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Re: Finals Week 1 Live Scores & Discussion

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:32 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Q. wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Spargo wrote:ess, carl and port supporters having a crack - laughable after having week off already.

So what exactly do you get for finishing 3 spots higher?
We have copped beltings in our last 2 elimination finals and I would rather not have made them than be embarassed like we were.


Finals experience. Roos may have been belted, but at least they got a finals game into all of the young lads who got a taste of the intensity.

We lost by 90pts in 2009 and 70pts last year, didnt do us any good.
Im not a great believer in the whole finals experience thing, look at Fremantle. Id think not many of there players had too much finals experience yet they beat Geelong who are loaded with Premiership winning experience.


The coach has finals experience.
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Re: Finals Week 1 Live Scores & Discussion

Postby Q. » Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:35 pm

As a coach, you'd still want your players experiencing finals combat rather than not.

I'm not saying it's the only difference in winning a final, just that it's absurd to suggest that it's better to have players not play finals if the team is a rank outsider.
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Re: Finals Week 1 Live Scores & Discussion

Postby Q. » Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:37 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Jim05 wrote:We lost by 90pts in 2009 and 70pts last year, didnt do us any good.
Im not a great believer in the whole finals experience thing, look at Fremantle. Id think not many of there players had too much finals experience yet they beat Geelong who are loaded with Premiership winning experience.


The coach has finals experience.


This. Ross Lyin may coach a terrible style of football, but he gets his teams to win finals.
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Re: Finals Week 1 Live Scores & Discussion

Postby woodublieve12 » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:55 pm

Q. wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Jim05 wrote:We lost by 90pts in 2009 and 70pts last year, didnt do us any good.
Im not a great believer in the whole finals experience thing, look at Fremantle. Id think not many of there players had too much finals experience yet they beat Geelong who are loaded with Premiership winning experience.


The coach has finals experience.


This. Ross Lyin may coach a terrible style of football, but he gets his teams to win finals.

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Re: Finals Week 1 Live Scores & Discussion

Postby Johno6 » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:57 pm

Spargo wrote:
Johno6 wrote:Easier up turbo. He's a bit sensitive ATM.

That would be "ease up" johno :lol: :lol:
Sensitive no, disappointed yes. And more than willing to cop it from supporters who knocked us off today or those still in the finals , good luck next week.



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Re: Finals Week 1 Live Scores & Discussion

Postby Footy Smart » Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:44 am

Rik E Boy wrote:
Jim05 wrote:17 clubs will be failures this year and we are 1 of them :(


Always disagreed with this concept. This assumes that all eighteen sides have the same chance of winning the premiership. For the Cats for example, we may have dudded it this September but we have given a lot of games to young players and we'll be hoping for more than three games out of Vardy, Menzel and Varcoe next year.

I reckon Carlton and Essendon certainly failed as the Bombers would have been expecting top eight and the Blues foolishly stated outright they were after top 4. If the Crows don't win this year I don't think they'd class this year as fail and Freo have done pretty well in Ross' first year in charge.

It's all subjective.

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Well said REB,

Success and failure is determined by alot of things and they are different to all clubs. As REB said, Hawthorn would consider not winning it from hear a failure (up and running side in form quality players all accross the ground), AFC (while i think we should atleast win 1 final - No talia on Pav will hurt us though) would consider this year a success no matter what happens next week (development of young players and winning games unlike last few years :lol: ), Bombers season was ruined by injuries so hard to call that a failure IMO due to the extent of players out, Carlton yep id consider it a fail.
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Finals Week 1 Live Scores & Discussion

Postby Turbo » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:24 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
Jim05 wrote:17 clubs will be failures this year and we are 1 of them :(


Always disagreed with this concept. This assumes that all eighteen sides have the same chance of winning the premiership. For the Cats for example, we may have dudded it this September but we have given a lot of games to young players and we'll be hoping for more than three games out of Vardy, Menzel and Varcoe next year.

I reckon Carlton and Essendon certainly failed as the Bombers would have been expecting top eight and the Blues foolishly stated outright they were after top 4. If the Crows don't win this year I don't think they'd class this year as fail and Freo have done pretty well in Ross' first year in charge.

It's all subjective.

regards,

REB


Well said REB,

Success and failure is determined by alot of things and they are different to all clubs. As REB said, Hawthorn would consider not winning it from hear a failure (up and running side in form quality players all accross the ground), AFC (while i think we should atleast win 1 final - No talia on Pav will hurt us though) would consider this year a success no matter what happens next week (development of young players and winning games unlike last few years :lol: ), Bombers season was ruined by injuries so hard to call that a failure IMO due to the extent of players out, Carlton yep id consider it a fail.


Disagree. Both teams a fail. Seasons both determined by injuries
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Re: Finals Week 1 Live Scores & Discussion

Postby Footy Smart » Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:29 pm

Turbo wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
Jim05 wrote:17 clubs will be failures this year and we are 1 of them :(


Always disagreed with this concept. This assumes that all eighteen sides have the same chance of winning the premiership. For the Cats for example, we may have dudded it this September but we have given a lot of games to young players and we'll be hoping for more than three games out of Vardy, Menzel and Varcoe next year.

I reckon Carlton and Essendon certainly failed as the Bombers would have been expecting top eight and the Blues foolishly stated outright they were after top 4. If the Crows don't win this year I don't think they'd class this year as fail and Freo have done pretty well in Ross' first year in charge.

It's all subjective.

regards,

REB


Well said REB,

Success and failure is determined by alot of things and they are different to all clubs. As REB said, Hawthorn would consider not winning it from hear a failure (up and running side in form quality players all accross the ground), AFC (while i think we should atleast win 1 final - No talia on Pav will hurt us though) would consider this year a success no matter what happens next week (development of young players and winning games unlike last few years :lol: ), Bombers season was ruined by injuries so hard to call that a failure IMO due to the extent of players out, Carlton yep id consider it a fail.


Disagree. Both teams a fail. Seasons both determined by injuries



I still thought you had a better side out there than wat the results showed
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