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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby RoosterMarty » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:40 pm

I am pretty shocked as I thought he would just get another "don't do it again" from the board.

Carlton won't make the finals next year.
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby locky801 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:42 pm

westozfalcon wrote:From that Herald Sun article I can't see that Fev has been unconditionally sacked. All that Carlton seem to have confirmed is that he is being offered for trade.

If Carlton can't do a trade does that mean he stays on with the Blues next year and all is forgiven?



From what I saw on the News thats pretty well spot on ;) but they are saying he has been sacked sop i cant work it out
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby Turbo » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:46 pm

RoosterMarty wrote:I am pretty shocked as I thought he would just get another "don't do it again" from the board.
Carlton won't make the finals next year.


Why is that???
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby magpie in the 80's » Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:54 pm

Herald Sun Quote

CARLTON may have no choice but to enter 2010 with Brendan Fevola on its list, with opposition clubs showing little or no interest in the controversial full-forward.

The Blues yesterday continued to hawk Fevola in preparation for next week's official AFL trade period, but they are discovering their problems with the controversial forward are scaring off rival clubs.

The Sydney Swans remain Fevola's best hope of a new home, as they have the most scope under the salary cap.

Despite being desperate to add a big forward to their list, the Western Bulldogs are not interested in Fevola.

But, the club is preparing to have him remain a Blue. Should that be the case, it is expected to issue him with another raft of disciplinary measures, which could include banning him from the opening batch of matches next season.

Fevola is contracted to earn more than $700,000 next season and the Blues will need to cover a hefty percentage of that figure if they manage to trade him to another club.
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby Interceptor » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:00 pm

Bit surprised at supposedly no interest from the Dogs.

Fevola's a better player than Hall and less crazy on the field.
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:08 pm

I'm stunned.

We've gone from needing a foil for Fev in the forward line, to needing a complete forward line. Our chances for top 4 next year are diminished, and our chances of a premiership in the next few years is now null and void.

It might mean that Kreuz plays forward with Cloke or Setanta. Either way, we're not going to set the world on fire next season, unless we get a ready made FF from somewhere in return for him.

Saying that, I'm glad the club had the balls to do something, it's just a shame it's going to come at a massive cost to the club, supporters and players.

If no-one wants him, what will happen then? I think Sydney will be front runners for him though.
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby rod_rooster » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:12 pm

Turbo wrote:
RoosterMarty wrote:I am pretty shocked as I thought he would just get another "don't do it again" from the board.
Carlton won't make the finals next year.


Why is that???


Take a 90 plus goal full forward out of a side that has very few other genuine forward options........ you work it out.
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby Hondo » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:21 pm

gadj1976 wrote:We've gone from needing a foil for Fev in the forward line, to needing a complete forward line. Our chances for top 4 next year are diminished, and our chances of a premiership in the next few years is now null and void.


I reckon you were being optimistic if you thought you had a chance of a premiership while Fev was still playing (ie, next 1-3 yrs)

I reckon the club feels it is still 5 years away when Fev would be gone anyway

Therefore, short term pain for long term gain maybe?
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby RHM 17 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:24 pm

Interceptor wrote:Bit surprised at supposedly no interest from the Dogs.

Fevola's a better player than Hall and less crazy on the field.





bulldogs couldnt afford fevolas $700,000+ contract he is contracted so he has to be paid that amount wherever he goes.
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby RHM 17 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:26 pm

RoosterMarty wrote:I am pretty shocked as I thought he would just get another "don't do it again" from the board.

Carlton won't make the finals next year.




how many don't do it agains do you give him.
no certainty to play finals if he stayed at carlton
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:27 pm

hondo71 wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:We've gone from needing a foil for Fev in the forward line, to needing a complete forward line. Our chances for top 4 next year are diminished, and our chances of a premiership in the next few years is now null and void.


I reckon you were being optimistic if you thought you had a chance of a premiership while Fev was still playing (ie, next 1-3 yrs)

I reckon the club feels it is still 5 years away when Fev would be gone anyway

Therefore, short term pain for long term gain maybe?


We had some chance Hondo - if things fell our way. That becomes slimmer by the day without him.

But I reckon he could play for at least 5 years easy!
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby Jimmy_041 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:30 pm

hondo71 wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:Collingwood might have some cap space?


