Adelaide Season 2011

[Gingernuts]

Was some pretty decent performances from younger players that would provide a little consolation for Crows fans .. Petrenko, Sloane, Wright, Otten and Talia all showed a fair bit at different times - Jacobs was a monster in the ruck at times too.

Thompson wins plenty of the ball but makes a bad blue by foot 1 in 5, and the free kick he gave away off the ball late in the game was just stupid and should never happen, especially from a leader.

Van Berlo, Reilly, Doughty, Symes .. The day these blokes are replaced by better performers will be the day the Crows can start looking up.

Last night was a good example also, of how handball when executed properly can cut through the lines (both teams showed it), but also how damaging it can be one when link of the chain coughs it up under pressure.

Good post JK, one of the few that's not rubbish on here.

Johncock & Jaensch play out the game = Adelaide win comfortably. Johncock in particular was giving Davey an absolute bath until he corked his butt. We only have a few key experienced players at the moment - when one of them goes down the whole team's composure takes a massive hit.

I was as ropeable as anyone when the final siren blew. However, now I've slept on it I have a better perspective of the game. There were plenty of positives in the game last night, namely young fellas who are beginning to find their feet.

We are a talented (and yes, even exciting) young team who lack experience (ie composure under pressure), and the tanks required to run out a high intensity AFL game. At the moment it's our turn to bend over and take it up the date from opposition teams and supporters, but this game is manufactured to be cyclical and I'm confident we'll be back in the top half returning the favour again sooner rather than later.

[Dutchy]

Mckernan wont be a crow in 2012

[Gingernuts]

Seriously, like vultures around a dead carcass.

[JK]

I agree Ginger that without losing the players and rotations I think the Crows might have won .. But regardless they more than had their chances and should not have lost it anyway.

A lot of the Crows players looked noticeably nervy each time the Bombers got up a head of steam.

No disrespect to the Bombers or their fans, but they are a middle of the road team (good prospects moving forward of course) but they played with a lot more belief than Adelaide I think.

[redden whites]

Absolute leaderless rabble.

[Courtney Fish]

Was some pretty decent performances from younger players that would provide a little consolation for Crows fans .. Petrenko, Sloane, Wright, Otten and Talia all showed a fair bit at different times - Jacobs was a monster in the ruck at times too.

Thompson wins plenty of the ball but makes a bad blue by foot 1 in 5, and the free kick he gave away off the ball late in the game was just stupid and should never happen, especially from a leader.

Van Berlo, Reilly, Doughty, Symes .. The day these blokes are replaced by better performers will be the day the Crows can start looking up.

Last night was a good example also, of how handball when executed properly can cut through the lines (both teams showed it), but also how damaging it can be one when link of the chain coughs it up under pressure.

Good post JK, one of the few that's not rubbish on here.

Johncock & Jaensch play out the game = Adelaide win comfortably. Johncock in particular was giving Davey an absolute bath until he corked his butt. We only have a few key experienced players at the moment - when one of them goes down the whole team's composure takes a massive hit.

I was as ropeable as anyone when the final siren blew. However, now I've slept on it I have a better perspective of the game. There were plenty of positives in the game last night, namely young fellas who are beginning to find their feet.

We are a talented (and yes, even exciting) young team who lack experience (ie composure under pressure), and the tanks required to run out a high intensity AFL game. At the moment it's our turn to bend over and take it up the date from opposition teams and supporters, but this game is manufactured to be cyclical and I'm confident we'll be back in the top half returning the favour again sooner rather than later.



They tightened up on Stiffy in the 2nd quarter he wasnt doing much when he got injured.BOG in the first though.Essendon should have hit the lead earlier but missed a few gettable goals.

[Jim05]

Although Johncocks loss hurt the crows to say they would have won with him is drawing a long bow IMO. Our forward structure was diabolical in first qtr, we emptied out our forward 50 and stacked our defence which often meant that 2 crows players didnt have opponents and every time we won the ball in the middle we would look up and have nothing to kick to. I would think most of Johncocks stats came when he didnt have an opponent and floated around the back half, was very surprised we still didnt get to him when he went forward to kick his goals. Probably being down by so much at 1/4 time forced Hirdys hand and as soon as we changed our style and had targets in the forward line we looked a lot better

[stan]

Mckernan wont be a crow in 2012

Traded or not good enough. I have only seen him a few times and reckon he goes alright.

[Jim05]

Mckernan wont be a crow in 2012

Traded or not good enough. I have only seen him a few times and reckon he goes alright.

Same. Has more talent and heart in his big toe than sellar and moran combined

[Sky Pilot]

Although Johncocks loss hurt the crows to say they would have won with him is drawing a long bow IMO. Our forward structure was diabolical in first qtr, we emptied out our forward 50 and stacked our defence which often meant that 2 crows players didnt have opponents and every time we won the ball in the middle we would look up and have nothing to kick to. I would think most of Johncocks stats came when he didnt have an opponent and floated around the back half, was very surprised we still didnt get to him when he went forward to kick his goals. Probably being down by so much at 1/4 time forced Hirdys hand and as soon as we changed our style and had targets in the forward line we looked a lot better

Good post Jim

[Gingernuts]

Although Johncocks loss hurt the crows to say they would have won with him is drawing a long bow IMO. Our forward structure was diabolical in first qtr, we emptied out our forward 50 and stacked our defence which often meant that 2 crows players didnt have opponents and every time we won the ball in the middle we would look up and have nothing to kick to. I would think most of Johncocks stats came when he didnt have an opponent and floated around the back half, was very surprised we still didnt get to him when he went forward to kick his goals. Probably being down by so much at 1/4 time forced Hirdys hand and as soon as we changed our style and had targets in the forward line we looked a lot better

Good post Jim

BS. Johncock was still dominating until he went off. When he left the field we had no one with the leg speed to keep up with Essendon's small forwards (Davies, Monfries etc). The pressure in our defensive 50 increased dramatically without Stiffy mopping up down there, and the Bombers were back in it. I repeat, we would've won with Johncock on for 4 quarters.

