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Re: Possible Trades

Postby the big bang » Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:04 am

nuggety goodness wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=85726

just saw this on the AFL site, makes sense to me now regarding order of trades, i never knew how it worked but it is very simple really. i must be an ablosute retard!

ANYWAY..... just wondering how they intend to work it with GC17 coming in, what the order will be and how it will all work out. IIRC they will get 6 or 7 out of the first ten picks in the next PSD?!?



yeah, just off the top of my head ( i think there was a thread on here about awhile back?) they are getting something like picks 1,2,3,8,11,15,18. could be a bit off, but i rkon nit was something like that.
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby Pup » Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:22 pm

nuggety goodness wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=85726

just saw this on the AFL site, makes sense to me now regarding order of trades, i never knew how it worked but it is very simple really. i must be an ablosute retard!

ANYWAY..... just wondering how they intend to work it with GC17 coming in, what the order will be and how it will all work out. IIRC they will get 6 or 7 out of the first ten picks in the next PSD?!?


If you mean the next National Draft then they get 1,2,3,5,7,9,11,13,15 and then the first pick of each round.
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:03 pm

Sydney have offered Mumford 1 million over three years to replace Darren Jolly who is off to Collingwood.

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Re: Possible Trades

Postby Hondo » Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:17 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Sydney have offered Mumford 1 million over three years to replace Darren Jolly who is off to Collingwood.

regards,

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On Geelong, do you think a strategic trade of a gun to ease salary cap pressure would be better than this slow drain of good "depth" players?

Will the club end up with 20 x 30 year old guns + 20 x list fillers?

It's very tough keeping a gun side together these days and it seems that the clubs that try to do it too long suffer the consequences 5 years down the track.

I know Wojo's name is being floated around
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby Booney » Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:32 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Sydney have offered Mumford 1 million over three years to replace Darren Jolly who is off to Collingwood.

regards,

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Re: Possible Trades

Postby JK » Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:40 pm

hondo71 wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:Sydney have offered Mumford 1 million over three years to replace Darren Jolly who is off to Collingwood.

regards,

REB


On Geelong, do you think a strategic trade of a gun to ease salary cap pressure would be better than this slow drain of good "depth" players?

Will the club end up with 20 x 30 year old guns + 20 x list fillers?

It's very tough keeping a gun side together these days and it seems that the clubs that try to do it too long suffer the consequences 5 years down the track.

I know Wojo's name is being floated around


It's a good question you ask Hondo, would be interesting to see REB's take on it.

Brisbane have managed it relatively well, I think they knew there was going to be a downside with their age so they got as much as they could from their older stars whilst they could ... They haven't really fallen too far for too long, and now would consider themselves a genuine Top 4 contender for 2010
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby nuggety goodness » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:02 pm

hondo71 wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:Sydney have offered Mumford 1 million over three years to replace Darren Jolly who is off to Collingwood.

regards,

REB


On Geelong, do you think a strategic trade of a gun to ease salary cap pressure would be better than this slow drain of good "depth" players?

Will the club end up with 20 x 30 year old guns + 20 x list fillers?

It's very tough keeping a gun side together these days and it seems that the clubs that try to do it too long suffer the consequences 5 years down the track.

I know Wojo's name is being floated around


which of the 'guns' would you offer?!?

they have Scarlett, Mooney, Harley and Milburn over 30. then Ottens, Wojo, Ling, Enright Chapman and Rooke almost there. half a side in their sunset years...

Wojo and Rooke would be the two i'd think out of those names... would they give up a James Kelly or Shannon Byrnes (would they be on enough money to releive the cap?)
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby Dutchy » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:04 pm

Wojo to the Roos is the whisper, be suprised if we took him, he would be our second oldest player on the list
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby magpie in the 80's » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:05 pm

Trade winds: Thursday's rumour mill - AFL.com.au:

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Re: Possible Trades

Postby nuggety goodness » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:22 pm

bobster has said that a direct swap of Luke Ball and Andrejs Everitt has taken place leaving Collingwood out of the apparent three-way trade that would be taking place. if this is in fact the case 1) will Everitt get a game next year and 2) will the dogs keep Nathan Eagleton (31) on the list to make room or who will Ball (25) squeeze out of the side? our midfield of Boyd (27), Griffin (23) , Cooney (24), Cross (26), Higgins (21), Ward (19) and Picken (23) is pretty good and still very young...
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby silicone skyline » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:29 pm

nuggety goodness wrote:bobster has said that a direct swap of Luke Ball and Andrejs Everitt has taken place leaving Collingwood out of the apparent three-way trade that would be taking place. if this is in fact the case 1) will Everitt get a game next year and 2) will the dogs keep Nathan Eagleton (31) on the list to make room or who will Ball (25) squeeze out of the side? our midfield of Boyd (27), Griffin (23) , Cooney (24), Cross (26), Higgins (21), Ward (19) and Picken (23) is pretty good and still very young...


