Will the Adelaide Oval Redevelopment go ahead?

[heater31]

Of course it is, the arguing parties are talking about different things because one party took a lot of posts to get to his point. And his point is moot at this stage because membership costs have yet to be released.

Excellent post. Based on the figures quoted in the members survey a few months back I'm not at all impressed with what is offered I want more details before deciding if me and my fellow members will be better off.

Also my other sticking point why should Football get it for 7 months of the year. That leaves cricket in the lurch for early season/late season home games. Pretty sure the MCG switches to cricket mode on Oct 1 and back to footy on April 1 officially...

[Hondo]

The first AFL game at the MCG is Thurs 24 March

I don't know when footy hands it over but I presume it is after 8 or so October in case there is a GF replay.

Add a week either side of those dates and it seems like the same sharing agreement the SACA and SANFL have agreed to.

[Wedgie]

Personally a city stadium is one election away not 10 years.

Wasting $500 mill on poorly thought out stop gap measure will only put the second city stadium a further 20 years away.

Spot on. Exactly why if the SACA members vote in favour it will send the state backwards.
There's no hope for a decent Adelaide Oval stadium but if it goes ahead there's no hope for any decent stadium at any time in my lifetime or probably my kids.

Hopefully it falls over and I spend my retirement years at a great stadium watching footy that isn't the Adelaide Oval but is close to town. Otherwise I'll be watching it on TV.

[dedja]

Personally a city stadium is one election away not 10 years.

Wasting $500 mill on poorly thought out stop gap measure will only put the second city stadium a further 20 years away.

Spot on. Exactly why if the SACA members vote in favour it will send the state backwards.
There's no hope for a decent Adelaide Oval stadium but if it goes ahead there's no hope for any decent stadium at any time in my lifetime or probably my kids.

Hopefully it falls over and I spend my retirement years at a great stadium watching footy that isn't the Adelaide Oval but is close to town. Otherwise I'll be watching it on TV.

You Lib mates have jumped off the bandwagon for a new city stadium... not a priority since MHS got the bullet. Plus, they'll have to bulldoze a brand new hospital to find a place for it.

[Wedgie]

Personally a city stadium is one election away not 10 years.

Wasting $500 mill on poorly thought out stop gap measure will only put the second city stadium a further 20 years away.

Spot on. Exactly why if the SACA members vote in favour it will send the state backwards.
There's no hope for a decent Adelaide Oval stadium but if it goes ahead there's no hope for any decent stadium at any time in my lifetime or probably my kids.

Hopefully it falls over and I spend my retirement years at a great stadium watching footy that isn't the Adelaide Oval but is close to town. Otherwise I'll be watching it on TV.

You Lib mates have jumped off the bandwagon for a new city stadium... not a priority since MHS got the bullet. Plus, they'll have to bulldoze a brand new hospital to find a place for it.

Not my mates, but I agree its not a priority, but if Adelaide Oval happens it will be NO chance of happening. South Australia can't afford to let that happen.

[fish]

Plus, they'll have to bulldoze a brand new hospital to find a place for it.

...or bulldoze an old hospital, soon to become obsolete.

[dedja]

Whilst a new stadium would be great, I can't see the justification for it ... we rarely get 40K to Footy Park now, crowds aren't just going to magically appear on an ongoing basis.

I really believe Adelaide Oval is now where it should be at with no further major redevelopment for the time being.

Port would be better off going there now but the SANFL will never let it happen without taking the place over.

A multi purpose stadium to cater for other sports as well would make more sense, but who is going pull $1Billion out of their arse to pay for it?

[fish]

Whilst a new stadium would be great, I can't see the justification for it ... we rarely get 40K to Footy Park now, crowds aren't just going to magically appear on an ongoing basis.

I really believe Adelaide Oval is now where it should be at with no further major redevelopment for the time being.

Port would be better off going there now but the SANFL will never let it happen without taking the place over.

A multi purpose stadium to cater for other sports as well would make more sense, but who is going pull $1Billion out of their arse to pay for it?

Agreed - like it or not we are not Melbourne.

[Hondo]

Wedgie, why can't the redevelopment at the AO be as good as or better than the MCG or the SCG?

Or is it more the issue that the new Stadium would be set back? The new RAH sets it back anyway IMO. It was an either or at the election (new RAH / redev AO, new stadium / redev RAH) and now one side of the equation is almost locked in negating the other side.

So it's not going to happen at the next election. The other problem is that the Libs I don't believe had talked about it with the SACA and so there's the problem of justifying the cost if it's only used for footy unless you move cricket, which won't happen.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Personally a city stadium is one election away not 10 years.

Wasting $500 mill on poorly thought out stop gap measure will only put the second city stadium a further 20 years away.

Spot on. Exactly why if the SACA members vote in favour it will send the state backwards.
There's no hope for a decent Adelaide Oval stadium but if it goes ahead there's no hope for any decent stadium at any time in my lifetime or probably my kids.

Hopefully it falls over and I spend my retirement years at a great stadium watching footy that isn't the Adelaide Oval but is close to town. Otherwise I'll be watching it on TV.

This is South Australia we are talking about. If Adelaide Oval development doesn't go ahead, no government will build a new stadium in the city. I'm only speculating but so are you two, and history is on my side.

