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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:07 pm

And won 1 more game than Gold Coast.
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby Jim05 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:24 pm

sapaul wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Is it.


To lead a top 8 side by 6 goals at half time, to push Collingwood for 3 quarters and beat Sydney last start....work it out. :roll:

And yet still lose to Port and get humiliated by Brisbane at home, Outstanding
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby sapaul » Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:32 pm

The comment from Reddeer was about having talent, not being a great side. :roll:
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:35 pm

Reddeer wrote:Why are we so good for one half and go to water under the pressure of a challenge.
Are they trained as sprinters and not as stayers.
Trained as thoroughbreds and not as mallee bulls.
The talent is there.


Nah .. just trained by Neil Craig. As a supporter of another club, they can keep Craig as coach for as long as they like, because he is clearly not the man to be leading this group. He is not inspiring them to play winning footy, and I cannot understand how a board of an AFL club can just leave it up to a coach to decide when he wants to give it away. Couldn't imagine Collingwood doing that. They're about to replace Malthouse who may coach them to back-to-back flags. Craig's had his day, time for a new voice to be heard around the club.
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby Gingernuts » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:04 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Reddeer wrote:Why are we so good for one half and go to water under the pressure of a challenge.
Are they trained as sprinters and not as stayers.
Trained as thoroughbreds and not as mallee bulls.
The talent is there.


Nah .. just trained by Neil Craig. As a supporter of another club, they can keep Craig as coach for as long as they like, because he is clearly not the man to be leading this group. He is not inspiring them to play winning footy, and I cannot understand how a board of an AFL club can just leave it up to a coach to decide when he wants to give it away. Couldn't imagine Collingwood doing that. They're about to replace Malthouse who may coach them to back-to-back flags. Craig's had his day, time for a new voice to be heard around the club.


Perhaps. I believe it's just a simple matter of minimal experience. The majority have not been in the system long enough to be 'mallee bulls', nor do they have the composure cope with serious pressure at this stage. It will come.

One thing is for sure - putting a rookie coach in charge of a rookie team is a recipe for disaster. Unless a coach in the vein of Malthouse or perhaps Clarkson is available, then personally I would stick with Craig for another season at least.
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby Sky Pilot » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:41 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Gingernuts wrote:Yes, you should've. However you fell over the line against a team who has won only 4 games for the year. Grounds for concern IMO.

We won at a ground we have been pathetic at for years, not concerned at all. Would have won by 10 goal if it was at ethihad. Glad we finally won at that crap hole

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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby Gingernuts » Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:46 pm

Sky Pilot wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Gingernuts wrote:Yes, you should've. However you fell over the line against a team who has won only 4 games for the year. Grounds for concern IMO.

We won at a ground we have been pathetic at for years, not concerned at all. Would have won by 10 goal if it was at ethihad. Glad we finally won at that crap hole

Good post Jim ;)


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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby Voice » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:26 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Reddeer wrote:Why are we so good for one half and go to water under the pressure of a challenge.
Are they trained as sprinters and not as stayers.
Trained as thoroughbreds and not as mallee bulls.
The talent is there.


Nah .. just trained by Neil Craig. As a supporter of another club, they can keep Craig as coach for as long as they like, because he is clearly not the man to be leading this group. He is not inspiring them to play winning footy, and I cannot understand how a board of an AFL club can just leave it up to a coach to decide when he wants to give it away. Couldn't imagine Collingwood doing that. They're about to replace Malthouse who may coach them to back-to-back flags. Craig's had his day, time for a new voice to be heard around the club.

I'm not interested in the job either though ;) :lol:
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:53 am

sapaul wrote:The comment from Reddeer was about having talent, not being a great side. :roll:


Is there any talent there? I don't think so.
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby sapaul » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:59 am

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Is there any talent there? I don't think so.


Do you practice at being a dipshit or does it come naturally?
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby Gingernuts » Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:11 am

sapaul wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Is there any talent there? I don't think so.


Do you practice at being a dipshit or does it come naturally?


