by Booney » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:39 pm
bertiebeatle wrote:Impey dropped apparantley
by Booney » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:41 pm
by morell » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:04 pm
by Wedgie » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:10 pm
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by morell » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:24 pm
Booney wrote:And so does the coach.
Of an AFL club.
With years of experience in coaching.
His team sits 6th on the ladder after 21 rounds.
Most likely playing finals.
So, bertie and I weigh up who we have the most faith in to know what they're talking about, actually know what they're talking about.
Catching up indeed....
Booney wrote:bertiebeatle wrote:Impey dropped apparantley
Hoo. Ray. He's been kissed on it by a fairy the last month.
by amber_fluid » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:35 pm
by morell » Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:28 pm
by Booney » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:55 am
by Booney » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:56 am
by morell » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:24 am
Booney wrote:Saturday's side had 6 players with under 20 games experience, with Doooougal Howard the oldest of the 6 at 21 years and 4 months. 16 of the side are under 26. Been a very good year for blooding youth while also making our way back into the finals race.
by bertiebeatle » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:54 am
morell wrote:Booney wrote:Saturday's side had 6 players with under 20 games experience, with Doooougal Howard the oldest of the 6 at 21 years and 4 months. 16 of the side are under 26. Been a very good year for blooding youth while also making our way back into the finals race.
Far out Booney lad. The side that played Saturday should have been playing 8 weeks ago. The fact that it was one of our better performances of the year (Sydney being the other) vindicates everything that I (and just about every Port fan I know) have been saying - and disagreeing with you about eg - play at least a second *genuine* tall forward to free up Dixon and get Trengove out of the forward line.
The structure/spine of:
Dixon - Marshall (+ Westhoff) - Ryder - Howard - Clurey is just about right for smaller teams. It was perfect for the Bulldogs. Against Adelaide or GWS I would play one more - probably Hombsch.
Marshall didn't star. He didn't kick a goal, he dropped a mark and fluffed a couple of handballs, but just the fact that he had instinct on where to lead and how to creatively move the ball forward made such a monumental difference to our side. This is exactly what I have been hammering on about all ******* year. It's not his output, but what him leading up and making space did for Dixon, that was important.
All of a sudden those kicks that previously would've been turnovers because the second or third defender could chop off Dixon, were not being chopped off. All of a sudden Dixon clunked a couple that previously he wouldn't as the opposition would've been able to zone off. All of a sudden Dixon (and Marshall once or twice) made a contest where previously we would've been outnumbered or out-marked by a taller defender - that then brought Neade, SGray and Boak into the game as there were contests, rather than intercepts, in our forward line.
We're not a top 4 side, still have a lot of learning to do, but at least on Saturday there was some semblance of system and methodology when we moved the ball forward. It was a marked improvement.
by Booney » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:06 pm
bertiebeatle wrote:You do realise we played the same side as all year just Marshall instead of Trengove?
by The Bedge » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:08 pm
bertiebeatle wrote:You do realise we played the same side as all year just Marshall instead of Trengove?.
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by Booney » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:15 pm
Jim05 wrote:So 1 or 2 for Jonas?
by morell » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:20 pm
I do. And it made a noticeable difference because Marshall knew when, how and where to make space. Then once he did get it, he actually used a modicum of forward nous and used the ball effectively:bertiebeatle wrote:You do realise we played the same side as all year just Marshall instead of Trengove?
by bertiebeatle » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:38 pm
Zartan wrote:bertiebeatle wrote:You do realise we played the same side as all year just Marshall instead of Trengove?.
Don't recall Bonner, Marshall, Johnson, Houston, Howard playing all year?
by bertiebeatle » Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:39 pm
morell wrote:I do. And it made a noticeable difference because Marshall knew when, how and where to make space. Then once he did get it, he actually used a modicum of forward nous and used the ball effectively:bertiebeatle wrote:You do realise we played the same side as all year just Marshall instead of Trengove?
1. Lead up to the flank, took a mark, quickly centered it to Houston who kicked it to Gray.
2. Lead up to the wing, got involved, caused a spill, ball popped out to Boak, moved the ball forward to Polec
3. Led hard and caused a spill at half forward, created a spill for I think Wines
4. Led to the flank, took the mark, drew the player and kicked *under* him to Boak who then kicked it to Wingard
Nothing special, but they all resulted in goals (or shots). If Trengove had of played instead of Marshall, I doubt he would've done any of them - not through lack of effort, but he just doesn't think or move like a forward. Those were also just the obvious ones. It's difficult to measure the times Marshall led just for the sake of leading to get ignored, but dragged his opponent with him to allow for Dixon to compete in space behind him. Instead of ...
Dixon leading, taking the mark and kicking to ******* no-one, a hapless Trengove or a midget!
Trengove, when up there, did none of those things. Opposition teams knew it and zoned off and caused havoc for Dixon.
I do agree that I would like one more against the bigger sides, yes. Be it Trengove or Hombsch.
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