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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby Booney » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:34 pm

From Adelaide V Collingwood

Booney wrote:I think Adelaide have one of the better forward halfs going around, but Presti will smother Tippett, OBrien will shadow Porplyzia and Maxwell will once again find himself the extra man up*.

For Adelaide to win they need to make Maxwell accountable and negate the influence of Didak, Swan and Pendelbury.

I'm looking forward to this one as Collingwood like coming over here, 'Pies by under 15.


Will Trent Hentschel be offered another contract?

Booney wrote:Should he be offered another contract? Yes.

Will he be offered another contract? No.

His knee may have come up well but the rest of his body has shown 2 years out of AFL football and the training requirements that go with it are too much for him to handle.Horrible injury and sad if he is lost to the game.

With Burton missing a year and getting back towards the end of 09,Porplyzia looking to be hampered by regular injuries (the shoulder re-con may help that,may) can Adelaide afford to keep Hentschel on the list? I dont think so.This draft is very important to get some quality youth before the GC and Western Sydney sides come in and I dont think clubs can afford to carry blokes who at best may only play a handful of games.


Brad Moran???

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finn wrote:he's a natural forward - leads well - i reckon adelaide are trying to pump the 'feel' of the game into him as he seems reactive rather than active in reading the play. for some players this takes longer than others - eg tippett
personally, i'd persevere with him at least until end of 2010 as quick 200cm players don't exactly grow on trees. his game against norwood was very good.


Exactly, Moran didn't grow up playing the game, so his actions and decisions aren't instinctive, atleast not yet.


1 : How long does this take? ( Factoring in the "old dog new tricks" theory )

2 : Can Adelaide afford to wait that long?

IMO he would be ideally suited to being the third ruckman on a list, not in the first picked but he does add depth, no doubt.
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby Booney » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:35 pm

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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby Footy Smart » Mon Aug 24, 2009 2:48 pm

sh*t 3 posts....... nearly fell off my chair
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby catchit » Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:57 pm

Booney wrote:This McKay sounds like a real gun. Especially against the quality opposition he faced on Saturday, at one stage a WCE player almost got near him. They were a tight checking lot those Eagles were.


fair call.. got alot to do with being a very inexperienced team... nothing to do with not liking our coach ;)
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:35 pm

Footy Smart wrote:sh*t 3 posts....... nearly fell off my chair


Yeah but you said he never said anything good about Adelaide and quite clearly he has.

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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby NFC » Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:39 pm

Booney wrote:This McKay sounds like a real gun. Especially against the quality opposition he faced on Saturday, at one stage a WCE player almost got near him. They were a tight checking lot those Eagles were.

LOL what an incredibly stupid post.

So he's never played a good game against quality opposition? What about his 30 touch, 8 marks, 6 tackles, 1 goal game against Brisbane at the Gabba when no one else showed up? Or his 26 touches in the following weeks against Carlton and Hawthorn?

You so wish you had him.
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby hearts on fire » Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:48 pm

Brisbane a good side? they just beat a hopeless Port.
Carlton a good side? getting there, but not a good side yet.
Hawthorn a good side? they are sitting equal 9th!

don't think any of these sides are to be classed as good!

Good sides:
St.Kilda
Geelong
Collingwood
Western Bulldogs

rest an even playing field.
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby NFC » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:00 am

hearts on fire wrote:Brisbane a good side? they just beat a hopeless Port.
Carlton a good side? getting there, but not a good side yet.
Hawthorn a good side? they are sitting equal 9th!

don't think any of these sides are to be classed as good!

Good sides:
St.Kilda
Geelong
Collingwood
Western Bulldogs

rest an even playing field.

Collingwood 17 dis, Saints 17, WB 23, Geelong 17 2 goals.

Not bad for someone who was 20.

I love it how we can only look at his performances against the elite sides and everything else means stuff all. :lol:

This is comedy at its finest.

It's not how much of the ball they win, it's the quality, effectiveness and result of the disposals. Mackay is all class.
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby Farmy » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:05 am

I agree Drummond, there is some very clear jealousy here in this thread. Mackay envy. "Oh I wish we had a 20 year old player with such great disposal, leg speed, decision making, and the ability to play outside and inside getting his own ball boo hoo, all we have is outside hff"
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby RoosterMarty » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:37 am

Well they do have the clearly superior Danyle Pearce in their team. :lol:
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby Booney » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:55 am

You can have both of them if you want? :lol:















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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby Booney » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:56 am

Farmy wrote:I agree Drummond, there is some very clear jealousy here in this thread. Mackay envy. "Oh I wish we had a 20 year old player with such great disposal, leg speed, decision making, and the ability to play outside and inside getting his own ball boo hoo, all we have is outside hff"


Not the same at this point in time, but have you seen much of Hamish Hartlett?
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby Psyber » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:00 am

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Farmy wrote:I agree Drummond, there is some very clear jealousy here in this thread. Mackay envy. "Oh I wish we had a 20 year old player with such great disposal, leg speed, decision making, and the ability to play outside and inside getting his own ball boo hoo, all we have is outside hff"
Not the same at this point in time, but have you seen much of Hamish Hartlett?

