Port Adelaide 2017

[morell]

Sometimes the guards let me out.

I found it interesting that Port regularly play with teams below the average for the AFL in terms of height.

You don't find that interesting? I am sorry but I cant do a SWARM update for at least another week.

Not really, there's only one relevant table and that's the premiership table. If any of the 13 sides below Port play a side with above average height then the statistic is useless, it means nothing.

You're looking at it from a macro level, which is understandable, but if you do that, you have to consider other macro factors too - difficulty of the draw, injuries, form etc

I am saying look at it from a Port only perspective.

Of those performances, which ones did we perform well in and which ones do we perform poorly in?

As an idea, say a KPP is 195cm and a normal player is 185cm, playing one short is only worth about 10cm to the overall team - or one cell on the graph. So there were times throughout the year, GWS and Richmond, where we were playing -3 key position players compared to the average. How did we go in those games? Especially in key position specific metrics such as marks inside 50, contested marks and intercept marks ?

What would be good and I would do it if I had enough time would be to correlate the height of the opposition game v game as well.

Richmond are 3rd, 13 and 6, have lost 3 games by under 1 goal and play one KPP forward.

Adelaide are top, 14 and 4 with a draw and play 3 KPP forwards.

The most crucial stat being one is top one is third, not how tall they are.

Can I ask, no need to answer if you'd rather keep it private, what do you do for a living?

Again, you're looking at other teams. That's not relevant, it might work for Richmond playing short (I don't think it will, in the end) but it doesn't work for us.

I am an analyst - work in asset management in an engineering team for LG.

[morell]

That certainly explains all the free time he has.

I work very hard. Have to remember that although it might take a long time for *you*, this stuff is fundamentally very simple to people with the right skill set. That graph took me 5 minutes to do whilst a database script was running.

just like it would take me a whole day to, for example, hang a curtain, build a letterbox or sell ice to Egyptians - but others would find those tasks quick and easy.

[morell]

He's one up on a dole bludger, he's a bloody council worker!

Morell, Can you produce average height stat for rounds 1-20 for the 18 sides and then plot them against their possie on the premiership ladder to see if there is a trend?

Yes. But that would take time and I have to fix all these mistakes the damn engineers keep making

[amber_fluid]

That certainly explains all the free time he has.

I work very hard. Have to remember that although it might take a long time for *you*, this stuff is fundamentally very simple to people with the right skill set. That graph took me 5 minutes to do whilst a database script was running.

just like it would take me a whole day to, for example, hang a curtain, build a letterbox or sell ice to Egyptians - but others would find those tasks quick and easy.

Work smarter, not harder!

Now where's that graph I asked for since it's so simple for you?

[morell]

Now everyone wants a graph eh. Ha!

[MW]

He's one up on a dole bludger, he's a bloody council worker!

Morell, Can you produce average height stat for rounds 1-20 for the 18 sides and then plot them against their possie on the premiership ladder to see if there is a trend?

Yes. But that would take time and I have to fix all these mistakes the damn engineers keep making

Blaming Engineers...you must work in Quality

[morell]

He's one up on a dole bludger, he's a bloody council worker!

Morell, Can you produce average height stat for rounds 1-20 for the 18 sides and then plot them against their possie on the premiership ladder to see if there is a trend?

Yes. But that would take time and I have to fix all these mistakes the damn engineers keep making

Blaming Engineers...you must work in Quality

Kinda, asset management, so making sure what the engineers are doing is sustainable, viable and within budget.

It's often not.

[bertiebeatle]

]Again, you're looking at other teams. That's not relevant, it might work for Richmond playing short (I don't think it will, in the end) but it doesn't work for us.


Your opinion re height not whether it does or not. Hinkley admitted he took a punt going small against GWS with Ryder out. Didn't work out.

