and help bring on the kids. However due my pure hatred of him i hope he doesnt come to us, although i may come to like him in a Richmond guernsey!

[Rik E Boy]

On that note, i think Richmond is going to be a massive player in trade week this year! I cant wait for the trade period!

Is Chad Cornes a possibility to end up at Tiger land considering his playing relationship with Hardwick? He could fill that key post down back for a couple years and help bring on the kids. However due my pure hatred of him i hope he doesnt come to us, although i may come to like him in a Richmond guernsey!

Fair dinkum why would you want Chad. Can't get on the park anymore and doesn't play close enough.

regards,

REB

[CoverKing]

On that note, i think Richmond is going to be a massive player in trade week this year! I cant wait for the trade period!

Is Chad Cornes a possibility to end up at Tiger land considering his playing relationship with Hardwick? He could fill that key post down back for a couple years and help bring on the kids. However due my pure hatred of him i hope he doesnt come to us, although i may come to like him in a Richmond guernsey!

Fair dinkum why would you want Chad. Can't get on the park anymore and doesn't play close enough.

regards,

REB

I dont think i said i want him at our club but im just saying, is he chance?

[Media Park]

he may be wearing a Tiger guernsey next year, but not Richmond

[Sojourner]

Agree with the comment that the Crows should have a go at a high profile player in the trading week as they did with Darren Jarman. I think Adam Cooney would bring a lot to the Crows and would be an ideal candidate for the Captaincy position at the Crows.

[CK]

Agree with the comment that the Crows should have a go at a high profile player in the trading week as they did with Darren Jarman. I think Adam Cooney would bring a lot to the Crows and would be an ideal candidate for the Captaincy position at the Crows.

Cooney re-signed with the club for three years in May.

Someone floated the idea of Lindsay Thomas and a 2nd round pick for Chris Knights. I'd think if Adelaide were offered that, they would take it and run. Thomas is two years younger and has a fair degree of upside to him. Throw in a 2nd round pick and that would be a very attractive trade that I can't see the Kangaroos even considering.

Dean Cox sounds a big trade option, but his last two seasons have been pretty moderate by his standards, and there have been injury issues also. Even if he wanted to leave the club, I'm not sure that he would be the "marquee player" that some many think in a trade week. Certainly, his best is fantastic, but its a degree of a punt by a club. Having said that, West Coast need to put a couple of big names on the table to start regenerating. It really surprises me that, for the list they have, John Worsfold isn't under more pressure there. There are still a number of the premiership players there, but some have been hit hard with injury (Kerr, Cox), and some have had spectacular form declines (Andrew Embley). Considering all of that, however, West Coast still look major underachievers.

[JK]

Fair post CK ... You would think if Cox were up for grabs, the only clubs that would be interested would be those that believe they're in a premiership window and have the necessary cap space, maybe the Hawks or Bulldogs?

The clubs building their own young lists to be around the mark in a couple of seasons time (ie, Melb, Rich) probably wouldn't see the value (although the Tigers could possibly be an exception I guess).

[sound4]

Agree with the comment that the Crows should have a go at a high profile player in the trading week as they did with Darren Jarman. I think Adam Cooney would bring a lot to the Crows and would be an ideal candidate for the Captaincy position at the Crows.

Adam Cooney made it very very clear that he was not interested in returning to Adelaide in a press conference recently. I also doubt he would seek a trade or the bulldogs would trade him whilst their premiership window is still ajar.

For me, I believe Port need three things:

A ruckman
Port should target one of Carlton's ruckman (seem to be a lot of them there) and offer them a permanent rucking position with Brogan while the youngsters grow. Hamish McIntosh could also be the go (he was offered for bait last year I think?)

A gun forward
This would probably be the hardest thing for Port to get. May need to settle on say the Big Q Lynch for the time been. Just need a big target for the midfielders to kick at.

A speedy half back
A player who can break the lines and deliver directly into the forward line, a player similar to Krakouer at his best. There seems to be an abundance of these in the top four clubs so perhaps target one of those and bump up their pay.

I think the players Port can use as trade bait could include Salopek, Motlop, Krakouer, Logan, Davenport, C. Cornes, P Stewart, K. Cornes, Broadbent.

I am also of the opinion Krakouer has already signed with GC. He is looking very disinterested at the moment.