Anyway, talking in what if's is a pointless exercise. You won, we lost, and you can take your 4 points and analyse the game as you please. However personally if I was a Bomber fan I would be worried by last nights performance.

[Sky Pilot]

Although Johncocks loss hurt the crows to say they would have won with him is drawing a long bow IMO. Our forward structure was diabolical in first qtr, we emptied out our forward 50 and stacked our defence which often meant that 2 crows players didnt have opponents and every time we won the ball in the middle we would look up and have nothing to kick to. I would think most of Johncocks stats came when he didnt have an opponent and floated around the back half, was very surprised we still didnt get to him when he went forward to kick his goals. Probably being down by so much at 1/4 time forced Hirdys hand and as soon as we changed our style and had targets in the forward line we looked a lot better

Good post Jim

BS. Johncock was still dominating until he went off. When he left the field we had no one with the leg speed to keep up with Essendon's small forwards (Davies, Monfries etc). The pressure in our defensive 50 increased dramatically without Stiffy mopping up down there, and the Bombers were back in it. I repeat, we would've won with Johncock on for 4 quarters.

Anyway, talking in what if's is a pointless exercise. You won, we lost, and you can take your 4 points and analyse the game as you please. However personally if I was a Bomber fan I would be worried by last nights performance.

yeah correct weight. We should have won by six or seven goals

[Gingernuts]

Yes, you should've. However you fell over the line against a team who has won only 4 games for the year. Grounds for concern IMO.

[Dutchy]

Mckernan wont be a crow in 2012

Traded or not good enough. I have only seen him a few times and reckon he goes alright.

Out of contract, good enough for AFL....work it out

[NO-MERCY]

I agree Ginger that without losing the players and rotations I think the Crows might have won .. But regardless they more than had their chances and should not have lost it anyway.

A lot of the Crows players looked noticeably nervy each time the Bombers got up a head of steam.

No disrespect to the Bombers or their fans, but they are a middle of the road team (good prospects moving forward of course) but they played with a lot more belief than Adelaide I think.

Crows were more desperate in the first half & Essendon were the more desperate team in the second half full stop, they just happened to use the ball far better than the Crows did in that time.
The Crows can't sustain the intensity required ( like 1st half ) for a full game, if they could they'd be in the 8.
The Crows skill level falls away dramatically when the opposition don't let up on their fierce attack on the ball & the body as shown with the increased turnovers the Crows had in the second half.

Mckernan wont be a crow in 2012

I think the same with Dangerfield.

[Jim05]

Yes, you should've. However you fell over the line against a team who has won only 4 games for the year. Grounds for concern IMO.

We won at a ground we have been pathetic at for years, not concerned at all. Would have won by 10 goal if it was at ethihad. Glad we finally won at that crap hole

[Reddeer]

Why are we so good for one half and go to water under the pressure of a challenge.
Are they trained as sprinters and not as stayers.
Trained as thoroughbreds and not as mallee bulls.
The talent is there.

[Mad Mat]

Was some pretty decent performances from younger players that would provide a little consolation for Crows fans .. Petrenko, Sloane, Wright, Otten and Talia all showed a fair bit at different times - Jacobs was a monster in the ruck at times too.

Thompson wins plenty of the ball but makes a bad blue by foot 1 in 5, and the free kick he gave away off the ball late in the game was just stupid and should never happen, especially from a leader.

Van Berlo, Reilly, Doughty, Symes .. The day these blokes are replaced by better performers will be the day the Crows can start looking up.

Last night was a good example also, of how handball when executed properly can cut through the lines (both teams showed it), but also how damaging it can be one when link of the chain coughs it up under pressure.

Good post JK, one of the few that's not rubbish on here.

Johncock & Jaensch play out the game = Adelaide win comfortably. Johncock in particular was giving Davey an absolute bath until he corked his butt. We only have a few key experienced players at the moment - when one of them goes down the whole team's composure takes a massive hit.

I was as ropeable as anyone when the final siren blew. However, now I've slept on it I have a better perspective of the game. There were plenty of positives in the game last night, namely young fellas who are beginning to find their feet.

We are a talented (and yes, even exciting) young team who lack experience (ie composure under pressure), and the tanks required to run out a high intensity AFL game. At the moment it's our turn to bend over and take it up the date from opposition teams and supporters, but this game is manufactured to be cyclical and I'm confident we'll be back in the top half returning the favour again sooner rather than later.



They tightened up on Stiffy in the 2nd quarter he wasnt doing much when he got injured.BOG in the first though.Essendon should have hit the lead earlier but missed a few gettable goals.

Errr, Johncock left the field 4 minutes into the 2nd qtr. He hardly had time to do anything in the 2nd qtr.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Why are we so good for one half and go to water under the pressure of a challenge.
Are they trained as sprinters and not as stayers.
Trained as thoroughbreds and not as mallee bulls.
The talent is there.

Is it.

[sapaul]

Is it.

To lead a top 8 side by 6 goals at half time, to push Collingwood for 3 quarters and beat Sydney last start....work it out.