Dunno, definitely some talent there though. ;)
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:05 am

If there is ANY talent, it's pretty thin.
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby stan » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:21 am

sapaul wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Is there any talent there? I don't think so.


Do you practice at being a dipshit or does it come naturally?


Paul, the TSG is simply making comments on what he has seen. Don't get so defensive just because one of your beloved SA teams are going to bring home the spoon. And if thats why your upset, its not big deal, its just a position on the ladder. So relax a bit.
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby Media Park » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:56 am

sapaul wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Is there any talent there? I don't think so.


Do you practice at being a dipshit or does it come naturally?


You're one of those Crows supporters who should stick to the protected species forum bro.
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby MW » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:03 am

There is talent just no direction when pressure is applied...and it does not help when one of the main offenders is the captain. We are suffering just like the Aussie cricket side did when they lost Chappell, Marsh and Lillee in one go. There is going to be a few seasons of pain until some of these 20-30 game players get more experience, regardless of the coach.
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby Sojourner » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:03 pm

Gingernuts wrote:One thing is for sure - putting a rookie coach in charge of a rookie team is a recipe for disaster. Unless a coach in the vein of Malthouse or perhaps Clarkson is available, then personally I would stick with Craig for another season at least.


Totally agree with you there, South Adelaide picked a favourite son in Clay Sampson to be the Rookie Coach of a group of kids and not just the team and its supporters but the coach also ended up getting burnt badly out of it. Clay appeared to very much tick all the right boxes but that is how it went down when it mattered. South re-gather and appoint Ron Fuller, a coach that can show the runs on the board in terms of actually winning the ones that count. Its still very early days yet, but its obvious that Ronny has done some good things and South, especially in terms of junior development and identifying players to play in different positions and bringing out other areas of their game.

I think the Crows need such a man to run the club, Paul Roos, Mick Malthouse, Alistair Clarkson can all show that they have improved their lists from a list similar to the Crows and got the chocolates to go with it.

Despite not having won the Grand Final, Rodney Eade is another good candidate that can show that he has rebuilt sides and taken them to the Preliminary and the Granny. Rumour has it that he may not be under contract for 2012. He would definitely be worth an interview to hear his thoughts on what he thinks he could do with the Crows list.
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby Psyber » Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:30 pm

Reddeer wrote:Why are we so good for one half and go to water under the pressure of a challenge.
Are they trained as sprinters and not as stayers.
Trained as thoroughbreds and not as mallee bulls.
The talent is there.
I think that is the core issue.
That and the fact that the game plan that depends entirely on being fitter than the opposition worked some years ago when it was new, but doesn't now that the opposition have upped their fitness standards too - with more focus on staying power perhaps.
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby stan » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:46 pm

Psyber wrote:
Reddeer wrote:Why are we so good for one half and go to water under the pressure of a challenge.
Are they trained as sprinters and not as stayers.
Trained as thoroughbreds and not as mallee bulls.
The talent is there.
I think that is the core issue.
That and the fact that the game plan that depends entirely on being fitter than the opposition worked some years ago when it was new, but doesn't now that the opposition have upped their fitness standards too - with more focus on staying power perhaps.


Sloane looks like he will be a good player. Goes hard, but wins the ball. Dangerfield needs to relax a bit and just get the ball. Jacobs is going to be a good ruckman, gets plenty of hit outs. Ottens will only get better after coming back from a knee.

I think they should replace the coach next season, they have a good crop of players but definitly need something fresh. Christ get malthouse or roos for next season and some of those young kids will blossom.
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby redden whites » Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:25 pm

redden whites wrote:Absolute leaderless rabble.

BUMP :lol:
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Re: Adelaide Season 2011

Postby stan » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:03 am

Jacobs again last night was pretty good considering. Its really strange, they have a decent key forward, great young ruckman, some decent on ballers as well as a mature key defender and still they seem to serve are dribble. I dont believe it is all the players, sure there are some young kids floating about, but seriously the list is not that bad.
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