A bit. Promising player, but the coach will drum that out of him in a season or two... ;)
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby Booney » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:23 am

Which coach? ;)
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby JK » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:17 am

Booney wrote:
Farmy wrote:I agree Drummond, there is some very clear jealousy here in this thread. Mackay envy. "Oh I wish we had a 20 year old player with such great disposal, leg speed, decision making, and the ability to play outside and inside getting his own ball boo hoo, all we have is outside hff"


Not the same at this point in time, but have you seen much of Hamish Hartlett?


Needs to work on his kicking, but has the goods ... Will be a very good long term player, as will Mackay.
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby FD88 » Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:07 am

Booney wrote:This McKay sounds like a real gun. Especially against the quality opposition he faced on Saturday, at one stage a WCE player almost got near him. They were a tight checking lot those Eagles were.


Let us map the situation out here so that everyone is clear on what is going on.

- You show up here because you are a Port Adelaide supporter and you are keen to slip as many snide little snipes in as you can.

- You'll stop at nothing to run with imaginary criticisms of any player the crows have coming through because lets face it, your own club's list is in as dire a state as it has ever been and it hurts you inside to see magnificent young players like Mackay running around for the arch rival. You glance through the Alberton gates to spy the best of your club's kit: a sluggish, elderly carthorse named Warren Tredwell and a mantis-like younger forward Justin Westinghouse. Oh, and to directly combat Mackay? A pair of skis at the top of a hill with Danyle Pearce attached to them.

- Looking at the bigger picture you can see something special brewing at Adelaide, what with enormously talented key position players (guys who aren't Westhoff), genuinely classy midfielders and a rock solid, dynamic defensive unit all falling into place. The fear running through you right now is building steadily and you struggle to live with the burden from day to day, with the snide comments providing minor but in the grand scheme of things, hollow relief. Why? Because your poor judgment is fighting an uphill battle to stifle the screaming voice of the better alter ego, who is telling you that Adelaide showdown victories so one-sided that a Port Adelaide supporter would do well not to assume the foetal position for months afterwards, and a period of genuine, powerful Crows premiership contention, both edge closer by the day.

- Unbiased fact: Mackay >>>> football itself.

That is all from the FD88 situation explanation station for tonight. Thanks for reading Mr Boonburger.

Note: Tongue firmly in cheek of course. :P
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby Booney » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:58 am

:lol:

Some of your observations are correct. Not all my sorties into this forum are with baited hook in hand and I pride myself on being able to be analytical and constructive in many of my comments about the Crows. To use this thread as an example for your side of the argument exclusively would be narrow minded in the extreme.

I rate Adelaide very highly and agree that the next 3 or 4 years could be very productive for them, however the love displyed to McKay in this thread has been almost sickening. I see he has a very bright future and expect him to be a top line player, but many 20 ( if thats how old he is ) year olds get weighed down by expectations and never reach the heights many judges expect from them.

I generally sleep well at night as I feel the coach at Adelaide has built a very rigid and extremely well drilled unit and I think the last 2 weeks in September often call for players and coaches to adapt to many different siuations that they rarely encounter in the Minor round *Insert 2008 GF Hawks tactics V Geelong here * and I am not so sure Captain Snooze, oops, I mean Neil Craig has the "feel" for such situations.

Hey, I may be proved wrong one day, but it wouldn't be the first time.

:lol: :lol:

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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby CoverKing » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:45 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:
Booney wrote:
Farmy wrote:I agree Drummond, there is some very clear jealousy here in this thread. Mackay envy. "Oh I wish we had a 20 year old player with such great disposal, leg speed, decision making, and the ability to play outside and inside getting his own ball boo hoo, all we have is outside hff"


Not the same at this point in time, but have you seen much of Hamish Hartlett?


Needs to work on his kicking, but has the goods ... Will be a very good long term player, as will Mackay.


His kicking along with his ability to read the play, are his strengths. He would have the best kick (bar rich) that was picked up in the draft last year. This kids kicking is elite already IMO.
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby NFC » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:15 am

^ Disagree. I agree he has a good kick, and he produces some rippers, but man for a guy who possesses the skills he has he's regularly kicked absolute shockers this year.
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Re: Adelaide vs West Coast

Postby Booney » Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:53 am

FD, where are you? :lol:
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