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Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:04 am
by Mr Beefy
No

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:05 am
by cennals05
Failed Creation wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Eddie Betts is overrated?

No.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:07 am
by Failed Creation
Phew, that's a relief.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:15 am
by Footy Smart
Failed Creation wrote:Phew, that's a relief.


everyone on here will now he's at AFC :roll: ;)

He is overrated, as many people in the media pump him up (as they do almost all players). I think he is a good player and very capable but definately not superstar.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:17 am
by Johno6
he can wear Darren jarmans shorts he wore in the slow down.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:36 am
by Spargo
No doubt a certain media flog will declare him Coleman, Brownlow & Norm Smith favourite for season 2014.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:38 am
by Failed Creation
Spargo wrote:No doubt a certain media flog will declare him Coleman, Brownlow & Norm Smith favourite for season 2014.


Take your pick. It's the Crowvertiser, after all.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:39 am
by Lightning McQueen
Jim05 wrote:
bays09 wrote:Why doesn't Mumford just stay at Sydney?

Buddy and Kurt have all the money, doesnt leave much for the rest. Would expect some more outs soon, Jed Lamb is another looking to leave and id expect White to go aswell


Probably go to the loins. He'll rack it up there.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:41 am
by Booney
Reported number of around $500-550k p.a for Betts from Adelaide, about $450-500k from North.

If Carlton aren't willing to match either offer for a player they know "inside and out"*.....Adelaide and North paying way overs.

Who, at Adelaide, would be on $500k+?

I'd think maybe only Dangerfield, Walker, Sloane, Douglas?

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:44 am
by Dissident
Adelaide have to pay some overs to get anyone of some quality over here IMO
With the average AFL salary to be $300k next year, paying $500k for a small forward who should/would get you 50 goals (they are hoping) is probably $50k over, but it's a need.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:50 am
by Booney
Interesting then that Porplyzia and Callinan (?) both get another year on the list?

They should enjoy playing against West and Centrals. :roll:

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:56 am
by Dissident
Both, definitely.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:01 pm
by Footy Smart
Dissident wrote:Adelaide have to pay some overs to get anyone of some quality over here IMO
With the average AFL salary to be $300k next year, paying $500k for a small forward who should/would get you 50 goals (they are hoping) is probably $50k over, but it's a need.



Agreed have to pay overs, but we have the money post Tippet, so no doubt front ended his contract so probably becomes a 350k a year player for the last 2 of the 4 year contract.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:03 pm
by Dogwatcher
Booney wrote:Interesting then that Porplyzia and Callinan (?) both get another year on the list?

They should enjoy playing against West and Centrals. :roll:


I was hoping Callinan would get delisted (in fact, I thought he would) so that he could play for us again.
However, I'm pretty certain there'd have been some sort of coaching position with the ressies side available for him had he been delisted.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:04 pm
by Dogwatcher
Failed Creation wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Eddie Betts is overrated?


Nope

However, small forwards have to do a lot more than most to be rated by people. I think we expect a lot more of them.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:04 pm
by MatteeG
As a Hawk, I dont want Pods. Longer would be a nice get, although Grimley and Lowden are both looking OK in Box Hill for more senior time next year.

Dale Thomas (Carlton arent over the line just yet) or Col Sylvia would be handy, and a 1-2 year deal for Chappy would be OK 8)

Particularly Chaoppy or Sylvia as they both tear us a new one frequently...pretty sure Chappy would pass playing for the Hawks though...

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:10 pm
by Footy Smart
Dogwatcher wrote:
Failed Creation wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Eddie Betts is overrated?


Nope

However, small forwards have to do a lot more than most to be rated by people. I think we expect a lot more of them.


Yep small FWDs who dont spend time in the midfield are either in the game or have no impact.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:18 pm
by hawks21
Booney wrote:Reported number of around $500-550k p.a for Betts from Adelaide, about $450-500k from North.

If Carlton aren't willing to match either offer for a player they know "inside and out"*.....Adelaide and North paying way overs.

Who, at Adelaide, would be on $500k+?

I'd think maybe only Dangerfield, Walker, Sloane, Douglas?

Regardless of what he is getting paid, he would be in most teams starting 22. Proven goal scorer who can kick 50+ goals a season. A win for the Crows in my eyes even if he is getting paid overs.

You would think Callinan's AFL career has come to end with this recruitment.

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:23 pm
by cripple
Think the real value with Betts will be when he plays alongside tex. Interesting to see Tim Watson agree with this pov but dermy discard it on SEN this morning. Very happy to get Betts and the leave the rest of the tippett money for danger, sloane and crouch later on

Re: 2013 - Player retirements/delistings/trade discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:27 pm
by nuggety goodness
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
bays09 wrote:Why doesn't Mumford just stay at Sydney?

Buddy and Kurt have all the money, doesnt leave much for the rest. Would expect some more outs soon, Jed Lamb is another looking to leave and id expect White to go aswell


Probably go to the loins. He'll rack it up there.


i doubt he'll get four quarters up there though...