I like Eagleton. Think he has more to offer than Ball. I'd take his long raking left foot over Ball's anything.
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby nuggety goodness » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:45 pm

silicone skyline wrote:
nuggety goodness wrote:bobster has said that a direct swap of Luke Ball and Andrejs Everitt has taken place leaving Collingwood out of the apparent three-way trade that would be taking place. if this is in fact the case 1) will Everitt get a game next year and 2) will the dogs keep Nathan Eagleton (31) on the list to make room or who will Ball (25) squeeze out of the side? our midfield of Boyd (27), Griffin (23) , Cooney (24), Cross (26), Higgins (21), Ward (19) and Picken (23) is pretty good and still very young...


I like Eagleton. Think he has more to offer than Ball. I'd take his long raking left foot over Ball's anything.


i like him too don't get me wrong but do you reckon he has another year left in him? a good year? he'd have to perform at the same level as he did this year though which may be difficult... whereas Ball has 5-6 left in him...
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby The Lethal 1 » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:55 pm

What are the chances of Port Adelaide and Essendon doing a trade over Shaun Burgoyne? Shaun Burgoyne to Essendon in exhange for one of Essendon's two first round draft picks (#10 and #16) as well as Jay Nash as reported by Michelangelo Rucci in The Advertiser on Thursday, October 8, 2009.
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby magpie in the 80's » Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:10 pm

catchisthecry wrote:Just heard a rumour Crows to get Leon Davis for B. Reilly and a draft :shock: pick


ADELAIDE yesterday remained inactive as no club moved on Griffin.

But football operations chief John Reid was compelled to dismiss speculation the Crows would trade midfielder Brent Reilly and a draft pick for All-Australian forward Leon Davis from Collingwood.
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby catchisthecry » Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:18 pm

Craigy's been reading my posts!
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby carey » Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:27 pm

nuggety goodness wrote:
silicone skyline wrote:
nuggety goodness wrote:bobster has said that a direct swap of Luke Ball and Andrejs Everitt has taken place leaving Collingwood out of the apparent three-way trade that would be taking place. if this is in fact the case 1) will Everitt get a game next year and 2) will the dogs keep Nathan Eagleton (31) on the list to make room or who will Ball (25) squeeze out of the side? our midfield of Boyd (27), Griffin (23) , Cooney (24), Cross (26), Higgins (21), Ward (19) and Picken (23) is pretty good and still very young...


I like Eagleton. Think he has more to offer than Ball. I'd take his long raking left foot over Ball's anything.


i like him too don't get me wrong but do you reckon he has another year left in him? a good year? he'd have to perform at the same level as he did this year though which may be difficult... whereas Ball has 5-6 left in him...


and on a wet raining day ball would and should be 1st picked everyday of the week!
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby Pag » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:02 pm

On Channel 7 News, the rumour went like this:

Shaun Burgoyne (Port Adelaide) -------> Hawthorn
Mark Williams (Hawthorn) --------> Essendon
Pick 9 + 16/26 (Essendon) ---------> Port Adelaide.

Surely the Bombers could not be this stupid? Giving up two top 30 picks for Mark Williams?
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby Hondo » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:28 pm

Pag wrote:On Channel 7 News, the rumour went like this:

Shaun Burgoyne (Port Adelaide) -------> Hawthorn
Mark Williams (Hawthorn) --------> Essendon
Pick 9 + 16/26 (Essendon) ---------> Port Adelaide.

Surely the Bombers could not be this stupid? Giving up two top 30 picks for Mark Williams?


I heard it on 5AA as:

Williams to Essendon for pick 10
Hawthorn give picks 9 & 10 to port for Burgoyne
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby Interceptor » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:29 pm

The AFL web site has this:

Port, Hawks seal four-club Burgoyne deal


By Katrina Gill 7:38 PM Thu 08 October, 2009
PORT Adelaide onballer Shaun Burgoyne will join Hawthorn next season as part of a four-club trade.

Relations between the two clubs appeared strained on Wednesday after Hawks president Jeff Kennett stymied a potential deal involving defender Campbell Brown.

But on Thursday night, Power football operations manager Peter Rohde confirmed an agreement had been reached.

The four-way deal, involving Port Adelaide, Hawthorn, Essendon and one other club will see Burgoyne go to Hawthorn, Hawks forward Mark Williams move to Essendon and picks No.9 and 16 handed over to the Power.

This would give Port Adelaide three picks in the first round of November’s NAB AFL Draft.

Rohde said he was hopeful the paperwork would be lodged with the AFL on Thursday night.

“There are quite a number of other things tied into the deal but that (picks No.9 and 16 to Port Adelaide] is the basic scenario of it all,” Rohde told Adelaide radio station 5AA.

“We’re in the middle of a mediation, so I’m bound by confidentiality and can’t give any details until the paperwork is all finished.”


http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/85877/default.aspx
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Re: Possible Trades

Postby Pag » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:38 pm

So, Hawthorn are trading Mark Williams for Essendon's Pick 16, then sending that Pick 16, plus Pick 9, to Port for Burgoyne.

Big Loser = Hawthorn.
Big Winner = Port.

And Essendon essentially, with picking up Williams for that Pick 16, have given away Andrew Lovett to get Williams. I know Lovett wanted out, but they haven't fared to well with the whole situation either.
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