[whufc]

Slightly off topic

BUT

how many times did Adelaide Oval and AAMI Stadium sell out in 2010.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Very much on topic whufc. Can't believe people want 2 stadiums that are only used for 6 months a year each. Even then rarely sold out. One decent, user friendly stadium will do. An Adelaide Oval redeveloped, along with the stretch between the city and oval would be fantastic. Unfortunately, people let their political beliefs and personal experiences cloud their judgement.

[Dutchy]

Don't know when they get dropped in (do you?) but they seem to work OK at the G

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/ade ... 6016512503

First Shield game this year was 8th Oct, Shield final goes to 21st March. There is 5 months, without allowing for preparation of the oval for cricket.

So how does footy get 7 months???? NAB Cup games arent played at MCG, SCG or Gabba - are they trying to get preseason games at the oval and chuck the Shield final to a minor venue?

A fair question I would have thought for cricket fans, esp ones that have no interest in footy and have a vote...

[The Sleeping Giant]

Well you yourself have said NAB cup games mean nothing. So why do you care where they get played? Don't think there will be a pre season cup once 18 sides are in the comp. Do any other major sports have a pre season comp around the world?

Drop in pitches are fine, and can be prepared in a controlled environment. Not sure what the problem is?

[Jim05]

Don't know when they get dropped in (do you?) but they seem to work OK at the G

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/ade ... 6016512503

First Shield game this year was 8th Oct, Shield final goes to 21st March. There is 5 months, without allowing for preparation of the oval for cricket.

So how does footy get 7 months???? NAB Cup games arent played at MCG, SCG or Gabba - are they trying to get preseason games at the oval and chuck the Shield final to a minor venue?

A fair question I would have thought for cricket fans, esp ones that have no interest in footy and have a vote...

I Have two main points i want answered. They are still keeping AAMI arent they? Surely they can play NAB cup games there.Football must not be allowed to have AO before the end of the shield final, if this is guaranteed im sure you will get more votes. My second point is that there must be a long term contract drawn up to ensure that football will not move again if they get a better deal. Who knows what will happen in 20 years time and I dont want them packing up and moving. If I get positive answers to these points then I would be more than happy to vote YES.

[Jim05]

Well you yourself have said NAB cup games mean nothing. So why do you care where they get played? Don't think there will be a pre season cup once 18 sides are in the comp. Do any other major sports have a pre season comp around the world?

Drop in pitches are fine, and can be prepared in a controlled environment. Not sure what the problem is?

Dont think so either, but i believe they will go to 24 or 26 rounds which would mean starting the season a couple of weeks earlier or going a couple of weeks later. For obvious reasons this cant happen

[Dutchy]

Well you yourself have said NAB cup games mean nothing. So why do you care where they get played?

I care if they are going to be played at AO and booting cricket off. We dont have these answers but we do know that under the agreement footy get the oval for 7 months, Im asking, which no one can answer what period does that 7 months cover?

[Hondo]

First Shield game this year was 8th Oct, Shield final goes to 21st March. There is 5 months, without allowing for preparation of the oval for cricket.

So how does footy get 7 months???? NAB Cup games arent played at MCG, SCG or Gabba - are they trying to get preseason games at the oval and chuck the Shield final to a minor venue?

A fair question I would have thought for cricket fans, esp ones that have no interest in footy and have a vote...

I'd assume like the G must be, SA would be programmed away from the AO for the first week of the Shield? I am only guessing as the AFL need the 1st week of Oct in case there is a GF replay. The AFL start this year at the G on the 24th March. So I don't have the answers other than if they can work it at the G they can work it here I assume?

As Jim said I assume NAB Cup will be played at AAMI as could the SANFL GF meaning that AFL commitments start 24 March and end 24 Sep with a couple of weeks to prepare the ground for footy.

The Shield final is tight I agree. Can you let us know once you know?

[AFLflyer]

Very much on topic whufc. Can't believe people want 2 stadiums that are only used for 6 months a year each. Even then rarely sold out. One decent, user friendly stadium will do. An Adelaide Oval redeveloped, along with the stretch between the city and oval would be fantastic. Unfortunately, people let their political beliefs and personal experiences cloud their judgement.

yep, correct!!! Wedgie, from what i read this is you. Question for you Wedgie. why do you actually care if you dont go to any games in this state?
it seems your motivation for this to fail, is highly based on your political preferences?? Or to stir the pot?

[Dutchy]

First Shield game this year was 8th Oct, Shield final goes to 21st March. There is 5 months, without allowing for preparation of the oval for cricket.

So how does footy get 7 months???? NAB Cup games arent played at MCG, SCG or Gabba - are they trying to get preseason games at the oval and chuck the Shield final to a minor venue?

A fair question I would have thought for cricket fans, esp ones that have no interest in footy and have a vote...

I'd assume like the G must be, SA would be programmed away from the AO for the first week of the Shield? I am only guessing as the AFL need the 1st week of Oct in case there is a GF replay. The AFL start this year at the G on the 24th March. So I don't have the answers other than if they can work it at the G they can work it here I assume?

As Jim said I assume NAB Cup will be played at AAMI as could the SANFL GF meaning that AFL commitments start 24 March and end 24 Sep with a couple of weeks to prepare the ground for footy.

The Shield final is tight I agree. Can you let us know once you know?

SANFL Grand Final at a 15k stadium? Wow, I dont predict the comp to drop away that much, but maybe the conspiracy theorists are right...