Against Richmond, why do we need to play extra talls for the sake of it? You want us to play extra talls because professional footballers find it easier to kick it on a players head rathar than out in front of them. Also it was wet that night wasn't it? Another reason why you don't need extra talls. See how we go Sunday with Howard in place of Trengove, see if we look a better side. It will be him or JT in the side from now on. We need the 2nd KPF to be the back up ruckman[/b]

[morell]

It's not my opinion at all - its quantifiable. Do you disagree that our best performances came when we had enough height and our worst came when we didn't?

He keeps taking the same punt, it it keeps not working out. That is the entire point!

Happy for the second KPF to be a back up ruck man.

[carey]

Bonner in about f**king time! Massive wrap for this kid, reads the play as good as any one going around, great decision maker and has elite foot skills can't wait to see the lad debut Sunday.

Hopefully they give him a decent run at it.

[amber_fluid]

Bonner in about f**king time! Massive wrap for this kid, reads the play as good as any one going around, great decision maker and has elite foot skills can't wait to see the lad debut Sunday.

Hopefully they give him a decent run at it.

Yeah he looks the goods at SANFL.
Be interesting to see how that translates at AFL level.

He's played a game already hasn't he?
Late last year?

[morell]

Yeah he played Vs Gold Coast in the last game of the year

[carey]

Bonner in about f**king time! Massive wrap for this kid, reads the play as good as any one going around, great decision maker and has elite foot skills can't wait to see the lad debut Sunday.

Hopefully they give him a decent run at it.

Yeah he looks the good at SANFL.
Be interesting to see how that translates at AFL level.

He's played a game already hasn't he?
Late last year?

I've lost the plot lol yes he did I reckon against the Gold Coast. I'm all excited he's back in lol.

[bennymacca]

Had a look at some of Ports stats

1st for inside 50s
3rd for marks inside 50
6th for tackles inside 50

Points to getting your hands on the ball and getting it into the forward line. And keeping it in there.

9th efficiency inside 50
15th goal accuracy
17th disposal efficiency

To me this says it's not a lack of targets in your forward 50, but how you deliver it to those targets. Plenty of marks inside 50, but would it be fair to say not a lot of them are deep entries 20m out and more are from wide areas which are hard to score from?

[morell]

Correct on all fronts Benjamin.

That data reeks to me that Dixon is doing an outstanding job, but needs a competent foil. And ball movement isn't mutually exclusive from forward structure. If you have another target that can spread the defense, that would naturally create more space and easier kicks.

Again, I am not saying Port are hopeless, quite the contrary, I think we'd be a very good side with just a few tweaks here and there.

[carey]

Correct on all fronts Benjamin.

That data reeks to me that Dixon is doing an outstanding job, but needs a competent foil. And ball movement isn't mutually exclusive from forward structure. If you have another target that can spread the defense, that would naturally create more space and easier kicks.

Again, I am not saying Port are hopeless, quite the contrary, I think we'd be a very good side with just a few tweaks here and there.

Must, I repeat must play a 2nd key forward for mine.

[morell]

That's it. We need a Holland to our Hanson.

[bennymacca]

How many elite kicks do port have forward of centre? Wingard?

The crows forward line works well in part because walker and lynch play the linking role and are both excellent kicks.

Who plays that similar role in ports team? It's been Trengove hasn't it?

[carey]

We're shit and it's been a month in the process Out bodied by Melbourne, Beat a hapless North, Fell across the line against the Saints, got bashed by our sister last week now this.

Thank f##k we're playing Collingwoods reserves or we'd be getting belted here as well.

#makingupthenumbers
#GWSCrowsSydneynooneelsecanwinit

[Corona Man]

We're shit and it's been a month in the process Out bodied by Melbourne, Beat a hapless North, Fell across the line against the Saints, got bashed by our sister last week now this.

Thank f##k we're playing Collingwoods reserves or we'd be getting belted here as well.

#makingupthenumbers
#GWSCrowsSydneynooneelsecanwinit

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