And could do with a key forward that's for sure


We''ll swap Leo Davis for him
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby Psyber » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:31 pm

locky801 wrote:
westozfalcon wrote:From that Herald Sun article I can't see that Fev has been unconditionally sacked. All that Carlton seem to have confirmed is that he is being offered for trade.
If Carlton can't do a trade does that mean he stays on with the Blues next year and all is forgiven?
From what I saw on the News thats pretty well spot on ;) but they are saying he has been sacked sop i cant work it out
It looks like Carlton are being sensible in keeping their options open to maximise their chances of a good outcome..
After all if they sack him outright someone else can pick him up, and depending on the terms of his contract Carlton may still have to pay him.

If they find someone wants him enough to make them a good trade, and pay all or most of his contracted salary, problem gone!
If they can't get that good a trade they can still decide to take the best on offer and cut their losses.
Or, if no one offers a good enough trade for that choice, they still have him on contract, and can retain control.
Then they can either pay him and play him in the reserves and hope he learns something, or see if they can get him to contract to be "dry" for a season and redeem himself.
The next season they can look again at whether to offer to trade him or not, or whether he has matured at all.
Finally, if none of that comes off, they can still choose to cut him loose a year down the track.
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby Pag » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:40 pm

I still think it's a bluff from Carlton, another attempt to try to help Fev see how serious his problems are.

I think Kernahan, being a key forward himself, would know how important Fevola is to that side competing for a flag. Even though they're saying he's out there on the trade table, I'd be very surprised if Carlton accept any offer, and I'll have my money on him still being a Blue next year. He's just too important, on-field, for them to lose.
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:56 pm

Pag wrote:I still think it's a bluff from Carlton, another attempt to try to help Fev see how serious his problems are.

I think Kernahan, being a key forward himself, would know how important Fevola is to that side competing for a flag. Even though they're saying he's out there on the trade table, I'd be very surprised if Carlton accept any offer, and I'll have my money on him still being a Blue next year. He's just too important, on-field, for them to lose.


Having just carefully read the wording, it certainly sounds like he's not been "sacked", more that he's been put up for trade. Really we'd be stupid to agree to terms with another club and then have to foot the bill of his salary.
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby stan » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:08 pm

Psyber wrote:
locky801 wrote:
westozfalcon wrote:From that Herald Sun article I can't see that Fev has been unconditionally sacked. All that Carlton seem to have confirmed is that he is being offered for trade.
If Carlton can't do a trade does that mean he stays on with the Blues next year and all is forgiven?
From what I saw on the News thats pretty well spot on ;) but they are saying he has been sacked sop i cant work it out
It looks like Carlton are being sensible in keeping their options open to maximise their chances of a good outcome..
After all if they sack him outright someone else can pick him up, and depending on the terms of his contract Carlton may still have to pay him.

If they find someone wants him enough to make them a good trade, and pay all or most of his contracted salary, problem gone!
If they can't get that good a trade they can still decide to take the best on offer and cut their losses.
Or, if no one offers a good enough trade for that choice, they still have him on contract, and can retain control.
Then they can either pay him and play him in the reserves and hope he learns something, or see if they can get him to contract to be "dry" for a season and redeem himself.
The next season they can look again at whether to offer to trade him or not, or whether he has matured at all.
Finally, if none of that comes off, they can still choose to cut him loose a year down the track.


I agree with psyber here. The trade price that Carlton will ask for will be hefty indeed. And heck if a club wants him bad enough then Carlton win, if not they can do as they please because they have not truely "sacked" him.
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby bazza1 » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:34 pm

Paul Roos has come and said that Sydney isnt going to waste Carltons time cos he wants to keep the first round pick for a young fella.
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby spell_check » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:13 pm

I think it's a shame that he is being put up for trade for providing the highlight of the year.
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby Turbo » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:14 pm

rod_rooster wrote:
Turbo wrote:
RoosterMarty wrote:I am pretty shocked as I thought he would just get another "don't do it again" from the board.
Carlton won't make the fials next year.


Why is that???


Take a 90 plus goal full forward out of a side that has very few other genuine forward options........ you work it out.


I reckon you don't need a 90 plus goal kicker to be successful. We've had that and haven't been successful.
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Re: Fevola Sacked

Postby bayman » Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:59 pm

can someone tell me why anyone at the table (carltons) including the wife say ''fev you've had enough go home & sleep it off''....

or the ch 9 crew when they saw him in the state he was in say the samething.... & get someone else to do it which they did later :roll:

why did the crown keep serving him when he'd had enough ?

does the afl have a 'duty of care' in this as it was their show ?


to me surely someone should have done something before it got to that stage, lets face it how many of those rads adverts do we hear ?
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